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It is very simple
1967 Borders and East Jerusalem as Palestinian Capitol Last month, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas demanded that Israel freeze all settlement construction, and accept the ceasefire lines which existed before the 1967 Middle East war as the basis for the borders of a future Palestine, with mutually agreed modifications, before he would return to direct peace talks. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has so far refused to freeze settlement construction in East Jerusalem. Palestinians want the area for their future capital, but Israel insists the city cannot be divided. |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Oh yes...Demand demand demand on the part of the Palestinians. What did they compromise on? Nothing. What did they give up in return for sovereignty and self rule in the West Bank? Nada. What did they give up in return for Gaza? Zilch. They don't care about living side by side in peace. They wish to attack civilians and take no responsibility for their reprehensible terrorism. Arafat was already offered an extremely generous deal and turned it down. The "Palestinians" who don't exist as a culture or ethnicity are not interested in peace with a Jewish state and will not even state publicly that they will accept Israel as a Jewish state. They simply want to make unrealistic ridiculous unilateral demands and then bomb civilians. So what else is new? Israel will protect and preserve their own cultural heritage in the city which was always the capital of Israel since antiquity. When the Palestinians have learned to govern themselves peacefully and have proven themselves to be trustworthy and have made difficult and meaningful concessions in their own right....then and only then will real lasting peace be possible. |
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Edited by
Optomistic69
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Wed 05/30/12 02:42 PM
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Like I said it is very simple
1967 Borders and East Jerusalem as Palestinian Capitol Forgot the right of return 
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Oh yes...Demand demand demand on the part of the Palestinians. What did they compromise on? Nothing. What did they give up in return for sovereignty and self rule in the West Bank? Nada. What did they give up in return for Gaza? Zilch. They don't care about living side by side in peace. They wish to attack civilians and take no responsibility for their reprehensible terrorism. Arafat was already offered an extremely generous deal and turned it down. The "Palestinians" who don't exist as a culture or ethnicity are not interested in peace with a Jewish state and will not even state publicly that they will accept Israel as a Jewish state. They simply want to make unrealistic ridiculous unilateral demands and then bomb civilians. So what else is new? Israel will protect and preserve their own cultural heritage in the city which was always the capital of Israel since antiquity. When the Palestinians have learned to govern themselves peacefully and have proven themselves to be trustworthy and have made difficult and meaningful concessions in their own right....then and only then will real lasting peace be possible. An excellent assessment of the situation. 
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Oh yes...Demand demand demand on the part of the Palestinians. What did they compromise on? Nothing. What did they give up in return for sovereignty and self rule in the West Bank? Nada. What did they give up in return for Gaza? Zilch. They don't care about living side by side in peace. They wish to attack civilians and take no responsibility for their reprehensible terrorism. Arafat was already offered an extremely generous deal and turned it down. The "Palestinians" who don't exist as a culture or ethnicity are not interested in peace with a Jewish state and will not even state publicly that they will accept Israel as a Jewish state. They simply want to make unrealistic ridiculous unilateral demands and then bomb civilians. So what else is new? Israel will protect and preserve their own cultural heritage in the city which was always the capital of Israel since antiquity. When the Palestinians have learned to govern themselves peacefully and have proven themselves to be trustworthy and have made difficult and meaningful concessions in their own right....then and only then will real lasting peace be possible. An excellent assessment of the situation.
Title of the thread should be shortened to: "We won't agree to anything"
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And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England’s mountains green? And was the Holy Lamb of God On England’s pleasant pastures seen? And did the countenance divine Shine forth upon our clouded hills? And was Jerusalem builded here Among these dark satanic mills? Bring me my bow of burning gold! Bring me my arrows of desire! Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold! Bring me my chariot of fire! I will not cease from mental fight, Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand, Till we have built Jerusalem In England’s green and pleasant land. |
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Like I said it is very simple 1967 Borders and East Jerusalem as Palestinian Capitol Forgot the right of return
Never was anything to the Arabs! Never belonged to them! Jordan made a Pigsty of the Jewish Sites! actually,in '67 East-Jerusalem was still occupied by Jordan! 
Palestinian Arabs definitely weren't there!
Don't know where you get your INFO from! Furthermore! Netanyahu: Jerusalem is Ours, Not Up for Debate PM Netanyahu has flatly rejected an American demand to stop Jewish construction in parts of the capital city. By Maayana Miskin First Publish: 7/19/2009, 12:33 PM Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu issued a sharp response Sunday to United States pressure to stop Jews from building in parts of Jerusalem claimed by the Palestinian Authority. Israel's sovereignty in Jerusalem is “not up for debate,” Netanyahu said, and Jews are permitted to build in any part of the capital city, as are Arabs. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132464 as to the "Right Of Return" 
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Binyamin Netanyahu
We can get America to do anything we want
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How about go back to before 635 when Muslims attacked them and took control of Jerusalem?
