Lie detectors

Larry Bailey, Chuck and Mary Schantag, Steve Waterman and others are on a nationwide mission to expose those who exaggerate or falsely claim military service.

Times are tough for fake soldiers.

Latest casualty: Distinguished historian Joseph J. Ellis, exposed as a phony Vietnam veteran, besmirching an otherwise brilliant career as an author and professor.

Other notables among the recently fallen: a Pennsylvania schools superintendent who claimed to have been a decorated Navy SEAL; a retired police chief in Ohio who told stories of Green Beret heroism and brutal captivity as a prisoner of the Viet Cong; a leader of Wal-Mart's executive security detail who claimed to have been not only a SEAL but also a master killer, supposedly dispatching one of his 16 victims with a rolled-up newspaper; a major league baseball manager who told his players hair-raising tales of Marine missions in Vietnam.

Impostors, one and all.

Then there's the Baltimore construction worker, less celebrated but just as bold in his claims, having told a string of girlfriends during the past few years that he's a SEAL - a member of the elite corps of Navy commandos trained for sea, air and land operations - and a naval intelligence operative. Wearing a wide variety of uniforms and medals, he boasts of heroic exploits and three combat wounds while finagling loans and other favors from one unwitting admirer after another.

Government records show that he, too, is an impostor.

So who keeps shooting down these non-warriors, exposing their lies and exaggerations?

In an increasing number of cases - thousands, in fact - it is people such as Larry Bailey, Steve Waterman, Chuck and Mary Schantag, and a dozen or so others running a linked network of databases and Internet "gotcha" sites. Together these dogged folks, many of them retired soldiers, keep tabs on fake POWs, fake Medal-of-Honor winners, fake SEALs, fake Green Berets and just about any other brand of military pretender you could imagine.

It's the ones who use their tales to advance their careers and their image that anger him most, he says, duping bosses, girlfriends, the news media and sometimes even the Veterans Administration, collecting benefit payments and free medical service.

This driven core of debunkers is responding to what Chuck and Mary Schantag's site at pownetwork.org calls "a nationwide epidemic."

"Every time we expose a new one, it seems like we get reports of two or three more," says Mary Schantag, of Skidmore, Mo. She and her husband have turned up 668 fake POWs since they checked out the first claim in 1998.

"It just keeps growing and growing and growing," she says, so much that the fake warriors sometimes outnumber the real ones.

Retired Navy Captain Larry Bailey, an ex-SEAL from Mount Vernon, Va., who helps run a database for the Web site authentiseals.org, says about 7,000 phony SEALs have been identified during the past six years. In reality, roughly 10,000 people have completed either SEAL training or, prior to the founding of the SEALs in 1962, the Navy's "frogman" training, which began during World War II. As of May, there were 2,220 active duty SEALs.

"About 19 of every 20 people we get inquiries about are fake," says Bailey, whose site lists 622 impostors in alphabetical order under the heading, Meet some of the most despicable people on Earth."


So, if you falsely promote yourself as some sort of war hero long enough, one of these people may eventually track you down. Once they do, they'll haunt you forever, and in the age of e-mail and cyberspace they've achieved a deadly efficiency in spreading the word.

In Pennsylvania, Panther Valley district schools superintendent Raymond Aucker lost his job when he was exposed as an impostor who'd been boasting about his exploits as a SEAL, and the sleuths made sure his subsequent employers found out as well.

A federal judge sentenced Aucker last October to two years probation and 200 hours of community service at a veterans hospital in Iowa for falsifying his military records.

"It is a consuming thing," says Waterman, 55, who works in the industrial security business and does "wannabe" sleuthing in his spare time. "It's sort of like becoming an anti-war demonstrator, except it's on the other side of the spectrum. It gets to be personal."

Army Airborne veteran Michael Anderson even participates in "busting phonies" from his home in the Philippines, saying by e-mail that he has "worked on roughly 40 cases and am currently working on 3 concurrently ... I spend 20 to 30 hours a month working cases and researching material." He spent nine months on one case alone, sending more than 350 e-mails in the process.

The payoff comes in moments such as the one in August 1999, when Bailey and two other ex-SEALs accompanied a BBC camera crew to the front door of Wayne Higley, a Stoneham, Mass., man who, among other boasts, had said he was a SEAL who'd won a Navy Cross and three Purple Hearts, sometimes showing off his "combat scars." His act had been convincing enough to make him a featured speaker at a 1994 ceremony at the Women's Vietnam Memorial in Washington, which landed him an interview on "Good Morning America."

