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What a load of crock that sign is. 
That's a baptist thinker. And they are the true slaves. A "radical free-thinker" is rebellious to moral standards and exaggerates the intentions of those who encourage godly living. |
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What a load of crock that sign is.
That's a baptist thinker. And they are the true slaves. A "radical free-thinker" is rebellious to moral standards and exaggerates the intentions of those who encourage godly living. So a "free thinker" is ok... just not a "radical free-thinker?" |
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Cowboy why are you quoting scripture? What do you think that proves, and what doe it have to do with the subject? I quoted those scriptures because you said the following And yet when these religions fight wars against each other they all think that this God is on their side Which was total molarky in a general group of "religions". Because the "Christian" God does not promote such as fighting wars. So I'll post them again, since you now know the context they were being said in. Matthew 5 4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. 5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. 6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. 7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. 8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God A meek person is not one that does waring [Meek] - Quiet, gentle, and easily imposed on; submissive A righteous person does not war when we have been told not to take another person's life. A merciful person does not war [Merciful] - Showing or exercising mercy [Mercy] - compassionate or kindly forbearance shown toward an offender, an enemy, or other person in one's power; compassion, pity, or benevolence: Have mercy on the poor sinner. A peacemaker or a pure at heart person does not war. So no, not all of the beliefs in "God"(s) support waring. |
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What a load of crock that sign is.
That's a baptist thinker. And they are the true slaves. A "radical free-thinker" is rebellious to moral standards and exaggerates the intentions of those who encourage godly living. What one persons thinks of as "radical" may differ from what another person thinks. I know more atheists that have and adhere to better morals than most so-called religious people. An evolved person can think for them self and does not need a cult or a religion to dictate moral code. Humans innately know right from wrong (unless they are cold blooded psychopaths or the reptilian Elite, trained to have no compassion.) |
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Jeanniebean
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I imagine there are some people who need direction from others in how to live their lives but people still need to learn to think for themselves and get out from under the control of cults who might use their power of authority to control them.
When you are brave enough to speak out against what you think is wrong regardless of the opposition, then you are being a free thinker. Think for yourself. Don't quote scripture and expect others to understand the meaning the same way you do.. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite. With any inspirational writing, a person needs to just get out of it what it means to them and hopefully become a better person. No inspired writing ever means the same thing to all people. The path to enlightenment is an individual and lonely path. |
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What a load of crock that sign is.
That's a baptist thinker. And they are the true slaves. A "radical free-thinker" is rebellious to moral standards and exaggerates the intentions of those who encourage godly living. So a "free thinker" is ok... just not a "radical free-thinker?" Someone who was a free thinker should seek wisdom... and should rather flee the influence of rebel-rousers who wish to overturn every moral standard that comes to mind. |
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What a load of crock that sign is.
That's a baptist thinker. And they are the true slaves. A "radical free-thinker" is rebellious to moral standards and exaggerates the intentions of those who encourage godly living. So a "free thinker" is ok... just not a "radical free-thinker?" Someone who was a free thinker should seek wisdom... and should rather flee the influence of rebel-rousers who wish to overturn every moral standard that comes to mind. Are you ASSuming a freethinker ISN'T seeking wisdom? You can not possibly know what others seek!!! |
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I imagine there are some people who need direction from others in how to live their lives but people still need to learn to think for themselves and get out from under the control of cults who might use their power of authority to control them. When you are brave enough to speak out against what you think is wrong regardless of the opposition, then you are being a free thinker. Think for yourself. Don't quote scripture and expect others to understand the meaning the same way you do.. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite. With any inspirational writing, a person needs to just get out of it what it means to them and hopefully become a better person. No inspired writing ever means the same thing to all people. The path to enlightenment is an individual and lonely path. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite Maybe when taken out of context, yes. But in context, no. And the scriptures aren't given to make you a better person specifically. They are not a moral guidlines in that exact sense. They are what God expects of someone. In my opinion, yes it does make a person a better person. They live for others and not just purely for themself. They are not selfish, they are not greedy, they worry about other's before money or themselves. |
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I imagine there are some people who need direction from others in how to live their lives but people still need to learn to think for themselves and get out from under the control of cults who might use their power of authority to control them. When you are brave enough to speak out against what you think is wrong regardless of the opposition, then you are being a free thinker. Think for yourself. Don't quote scripture and expect others to understand the meaning the same way you do.. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite. With any inspirational writing, a person needs to just get out of it what it means to them and hopefully become a better person. No inspired writing ever means the same thing to all people. The path to enlightenment is an individual and lonely path. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite Maybe when taken out of context, yes. But in context, no. And the scriptures aren't given to make you a better person specifically. They are not a moral guidlines in that exact sense. They are what God expects of someone. In my opinion, yes it does make a person a better person. They live for others and not just purely for themself. They are not selfish, they are not greedy, they worry about other's before money or themselves. Your kidding right????????????????? So those who don't follow the scriptures are selfish, greedy and care more about money than others??? The catholic church is one of the richest, largest organizations in the world, and corrupt!
