Topic: Ireland 'welcomed Hitler's henchmen'
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How many have the US killed?

Quite a few I would Imagine

1. China - 1945 to 1960s: Was Mao Tse-tung just paranoid?
2. Italy - 1947-1948: Free elections, Hollywood style
3. Greece - 1947 to early 1950s: From cradle of democracy to client state
4. The Philippines - 1940s and 1950s: America's oldest colony
5. Korea - 1945-1953: Was it all that it appeared to be?
6. Albania - 1949-1953: The proper English spy
7. Eastern Europe - 1948-1956: Operation Splinter Factor
8. Germany - 1950s: Everything from juvenile delinquency to terrorism
9. Iran - 1953: Making it safe for the King of Kings
10. Guatemala - 1953-1954: While the world watched
11. Costa Rica - Mid-1950s: Trying to topple an ally - Part 1
12. Syria - 1956-1957: Purchasing a new government
13. Middle East - 1957-1958: The Eisenhower Doctrine claims another backyard for America
14. Indonesia - 1957-1958: War and pornography
15. Western Europe - 1950s and 1960s: Fronts within fronts within fronts
16. British Guiana - 1953-1964: The CIA's international labor mafia
17. Soviet Union - Late 1940s to 1960s: From spy planes to book publishing
18. Italy - 1950s to 1970s: Supporting the Cardinal's orphans and techno-fascism
19. Vietnam - 1950-1973: The Hearts and Minds Circus
20. Cambodia - 1955-1973: Prince Sihanouk walks the high-wire of neutralism
21. Laos - 1957-1973: L'Armée Clandestine
22. Haiti - 1959-1963: The Marines land, again
23. Guatemala - 1960: One good coup deserves another
24. France/Algeria - 1960s: L'état, c'est la CIA
25. Ecuador - 1960-1963: A text book of dirty tricks
26. The Congo - 1960-1964: The assassination of Patrice Lumumba
27. Brazil - 1961-1964: Introducing the marvelous new world of death squads
28. Peru - 1960-1965: Fort Bragg moves to the jungle
29. Dominican Republic - 1960-1966: Saving democracy from communism by getting rid of democracy
30. Cuba - 1959 to 1980s: The unforgivable revolution
31. Indonesia - 1965: Liquidating President Sukarno … and 500,000 others
East Timor - 1975: And 200,000 more
32. Ghana - 1966: Kwame Nkrumah steps out of line
33. Uruguay - 1964-1970: Torture -- as American as apple pie
34. Chile - 1964-1973: A hammer and sickle stamped on your child's forehead
35. Greece - 1964-1974: "**** your Parliament and your Constitution," said
the President of the United States
36. Bolivia - 1964-1975: Tracking down Che Guevara in the land of coup d'etat
37. Guatemala - 1962 to 1980s: A less publicized "final solution"
38. Costa Rica - 1970-1971: Trying to topple an ally -- Part 2
39. Iraq - 1972-1975: Covert action should not be confused with missionary work
40. Australia - 1973-1975: Another free election bites the dust
41. Angola - 1975 to 1980s: The Great Powers Poker Game
42. Zaire - 1975-1978: Mobutu and the CIA, a marriage made in heaven
43. Jamaica - 1976-1980: Kissinger's ultimatum
44. Seychelles - 1979-1981: Yet another area of great strategic importance
45. Grenada - 1979-1984: Lying -- one of the few growth industries in Washington
46. Morocco - 1983: A video nasty
47. Suriname - 1982-1984: Once again, the Cuban bogeyman
48. Libya - 1981-1989: Ronald Reagan meets his match
49. Nicaragua - 1981-1990: Destabilization in slow motion
50. Panama - 1969-1991: Double-crossing our drug supplier
51. Bulgaria 1990/Albania 1991: Teaching communists what democracy is all about
52. Iraq - 1990-1991: Desert holocaust
53. Afghanistan - 1979-1992: America's Jihad
54. El Salvador - 1980-1994: Human rights, Washington style
55. Haiti - 1986-1994: Who will rid me of this turbulent priest?
56. The American Empire - 1992 to present



Where did you cut & paste this hyperbole from? It's priceless! laugh

he's probably had it for years.:laughing:


laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 06/23/12 01:48 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/23/12 01:49 PM
Instead of posting your ridiculous laughing heads, Why don't you pick one of the items on the list above and google it.