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Edited by
Optomistic69
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As Ilan Pappe has said,
most Israeli Jews have no idea of what they did to the Palestinians in 1948. (He also said that those who do know don’t think that what was done was wrong). But that’s only the tip of an iceberg of ignorance. ======================================================== Ilan Pappe: I'm not a traitor Controversial historian Ilan Pappe left Israel last year after his endorsement of an academic boycott of Israel exposed him and his family to death threats. Now a professor in England, Pappe maintains that a cultural boycott on his homeland is the only way to end the occupation ============================================================== For those not in the know , Ilan Pappe is a Jew |
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Like I said it is very simple 1967 Borders and East Jerusalem as Palestinian Capitol Forgot the right of return
Never was anything to the Arabs! Never belonged to them! Jordan made a Pigsty of the Jewish Sites! actually,in '67 East-Jerusalem was still occupied by Jordan!
Palestinian Arabs definitely weren't there!
Don't know where you get your INFO from! Furthermore! Netanyahu: Jerusalem is Ours, Not Up for Debate PM Netanyahu has flatly rejected an American demand to stop Jewish construction in parts of the capital city. By Maayana Miskin First Publish: 7/19/2009, 12:33 PM Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu issued a sharp response Sunday to United States pressure to stop Jews from building in parts of Jerusalem claimed by the Palestinian Authority. Israel's sovereignty in Jerusalem is “not up for debate,” Netanyahu said, and Jews are permitted to build in any part of the capital city, as are Arabs. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132464 as to the "Right Of Return"
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As Ilan Pappe has said, most Israeli Jews have no idea of what they did to the Palestinians in 1948. (He also said that those who do know don’t think that what was done was wrong). But that’s only the tip of an iceberg of ignorance. ======================================================== Ilan Pappe: I'm not a traitor Controversial historian Ilan Pappe left Israel last year after his endorsement of an academic boycott of Israel exposed him and his family to death threats. Now a professor in England, Pappe maintains that a cultural boycott on his homeland is the only way to end the occupation ============================================================== For those not in the know , Ilan Pappe is a Jew |
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Hope you're not holding your Breath about Jerusalem!
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The mounting public criticism of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu by past and present members of the Zionist state’s defense and intelligence establishments triggered the recall of a comment made to me by one of its former Directors of Military Intelligence. The comment was: “If we had a government consisting of only former DMI’s, we’d have had peace with the Palestinians long ago.” |
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Hope you're not holding your Breath about Jerusalem!
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Because of the mainstream media’s complicity in Zionism’s suppression of the truth of history as it relates to the making and sustaining of the conflict in and over Palestine that became Israel, most Americans and Europeans of all faiths and none have no idea of the enormity of Zionism’s crime.
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Because of the mainstream media’s complicity in Zionism’s suppression of the truth of history as it relates to the making and sustaining of the conflict in and over Palestine that became Israel, most Americans and Europeans of all faiths and none have no idea of the enormity of Zionism’s crime.
Maybe it really is time you two really picked up a Book on History,instead of perusing those Sites! 
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Edited by
Optomistic69
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Thu 05/31/12 02:37 PM
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“The bottom line to the tragedy of the Palestinians
is that the Catastrophe of 1948 is still going on, as Jewish colonization of the West Bank continues to expand. The objectives of the Jews have not changed since the early part of the twentieth century. Their motto continues to be ‘dunum after dunum of land’ for the exclusive use of Jews. |
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It is very simple 1967 Borders and East Jerusalem as Palestinian Capitol Last month, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas demanded that Israel freeze all settlement construction, and accept the ceasefire lines which existed before the 1967 Middle East war as the basis for the borders of a future Palestine, with mutually agreed modifications, before he would return to direct peace talks. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has so far refused to freeze settlement construction in East Jerusalem. Palestinians want the area for their future capital, but Israel insists the city cannot be divided. Never was anything to the Arabs! Never belonged to them! Jordan made a Pigsty of the Jewish Sites! actually,in '67 East-Jerusalem was still occupied by Jordan!
Palestinian Arabs definitely weren't there!
Don't know where you get your INFO from! Furthermore! Netanyahu: Jerusalem is Ours, Not Up for Debate PM Netanyahu has flatly rejected an American demand to stop Jewish construction in parts of the capital city. By Maayana Miskin First Publish: 7/19/2009, 12:33 PM Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu issued a sharp response Sunday to United States pressure to stop Jews from building in parts of Jerusalem claimed by the Palestinian Authority. Israel's sovereignty in Jerusalem is “not up for debate,” Netanyahu said, and Jews are permitted to build in any part of the capital city, as are Arabs. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132464 as to the "Right Of Return"
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Edited by
Optomistic69
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Thu 05/31/12 02:40 PM
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Question: Is completion of the liquidation of the Palestinian presence
in historical Palestine really Zionism’s mission? I believe the answer is “Yes”, and that unless the major powers led by America summon up the will to call and hold Zionism’s monster child to account for its crimes, there will be a final ethnic cleansing of Palestine at some point in a foreseeable future. |
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