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 06/16/12 11:35 AM
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CeriseRose, it seems as if you have a negative view of what a "free thinker" is. It seems that you see them as rebel-rousers, set out to break current moral standards.
On the contrary, that is not always what a free thinker is. It takes a free thinker to stand up against a corrupt authority. For example: When everyone is cheering the illegal act of home invasion and assassination of Osama Bin Laden what moral authority was brave enough to speak out and say ... "THIS IS WRONG!" Not very many. And it was wrong in so many ways. |
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I imagine there are some people who need direction from others in how to live their lives but people still need to learn to think for themselves and get out from under the control of cults who might use their power of authority to control them. When you are brave enough to speak out against what you think is wrong regardless of the opposition, then you are being a free thinker. Think for yourself. Don't quote scripture and expect others to understand the meaning the same way you do.. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite. With any inspirational writing, a person needs to just get out of it what it means to them and hopefully become a better person. No inspired writing ever means the same thing to all people. The path to enlightenment is an individual and lonely path. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite Maybe when taken out of context, yes. But in context, no. And the scriptures aren't given to make you a better person specifically. They are not a moral guidlines in that exact sense. They are what God expects of someone. In my opinion, yes it does make a person a better person. They live for others and not just purely for themself. They are not selfish, they are not greedy, they worry about other's before money or themselves. Your kidding right????????????????? So those who don't follow the scriptures are selfish, greedy and care more about money than others??? The catholic church is one of the richest, largest organizations in the world, and corrupt!
Did I say they were? No I did not. Why assume things? And the Catholic church may be, what's that got to do with anything? You can not make a judgement on a belief through the one's that claim to be obeying that belief, because they may in fact not be obeying it. They may be flower coating certain things, or attempting to. And getting away with it through people's ignorance on the subject. |
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I imagine there are some people who need direction from others in how to live their lives but people still need to learn to think for themselves and get out from under the control of cults who might use their power of authority to control them. When you are brave enough to speak out against what you think is wrong regardless of the opposition, then you are being a free thinker. Think for yourself. Don't quote scripture and expect others to understand the meaning the same way you do.. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite. With any inspirational writing, a person needs to just get out of it what it means to them and hopefully become a better person. No inspired writing ever means the same thing to all people. The path to enlightenment is an individual and lonely path. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite Maybe when taken out of context, yes. But in context, no. And the scriptures aren't given to make you a better person specifically. They are not a moral guidlines in that exact sense. They are what God expects of someone. In my opinion, yes it does make a person a better person. They live for others and not just purely for themself. They are not selfish, they are not greedy, they worry about other's before money or themselves. Cowboy ALL VERSES are taken out of context. Including the ones you post. Unless you are posting the entire book or chapter, a verse or two are all out of context. And they will always have different meanings to each different individual. Get out of them what you can to live your own life. It is your individual spiritual growth that is important, not how many people you convert to your way of thinking. |
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CeriseRose, it seems as if you have a negative view of what a "free thinker" is. It seems that you see them as rebel-rousers, set out to break current moral standards. On the contrary, that is not always what a free thinker is. It takes a free thinker to stand up against a corrupt authority. For example: When everyone is cheering the illegal act of home invasion and assassination of Osama Bin Laden what moral authority was brave enough to speak out and say ... "THIS IS WRONG!" Not very many. And it was wrong in so many ways. When everyone is cheering the illegal act of home invasion and assassination of Osama Bin Laden what moral authority was brave enough to speak out and say ... "THIS IS WRONG!" Not very many. And it was wrong in so many ways. And you know why they didn't/haven't spoke out against it being wrong? Because of fear of being segregated... that's not the word I want to use, but can't think of a better word. They don't want to be the one that is on one side when all to most of the country is on the other side. And also fear of being associated with bin laden and placed in a "group" that they support(ed) what he did. Which all in all, the two really have nothing to do with one another. |