GUATEMALA 1962 to 1980s
A less publicized "final solution"


http://killinghope.org/bblum6/guat3.htm

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Sat 06/23/12 01:55 PM
If you flip over the rock of American foreign policy of the past century, this is what crawls out…

invasions … bombings … overthrowing governments …
occupations … suppressing movements for social change …
assassinating political leaders … perverting elections …
manipulating labor unions … manufacturing "news" …
economic and political sanctions ... death squads …
torture … biological warfare … depleted uranium …
drug trafficking … mercenaries …

It's not a pretty picture.
It is enough to give imperialism a bad name.

Read the full details in:

Killing Hope: US Military and CIA
Interventions Since World War II.

by William Blum

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Sat 06/23/12 02:02 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 06/23/12 02:03 PM

If you flip over the rock of American foreign policy of the past century, this is what crawls out…

invasions … bombings … overthrowing governments …
occupations … suppressing movements for social change …
assassinating political leaders … perverting elections …
manipulating labor unions … manufacturing "news" …
economic and political sanctions ... death squads …
torture … biological warfare … depleted uranium …
drug trafficking … mercenaries …

It's not a pretty picture.
It is enough to give imperialism a bad name.

Read the full details in:

Killing Hope: US Military and CIA
Interventions Since World War II.

by William Blum
Bluemlein!
What a Fake he is!
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Sat 06/23/12 02:06 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/23/12 02:07 PM
Get off of your knees humans.

Or will you bow to your masters until the end?


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Sat 06/23/12 02:15 PM

Get off of your knees humans.

Or will you bow to your masters until the end?




I couldn't or wouldn't demean myself to bow to another human being but as Jeannie and Princess Diana said "They Are Not Human" so that is a different matter.

I still would not bow to anything that looks like a humanlaugh

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Sat 06/23/12 05:13 PM
Have a joined a dating site, or walked into an asylum?


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Sat 06/23/12 05:52 PM
The royal family of shape shifting reptiles depend on the absurdity of that truth not being believed.

But Thousands of people do believe it.

Hey, thousands of people believe in God and the devil too. It's not much of a stretch really. Is everyone "insane?"laugh laugh

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Sat 06/23/12 07:45 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 06/23/12 07:45 PM

The royal family of shape shifting reptiles depend on the absurdity of that truth not being believed.


I know you're just winding people up.

But Thousands of people do believe it.


Thousands of people believe 911 was a government plot, but that doesn't make it real.

Hey, thousands of people believe in God and the devil too. It's not much of a stretch really.



Yes, but that's a cultural tradition, not from a sci-fi novelist.

Is everyone "insane?"laugh laugh


No, not everyone, and I think 'insane' was too strong in hindsight. 'Poorly educated' and 'gullible' would be more appropriate adjectives.

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Sat 06/23/12 08:06 PM


The royal family of shape shifting reptiles depend on the absurdity of that truth not being believed.


I know you're just winding people up.

But Thousands of people do believe it.


Thousands of people believe 911 was a government plot, but that doesn't make it real.

Hey, thousands of people believe in God and the devil too. It's not much of a stretch really.



Yes, but that's a cultural tradition, not from a sci-fi novelist.

Is everyone "insane?"laugh laugh


No, not everyone, and I think 'insane' was too strong in hindsight. 'Poorly educated' and 'gullible' would be more appropriate adjectives.


And I would say that I think most of the public are the gullible ones, but the training and mind control of humans to believe, worship and obey a mythical God has been going on for centuries. It is ingrained into the collective subconscious.

So, if what I am telling you is that strange or unbelievable,(or "insane") then what does that say about the "cultural traditions" (which are equally strange and "insane") and who has been pedaling these absurdities?

Therefore, if the general public, or anyone, wants to tell me that they think I am "insane" then they should take a very close look at their own beliefs and their own religions.

If they want to declare the Protocols of the Elders of Zion a "fraud" then they better take a good look at the Bible and particularly the book of Deuteronomy and start declaring that book a total fraud also.

















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Sat 06/23/12 08:30 PM

And I would say that I think most of the public are the gullible ones, but the training and mind control of humans to believe, worship and obey a mythical God has been going on for centuries. It is ingrained into the collective subconscious.


But as Australia's recent census shows, our people are breaking the ties of tradition and losing the adherence to religion.

So, if what I am telling you is that strange or unbelievable,(or "insane") then what does that say about the "cultural traditions" (which are equally strange and "insane") and who has been pedaling these absurdities?


