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Topic: US deploys F-22s to base near Iran
Optomistic69's photo
Sat 04/28/12 09:17 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sat 04/28/12 09:17 AM
@ AndyBgood

Violence is not always the answer.

As regards Iran's Sabre rattling/ Drum Beating, its a bit like your baseball bat.

Iran v The might of the world...no contest so that argument does not hold up.
I am glad you brought in the word ELITIST'S but be careful, there are those on here that will label you with being a Conspiracy Theorist and then you are truly Phuckedlaugh laugh laugh Baseball Bat or not

P.S

America is the UN

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/28/12 09:52 AM

@ AndyBgood

Violence is not always the answer.

As regards Iran's Sabre rattling/ Drum Beating, its a bit like your baseball bat.

Iran v The might of the world...no contest so that argument does not hold up.
I am glad you brought in the word ELITIST'S but be careful, there are those on here that will label you with being a Conspiracy Theorist and then you are truly Phuckedlaugh laugh laugh Baseball Bat or not

P.S

America is the UN
Is a Conspiracy I tells ya,a Conspiracy!
Yep,USA has all the Votes in the UNGA and the UNSC!:laughing:


Besides that "ELITIST" has been used in a way different manner than you are using it!:laughing:

metalwing's photo
Sat 04/28/12 09:54 AM


I don't expect Obama to do anything to help Israel unless he sees some advantage in getting votes.


This is one reason I stay on here.

Are you living in a BUBBLE?

Why would Israel need help?

ISRAEl are armed to the hilt.




You appear to be misinformed. Israel has excellent weapons and troops for defense, which means short range engagements. Israel also has nukes which they would use in a heartbeat in self defense but not to attack without running the risk of starting a nuclear regional war involving the US, Russia, and possibly Great Britain and France. It could spread to include Pakistan and India.

In long range attack, Israel does not have the planes, weapons, refueling, counter electronics, or other conventional weapons and logistics to attack Iran's underground facilities with a high degree of success.

Are you living in a bubble or do you just make up whatever facts seem to fit your position?

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 04/28/12 09:57 AM



I don't expect Obama to do anything to help Israel unless he sees some advantage in getting votes.


This is one reason I stay on here.

Are you living in a BUBBLE?

Why would Israel need help?

ISRAEl are armed to the hilt.




You appear to be misinformed. Israel has excellent weapons and troops for defense, which means short range engagements. Israel also has nukes which they would use in a heartbeat in self defense but not to attack without running the risk of starting a nuclear regional war involving the US, Russia, and possibly Great Britain and France. It could spread to include Pakistan and India.

In long range attack, Israel does not have the planes, weapons, refueling, counter electronics, or other conventional weapons and logistics to attack Iran's underground facilities with a high degree of success.

Are you living in a bubble or do you just make up whatever facts seem to fit your position?


You have answered your own question.bigsmile

Lpdon's photo
Sat 04/28/12 11:01 AM

Iranian naval admiral: ‘If needed, we can move to within three miles of New York’

http://news.yahoo.com/iranian-naval-admiral-needed-move-within-three-miles-021602873.html

The Islamic Republic of Iran said Tuesday that it has the ability to position a naval vessel within three miles of the East Coast of the United States.

“The power of our naval forces is such that we have a presence in all the waters of the world and, if needed, we can move to within three miles of New York,” Rear Admiral Ali Fadavi said Tuesday during a speech to the students of the University of Yazd in Iran. His remarks were quoted by an Iranian student news agency.

This naval saber rattling represents a stark escalation in Iran’s war rhetoric, as the West weighs the question of whether to impose new economic sanctions or directly attack the Islamic regime’s illicit nuclear facilities.

well,it seems it's only D**kwaving when the West does it,in the "esteemed" "Opinion" of our EU-"Colleges"!

Why does Europe love oppressive Regimes so much?sick


What a moron. Does he not realise the amount of ships(Navy and Coast Guard), subs, aircraft and forces we have that would sink their little dingy if they tried that stunt.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 04/28/12 11:02 AM



I don't expect Obama to do anything to help Israel unless he sees some advantage in getting votes.


This is one reason I stay on here.

Are you living in a BUBBLE?

Why would Israel need help?

ISRAEl are armed to the hilt.




So what you are saying here is you are the kind of person who would turn their back on a friend? I am for invading Iran but I am not for another Iraq. If we take out the Leadership they have they will go back to being like they were in the 1970s PRE CARTER (Without the Shaw of course). That was when women there HAD RIGHTS! It is not the people of Iran I have a problem with, it is their government leaders and military leaders. I also got a huge bone to pick with Islam. So what do we do, keep letting them beat war drums until THEY get froggy? Sorry but I don't take threats lightly.