So, the SEALs showed up at his apartment to demand some answers. With the BBC filming and Waterman snapping photos, Higley stood on his doorstep while one of his indignant visitors proclaimed, "Wayne, we are your worst nightmare come true, three real SEALs and a TV crew."

Bailey has been busy lately tracking down details of a Baltimore case, involving 37-year-old construction worker Timothy Warren Bradford, who he says claims to have won several medals and to have been wounded in several wars while fighting as a SEAL. He has also said he is a Naval Intelligence operative, and a graduate of the U.S, Naval Academy. All three claims are false.

But they've helped gain favors and affection from a string of women, Bailey says. "He is truly a predator," Bailey says. "He beds these women, he takes their money. He gives them all kinds of problems."

The Sun spoke to nine people, including several former girlfriends, who've listened to Bradford's boasts and seen his various uniforms and medals. Each asked that their names not be used, saying they feared his temper.

According to the military records section of the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, Bradford's only actual time in the armed forces was a seven-and-a-half month hitch in the Marine Corps when he was 18. He was discharged in December 1982 - nearly 19 years ago - before completing infantry training school at Camp Lejeune, N.C. The center can't release the nature of his discharge without his permission.

Federal law prohibits the unauthorized wearing of military uniforms or medals, though the statutes are seldom enforced. The greatest penalty for most impostors is public humiliation. That was the case with the most recent notable example, historian Joseph J. Ellis, who in the past few years had won not only a Pulitzer Prize but a National Book Award for books on Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers.

Ellis had been telling "war stories" of his Vietnam experiences to his students at Mount Holyoke College for several years, as well as to interviewers. It turned out he'd never served there, and Boston Globe reporter Walter Robinson exposed his deception after the paper received a tip. Robinson won't say who the tipster was.

Why do people fabricate such heroics, especially those who are already famous in their own right? Bailey had a long chat with a clinical psychologist about that very question.

Some impostors, he was told, simply have antisocial personality disorders. They're the ones who see lying about military heroics as the best way to exploit others for personal gain. Others are simply trying to make up for low self-esteem by burnishing their image, figuring they won't get caught.

"Basically what it amounts to," Bailey says, "is a guy who for some reason has a feeling of inadequacy."

Ellis, the most recent and perhaps most stunning example, has offered an apology but no public explanation. But he may have inadvertently offered a clue to his motives during an recent online interview conducted before the controversy emerged.

When asked about what Thomas Jefferson did during the American Revolution, Ellis said he didn't serve in the army, even though he was young enough. That later became a source of embarrassment for Jefferson, Ellis added, saying, "When he runs for office later on, they keep calling this moment back to him that he didn't serve. It would be like now if somebody missed service in Vietnam, and basically being told, 'Where were you when it was time to be counted?' "


What do you think? How many are out there that you know?

I have busted several, and as a Veteran it burns my butt!

Oh yeah cws,Did I tell you I was delta force

It also hurts being lied to by one of these imposters. I think of a man who serves as putting himself aside and seeing the greater good. Greater love has no one but this, that he lay his life down for his friends. In this case, for the freedom of people he has never met. Men who actually lay there lives down are put down by the imposters Fanta has posted about. Honorable men serve. Cowards deceive.

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be call sons of God"

This quote (and for those of you who know of which I speak, verse) makes sense...Soldiers see deplorable and unspeakable acts in war, as does God. God knows the heart of the serving soldier. He knows the sights that turn honorable men's stomachs and yet they serve. It's no wonder they will be called sons of God, the Son served the same way.

:D God bless.

There are alot , Hell everybody I have met has said they were special forces r some other high regiment.I will give you this honestly u r one of the few to admit to just being an 11 bang bang nothing more.

Oh boy, here we go again, I see where this is headed.

Naw its not going that route, But I understand what he is talking about my ex father in law was one such person I was a navy seal but never had any proof of it lol.

Fanta,
check this out!

http://cold-war-veterans-blog.blogspot.com/

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good post fanta.
US Air Force, Retired.

Being online its so easy to portray someone your not. Recently at another site i am a long time member of I received a message from a man claiming he was a historian and published author on american war. YEAH RIGHT!!! is what i thought. This man claimed to have many published books and of course writes along with tom clancy. Heard of him? I bet you and many have. John Grisham. Still i did not believe this person until just the other night watching the military channel. I saw this SAME MAN being interviewed during a documentary on war. I about fell over since this was the same topic AND book he was speaking of while contacting me. Sometimes there are real people online. GO FIGURE!!!!