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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Sat 06/16/12 11:43 AM
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I imagine there are some people who need direction from others in how to live their lives but people still need to learn to think for themselves and get out from under the control of cults who might use their power of authority to control them. When you are brave enough to speak out against what you think is wrong regardless of the opposition, then you are being a free thinker. Think for yourself. Don't quote scripture and expect others to understand the meaning the same way you do.. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite. With any inspirational writing, a person needs to just get out of it what it means to them and hopefully become a better person. No inspired writing ever means the same thing to all people. The path to enlightenment is an individual and lonely path. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite Maybe when taken out of context, yes. But in context, no. And the scriptures aren't given to make you a better person specifically. They are not a moral guidlines in that exact sense. They are what God expects of someone. In my opinion, yes it does make a person a better person. They live for others and not just purely for themself. They are not selfish, they are not greedy, they worry about other's before money or themselves. Cowboy ALL VERSES are taken out of context. Including the ones you post. Unless you are posting the entire book or chapter, a verse or two are all out of context. And they will always have different meanings to each different individual. Get out of them what you can to live your own life. It is your individual spiritual growth that is important, not how many people you convert to your way of thinking. No they are not. If you feel a verse(s) that I post is taken out of context, please bring it up. And I will show surrounding verses to place it in context so one can see how it's ment. But just because the verse is posted without the others, doesn't constitute it automatically as being out of context. It is your individual spiritual growth that is important, not how many people you convert to your way of thinking. Absolutely true. I have never once said people should think/believe the way I do. I merely have discussions on the different topics in this forum. If another believes or not matters almost nothing to me. We're all just here discussing and sharing, unless you're gonna say your motives are here to specifically change another's beliefs. If so, that would be you preaching as I'm often accussed of. |
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I imagine there are some people who need direction from others in how to live their lives but people still need to learn to think for themselves and get out from under the control of cults who might use their power of authority to control them. When you are brave enough to speak out against what you think is wrong regardless of the opposition, then you are being a free thinker. Think for yourself. Don't quote scripture and expect others to understand the meaning the same way you do.. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite. With any inspirational writing, a person needs to just get out of it what it means to them and hopefully become a better person. No inspired writing ever means the same thing to all people. The path to enlightenment is an individual and lonely path. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite Maybe when taken out of context, yes. But in context, no. And the scriptures aren't given to make you a better person specifically. They are not a moral guidlines in that exact sense. They are what God expects of someone. In my opinion, yes it does make a person a better person. They live for others and not just purely for themself. They are not selfish, they are not greedy, they worry about other's before money or themselves. Your kidding right????????????????? So those who don't follow the scriptures are selfish, greedy and care more about money than others??? The catholic church is one of the richest, largest organizations in the world, and corrupt!
Did I say they were? No I did not. Why assume things? And the Catholic church may be, what's that got to do with anything? You can not make a judgement on a belief through the one's that claim to be obeying that belief, because they may in fact not be obeying it. They may be flower coating certain things, or attempting to. And getting away with it through people's ignorance on the subject. Really cowboy...what does the catholic church have to do with anything??? Where do you think religion originated from? your absolutely right....people's ignorance is a problem indeed. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 06/16/12 11:48 AM
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Cowboy asked:
Where do you think religion originated from?