We wouldn't have to invade. We could take out their leadership and their Nuclear facilities pretty easily and therebels from the Arab Spring will come back out in force and the hard line regime will fall.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 04/28/12 11:04 AM

@ AndyBgood

Violence is not always the answer.

As regards Iran's Sabre rattling/ Drum Beating, its a bit like your baseball bat.

Iran v The might of the world...no contest so that argument does not hold up.
I am glad you brought in the word ELITIST'S but be careful, there are those on here that will label you with being a Conspiracy Theorist and then you are truly Phuckedlaugh laugh laugh Baseball Bat or not

P.S

America is the UN


America is NOT the UN.

no photo
Sat 04/28/12 01:04 PM
Ok straight up...

Do Americans want to be part of the world community or just want to dictate what other countries do? If they want to dictate, then do it the ol fashion way, black out CNN, BBC, Reuters and send in the bombers to level them all, you know the drill... Charles Taylor has nothin on Americans war crimes... Blood diamonds??? Pffft! bushleague! Arming Rebels??? double pffft!!! I mean c'mon! They're experts in dooping the public... If anything, America is slipping in the BS department... pick it up eh? Blame the commies, the muslims....Anything! gawd!

The whole "Raison d'etre" of America is war... the economy, fiscal structure, politicians. Without it, you're done! At first you fought each other, now you've managed to export your terror in the name of Israel.

Bomb North Korea and you'll gain my respect... They have nukes, they have 1 million strong army, they've made threats, they've sunk battleships, tested ICBMs.... THEY are a REAL threat to the world. do what you've always done, BOMB THEM!

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 04/28/12 01:46 PM

Ok straight up...

Do Americans want to be part of the world community or just want to dictate what other countries do? If they want to dictate, then do it the ol fashion way, black out CNN, BBC, Reuters and send in the bombers to level them all, you know the drill... Charles Taylor has nothin on Americans war crimes... Blood diamonds??? Pffft! bushleague! Arming Rebels??? double pffft!!! I mean c'mon! They're experts in dooping the public... If anything, America is slipping in the BS department... pick it up eh? Blame the commies, the muslims....Anything! gawd!

The whole "Raison d'etre" of America is war... the economy, fiscal structure, politicians. Without it, you're done! At first you fought each other, now you've managed to export your terror in the name of Israel.

Bomb North Korea and you'll gain my respect... They have nukes, they have 1 million strong army, they've made threats, they've sunk battleships, tested ICBMs.... THEY are a REAL threat to the world. do what you've always done, BOMB THEM!


A man after my own heart...drinker

metalwing's photo
Sat 04/28/12 05:10 PM




I don't expect Obama to do anything to help Israel unless he sees some advantage in getting votes.


This is one reason I stay on here.

Are you living in a BUBBLE?

Why would Israel need help?

ISRAEl are armed to the hilt.




You appear to be misinformed. Israel has excellent weapons and troops for defense, which means short range engagements. Israel also has nukes which they would use in a heartbeat in self defense but not to attack without running the risk of starting a nuclear regional war involving the US, Russia, and possibly Great Britain and France. It could spread to include Pakistan and India.

In long range attack, Israel does not have the planes, weapons, refueling, counter electronics, or other conventional weapons and logistics to attack Iran's underground facilities with a high degree of success.

Are you living in a bubble or do you just make up whatever facts seem to fit your position?


You have answered your own question.bigsmile


Yes I did. You just make up whatever "facts" you want. If you paid a little attention to recent history, you would note that Great Britain and France combined did not have the bunker busters, anti missile capability, cruise missiles, etc., to take out Libya's forces and required the US's help in a big way.

In your bubble Israel is more powerful than Great Britain and France combined.

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 04/28/12 10:59 PM

Ok straight up...

Do Americans want to be part of the world community or just want to dictate what other countries do? If they want to dictate, then do it the ol fashion way, black out CNN, BBC, Reuters and send in the bombers to level them all, you know the drill... Charles Taylor has nothin on Americans war crimes... Blood diamonds??? Pffft! bushleague! Arming Rebels??? double pffft!!! I mean c'mon! They're experts in dooping the public... If anything, America is slipping in the BS department... pick it up eh? Blame the commies, the muslims....Anything! gawd!

The whole "Raison d'etre" of America is war... the economy, fiscal structure, politicians. Without it, you're done! At first you fought each other, now you've managed to export your terror in the name of Israel.

Bomb North Korea and you'll gain my respect... They have nukes, they have 1 million strong army, they've made threats, they've sunk battleships, tested ICBMs.... THEY are a REAL threat to the world. do what you've always done, BOMB THEM!