Belief systems are not based on facts, just what are discerned as facts by the believer.

Therefore, if the general public, or anyone, wants to tell me that they think I am "insane" then they should take a very close look at their own beliefs and their own religions.


I agree, I myself, have very few beliefs, and none that are based on the spiritual, metaphysical, paranormal or extra-terrestrial.

If they want to declare the Protocols of the Elders of Zion a "fraud" then they better take a good look at the Bible and particularly the book of Deuteronomy and start declaring that book a total fraud also.


Well, the Protocols have been determined a fraud on several occasions owing to it being plagiarised from a work of fairly recent fiction (in historical terms), however, the early biblical texts were known to have existed 2,500 years ago when the Septuagint was compiled in Alexandria.

Your statement implies that the Bible was written with the intent to defraud like the protocols, however, that statement omits the advances in science and understanding that has taken place over the last 600 years. The texts in the Bible evince historical, economic & social conditions of the society that produced them. The belief system throughout the texts is a product of their limited knowledge, as opposed to being written to defame a group, or incite hatred against a group. Furthermore, to compare these texts with modern works is anachronistic.


















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Sat 06/23/12 08:59 PM

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Sun 06/24/12 12:04 PM
Your statement implies that the Bible was written with the intent to defraud like the protocols, however, that statement omits the advances in science and understanding that has taken place over the last 600 years. The texts in the Bible evince historical, economic & social conditions of the society that produced them. The belief system throughout the texts is a product of their limited knowledge, as opposed to being written to defame a group, or incite hatred against a group. Furthermore, to compare these texts with modern works is anachronistic


It has never be proven that the Protocols were written with the intention to incite hatred against a group. All that was decided was that they were plagiarized from an earlier work.

Somebody wrote them. No one knows for sure who or why.


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Sun 06/24/12 12:41 PM

PROTOCOL No. 12

1. The word "freedom," which can be interpreted in various ways, is defined by us as follows -

2. Freedom is the right to do what which the law allows. This interpretation of the word will at the proper time be of service to us, because all freedom will thus be in our hands, since the laws will abolish or create only that which is desirable for us according to the aforesaid program.

3. We shall deal with the press in the following way: what is the part played by the press to-day? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid, unjust, mendacious, and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves. We shall saddle and bridle it with a tight curb: we shall do the same also with all productions of the printing press, for where would be the sense of getting rid of the attacks of the press if we remain targets for pamphlets and books? The produce of publicity, which nowadays is a source of heavy expense owing to the necessity of censoring it, will be turned by us into a very lucrative source of income to our State: we shall lay on it a special stamp tax and require deposits of caution-money before permitting the establishment of any organ of the press or of printing offices; these will then have to guarantee our government against any kind of attack on the part of the press. For any attempt to attack us, if such still be possible, we shall inflict fines without mercy. Such measures as stamp tax, deposit of caution-money and fines secured by these deposits, will bring in a huge income to the government. It is true that party organs might not spare money for the sake of publicity, but these we shall shut up at the second attack upon us. No one shall with impunity lay a finger on the aureole of our government infallibility. The pretext for stopping any publication will be the alleged plea that it is agitating the public mind without occasion or justification. I BEG YOU TO NOTE THAT AMONG THOSE MAKING ATTACKS UPON US WILL ALSO BE ORGANS ESTABLISHED BY US, BUT THEY WILL ATTACK EXCLUSIVELY POINTS THAT WE HAVE PRE-DETERMINED TO ALTER.

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Sun 06/24/12 02:51 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 06/24/12 02:57 PM

Your statement implies that the Bible was written with the intent to defraud like the protocols, however, that statement omits the advances in science and understanding that has taken place over the last 600 years. The texts in the Bible evince historical, economic & social conditions of the society that produced them. The belief system throughout the texts is a product of their limited knowledge, as opposed to being written to defame a group, or incite hatred against a group. Furthermore, to compare these texts with modern works is anachronistic


It has never be proven that the Protocols were written with the intention to incite hatred against a group. All that was decided was that they were plagiarized from an earlier work.

Somebody wrote them. No one knows for sure who or why.




Well, it doesn't 'need' to be proven-it's blatantly obvious. Perhaps you could investigate the rise of Anti-Semitism in the 19th & 20th centuries to place the document in its historical context.