The interconnecting Bloodlines of the Reptilian Elite created all the major religions. (In other words, in the eyes of Christians... that would be Satan) The devil created all the major religions. The Biggest Secret is the book that launched David Icke into the public eye in the most controversial way possible. It contains a history of the rulling elite from Sumer and Babylon, reptillian entities, ritual magick and much much more. David Icke reveals in documented detail how interconnecting bloodlines have controlled the planet for thousands of years. How they created all the major religions and suppressed the spiritual and esoteric knowledge that will set humanity free from its mental and emotional prisons. |
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I imagine there are some people who need direction from others in how to live their lives but people still need to learn to think for themselves and get out from under the control of cults who might use their power of authority to control them. When you are brave enough to speak out against what you think is wrong regardless of the opposition, then you are being a free thinker. Think for yourself. Don't quote scripture and expect others to understand the meaning the same way you do.. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite. With any inspirational writing, a person needs to just get out of it what it means to them and hopefully become a better person. No inspired writing ever means the same thing to all people. The path to enlightenment is an individual and lonely path. For every verse in the Bible there is probably one that says and means the opposite Maybe when taken out of context, yes. But in context, no. And the scriptures aren't given to make you a better person specifically. They are not a moral guidlines in that exact sense. They are what God expects of someone. In my opinion, yes it does make a person a better person. They live for others and not just purely for themself. They are not selfish, they are not greedy, they worry about other's before money or themselves. Your kidding right????????????????? So those who don't follow the scriptures are selfish, greedy and care more about money than others??? The catholic church is one of the richest, largest organizations in the world, and corrupt!
Did I say they were? No I did not. Why assume things? And the Catholic church may be, what's that got to do with anything? You can not make a judgement on a belief through the one's that claim to be obeying that belief, because they may in fact not be obeying it. They may be flower coating certain things, or attempting to. And getting away with it through people's ignorance on the subject. Really cowboy...what does the catholic church have to do with anything??? Where do you think religion originated from? your absolutely right....people's ignorance is a problem indeed. I have no idea where any "religion" originated from. Again, I follow no "religion". I follow what God has said, not what man has said about God or claiming to be God. I'm only a "Christian" in the sense I obey Jesus "Christ". I obey my God Jesus Christ, not some religion. |
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Cowboy asked: Where do you think religion originated from?
The interconnecting Bloodlines of the Reptilian Elite created all the major religions. The Biggest Secret is the book that launched David Icke into the public eye in the most controversial way possible. It contains a history of the rulling elite from Sumer and Babylon, reptillian entities, ritual magick and much much more. David Icke reveals in documented detail how interconnecting bloodlines have controlled the planet for thousands of years. How they created all the major religions and suppressed the spiritual and esoteric knowledge that will set humanity free from its mental and emotional prisons. Well, I get that Jeannie, wasn't gonna go there with cowboy. : ) |
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Cowboy asked: Where do you think religion originated from?
The interconnecting Bloodlines of the Reptilian Elite created all the major religions. The Biggest Secret is the book that launched David Icke into the public eye in the most controversial way possible. It contains a history of the rulling elite from Sumer and Babylon, reptillian entities, ritual magick and much much more. David Icke reveals in documented detail how interconnecting bloodlines have controlled the planet for thousands of years. How they created all the major religions and suppressed the spiritual and esoteric knowledge that will set humanity free from its mental and emotional prisons. Well, I get that Jeannie, wasn't gonna go there with cowboy. : ) 
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Cowboy asked: Where do you think religion originated from?
The interconnecting Bloodlines of the Reptilian Elite created all the major religions. (In other words, in the eyes of Christians... that would be Satan) The devil created all the major religions. The reptilian elite are the synagogue of Satan. The Biggest Secret is the book that launched David Icke into the public eye in the most controversial way possible. It contains a history of the rulling elite from Sumer and Babylon, reptillian entities, ritual magick and much much more. David Icke reveals in documented detail how interconnecting bloodlines have controlled the planet for thousands of years. How they created all the major religions and suppressed the spiritual and esoteric knowledge that will set humanity free from its mental and emotional prisons. Pst, Jeanie. Got a secret for you. I didn't say that. Ladylid2012 said that lol. |
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