Iran has made a lot of threats too. Frankly N Korea needs to come to an and like Communism in China! N Korea though, I so want to see that fat moon faced punk Kim Jonmg Un's head on a pike along with his entire head of military!

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 04/28/12 11:01 PM





I don't expect Obama to do anything to help Israel unless he sees some advantage in getting votes.


This is one reason I stay on here.

Are you living in a BUBBLE?

Why would Israel need help?

ISRAEl are armed to the hilt.




You appear to be misinformed. Israel has excellent weapons and troops for defense, which means short range engagements. Israel also has nukes which they would use in a heartbeat in self defense but not to attack without running the risk of starting a nuclear regional war involving the US, Russia, and possibly Great Britain and France. It could spread to include Pakistan and India.

In long range attack, Israel does not have the planes, weapons, refueling, counter electronics, or other conventional weapons and logistics to attack Iran's underground facilities with a high degree of success.

Are you living in a bubble or do you just make up whatever facts seem to fit your position?


You have answered your own question.bigsmile


Yes I did. You just make up whatever "facts" you want. If you paid a little attention to recent history, you would note that Great Britain and France combined did not have the bunker busters, anti missile capability, cruise missiles, etc., to take out Libya's forces and required the US's help in a big way.

In your bubble Israel is more powerful than Great Britain and France combined.


I have to agree here. I see a lot of fact bending here in this thread. Optomistic69, where do you get your facts from? MSNBC by chance? The BBC is not THAT liberal! They do try hard to remain objective.

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 04/28/12 11:05 PM

@ AndyBgood

Violence is not always the answer.

As regards Iran's Sabre rattling/ Drum Beating, its a bit like your baseball bat.

Iran v The might of the world...no contest so that argument does not hold up.
I am glad you brought in the word ELITIST'S but be careful, there are those on here that will label you with being a Conspiracy Theorist and then you are truly Phuckedlaugh laugh laugh Baseball Bat or not

P.S

America is the UN


I ride on the edge of that accusation all the time but what keeps me from being one of the loonies is that I look at both sides and try to evaluate the BS factor of both.

The whole Trevon Martin issue in Florida is PROOF POSITIVE of why the Media cannot be trusted at all! Before facts were available they were already doctoring photos and twisting stories. Worst is they got CAUGHT RED HANDED!

New World Order is a reality we should fear. With no Constitution or Bill of Rights we will get dragged right back into a corporate led Feudalism in the name of a One World government!

Optomistic69's photo
Sun 04/29/12 04:21 AM



New World Order is a reality we should fear. With no Constitution or Bill of Rights we will get dragged right back into a corporate led Feudalism in the name of a One World government!



Now there is something the Anti Conspiracy Theorists should be discussing...:thumbsup: waving

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Sun 04/29/12 07:03 AM




New World Order is a reality we should fear. With no Constitution or Bill of Rights we will get dragged right back into a corporate led Feudalism in the name of a One World government!



Now there is something the Anti Conspiracy Theorists should be discussing...:thumbsup: waving
it's actually being done by the UN,not by some Shadowy Conspiracy by some Illuminated Group under the Direction of Rothschild as you believe!:laughing:

Optomistic69's photo
Sun 04/29/12 07:16 AM





New World Order is a reality we should fear. With no Constitution or Bill of Rights we will get dragged right back into a corporate led Feudalism in the name of a One World government!



Now there is something the Anti Conspiracy Theorists should be discussing...:thumbsup: waving
it's actually being done by the UN,not by some Shadowy Conspiracy by some Illuminated Group under the Direction of Rothschild as you believe!:laughing:


There you have it folks...The UN is bringing forth the New World Order...One World Government.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 04/29/12 07:31 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 04/29/12 07:38 AM






New World Order is a reality we should fear. With no Constitution or Bill of Rights we will get dragged right back into a corporate led Feudalism in the name of a One World government!



Now there is something the Anti Conspiracy Theorists should be discussing...:thumbsup: waving
it's actually being done by the UN,not by some Shadowy Conspiracy by some Illuminated Group under the Direction of Rothschild as you believe!:laughing:


There you have it folks...The UN is bringing forth the New World Order...One World Government.
BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
Hatched a new Conspiracy?:laughing: rofl slaphead
You really need to inform your self what is going on in this World!
Now you wanny tell me that The Illuminati,Masons,Templars etc have made common Cause with the UN?
Or how was that again?
Did I leave someone out?
That shadowy KAOS,Picturebergers,Smiley's People,Ring Der Nibelungen,just to mention a few?
And the Siegfriedists are running it all!noway surprised shocked

Lpdon's photo
Mon 04/30/12 10:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iKuMVqht4U

:banana: :thumbsup: :banana:

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