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Sun 06/24/12 02:54 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 06/24/12 03:01 PM

"The great importance of The Protocols lies in its permitting antisemites to reach beyond their traditional circles and find a large international audience, a process that continues to this day. The forgery poisoned public life wherever it appeared; it was "self-generating; a blueprint that migrated from one conspiracy to another." The book's vagueness — almost no names, dates, or issues are specified — has been one key to this wide-ranging success. The purportedly Jewish authorship also helps to make the book more convincing. Its embrace of contradiction — that to advance, Jews use all tools available, including capitalism and communism, philo-Semitism and antisemitism, democracy and tyranny — made it possible for The Protocols to reach out to all: rich and poor, Right and Left, Christian and Muslim, American and Japanese.

Pipes notes that the Protocols emphasizes recurring themes of conspiratorial antisemitism: "Jews always scheme", "Jews are everywhere", "Jews are behind every institution", "Jews obey a central authority, the shadowy 'Elders'", and "Jews are close to success."

The Protocols is widely considered influential in the development of other conspiracy theories, and reappears repeatedly in contemporary conspiracy literature, such as Jim Marrs' Rule by Secrecy. Some recent editions proclaim that the "Jews" depicted in the Protocols are a cover identity for other conspirators such as the Illuminati,[26] Freemasons, the Priory of Sion, or even, in the opinion of David Icke, "extra-dimensional entities."



The 'intent' of the forgery is obvious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

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Sun 06/24/12 04:02 PM

The very fact that such a conspiracy involving a small core elect from Zionist Judaism exists does not implicate the mass of the Jewish people in the conspiracy. Nor does it blame only those of Jewish persuasion for being complicit.

The mass of Jewish people have no desire to see the New World Order instituted, nor do the majority even know of the existence of the conspiracy. Jewish people per se should not be judged according to their religious beliefs or racial descent as being a part of the conspiracy, as most Jews follow a far more tolerant version of Judaism which has reformed many of the extreme elements of their historic creed. Furthermore, many Jewish people have been sacrificed to the cause outlined in the Protocols through the belief of the elders that the "end justifies the means", and all who fall for the cause are greatly exalted in the eyes of Yahweh.


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Sun 06/24/12 04:09 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 06/24/12 04:10 PM
To pretend or deny that there is a global conspiracy for a one world government is putting your heads in the sand.

The proof is evident and obvious. Globalization is happening right before your eyes. You have only to look what is happening in Egypt an Syria and Iraq.

If radical Jews are behind the conspiracy I would think people would want to know. There is proof. However people who speak about such things are silenced by a multitude of crazies who scream "anti-Semitism" in some kind of blind panic.

Its rubbish. A person should be able to print and publish and speak about these facts without being set upon by the dogs of the ADL and apologists for "the chosen people" who have chosen to be part of the cliche of the cultist Illuminati.

There is proof, there is evidence. Stop trying to trample the truth.






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Sun 06/24/12 04:11 PM

To pretend or deny that there is a global conspiracy for a one world government is putting your heads in the sand.

The proof is evident and obvious. Globalization is happening right before your eyes. You have only to look what is happening in Egypt an Syria and Iraq.

If radical Jews are behind the conspiracy I would think people would want to know. There is proof. However people who speak about such things are silenced by a multitude of crazies who scream "anti-Semitism" in some kind of blind panic.

Its rubbish. A person should be able to print and publish and speak about these facts without being set upon by the dogs of the ADL and apologists for "the chosen people" who have chosen to be part of the cliche of the cultist Illuminati.

There is proof, there is evidence. Stop trying to trample the truth.








you sound like a parrot... where is this proof?

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Sun 06/24/12 06:16 PM


To pretend or deny that there is a global conspiracy for a one world government is putting your heads in the sand.

The proof is evident and obvious. Globalization is happening right before your eyes. You have only to look what is happening in Egypt an Syria and Iraq.

If radical Jews are behind the conspiracy I would think people would want to know. There is proof. However people who speak about such things are silenced by a multitude of crazies who scream "anti-Semitism" in some kind of blind panic.

Its rubbish. A person should be able to print and publish and speak about these facts without being set upon by the dogs of the ADL and apologists for "the chosen people" who have chosen to be part of the cliche of the cultist Illuminati.

There is proof, there is evidence. Stop trying to trample the truth.








you sound like a parrot... where is this proof?


There isn't any. It's merely a belief.