Topic: Love needs sacrifice
prashant01's photo
Wed 03/28/12 07:43 AM
Or

Sacrifice needs love?

In my opinion it is usual to love someone without sacrificing anything,but it is unusual to sacrifice for someone without loving him/her.

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 03/28/12 08:14 AM
Sacrifice

“Sacrifice” is the surrender of a greater value for the sake of a lesser one or of a nonvalue. Thus, altruism gauges a man’s virtue by the degree to which he surrenders, renounces or betrays his values (since help to a stranger or an enemy is regarded as more virtuous, less “selfish,” than help to those one loves). The rational principle of conduct is the exact opposite: always act in accordance with the hierarchy of your values, and never sacrifice a greater value to a lesser one.

This applies to all choices, including one’s actions toward other men. It requires that one possess a defined hierarchy of rational values (values chosen and validated by a rational standard). Without such a hierarchy, neither rational conduct nor considered value judgments nor moral choices are possible.



It stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there’s someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master.

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/sacrifice.html

Kimoboy's photo
Wed 03/28/12 08:24 AM
My definition of LOVE is placing someone else's needs above mine.

I can only do that when I am strong within myself.

Does that count as a "sacrifice?" No I am sharing my strength.

And it is given freely by my own choice.

prashant01's photo
Wed 03/28/12 08:47 AM
change is a sort of sacrifice


OMG...unreal babes...u r so expert in defining as per your convenience.


You will change YOUR old car by new one & definitely claim it as a SACRIFICE....laugh laugh laugh






Conrad_73's photo
Wed 03/28/12 08:50 AM
If doing something for the Person you love is a Sacrifice to you,you better start questioning your Values!

lilott's photo
Wed 03/28/12 09:09 AM

change is a sort of sacrifice


OMG...unreal babes...u r so expert in defining as per your convenience.


You will change YOUR old car by new one & definitely claim it as a SACRIFICE....laugh laugh laugh






My truck is paid for. If I bought a new one it would really be a sacrifice.

prashant01's photo
Wed 03/28/12 09:16 AM
Edited by prashant01 on Wed 03/28/12 09:30 AM

The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master.


This is true.

Those who expects others sacrifice for them self are not worthy of being called human.

krupa's photo
Wed 03/28/12 05:02 PM
This is a tough one.

When I love...I don't think of things as sacrifices....I do what I do because I love and love is worth it.

I don't even consider giving up things or doing things as sacrifices...I just do what my heart tells me is the right thing to do.


wux's photo
Wed 03/28/12 07:39 PM
My definition of love is a good cop of coffee, a good book or the Daily Telegraph, some neat background music, and a nice daydream about IBM at 238.40.

bigblake's photo
Wed 03/28/12 07:43 PM
idk about that>.>

pyxxie13's photo
Wed 03/28/12 08:29 PM
Kimoboy I like how you put that into words. I have to agree with you there.

prashant01's photo
Thu 03/29/12 07:06 AM
Edited by prashant01 on Thu 03/29/12 07:07 AM

When I love...I don't think of things as sacrifices....I do what I do because I love and love is worth it.


Soooooo well said, krupa.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 03/29/12 07:11 AM


change is a sort of sacrifice


OMG...unreal babes...u r so expert in defining as per your convenience.


You will change YOUR old car by new one & definitely claim it as a SACRIFICE....laugh laugh laugh








laugh

But indeed! We sacrifice our old selves to gain our new selves. We grow, we learn, we change. Sacrifice my old car for the new one...hill yes, and it was well worth it man. The old way got me nowhere, and the new one takes me where I want to go.
yep,it's a heck of a "Sacrifice" to exchange something of less worth for something better!laugh

prashant01's photo
Thu 03/29/12 07:24 AM



change is a sort of sacrifice


OMG...unreal babes...u r so expert in defining as per your convenience.


You will change YOUR old car by new one & definitely claim it as a SACRIFICE....laugh laugh laugh








laugh

But indeed! We sacrifice our old selves to gain our new selves. We grow, we learn, we change. Sacrifice my old car for the new one...hill yes, and it was well worth it man. The old way got me nowhere, and the new one takes me where I want to go.
yep,it's a heck of a "Sacrifice" to exchange something of less worth for something better!laugh


And one day we sacrifice our loving partner for getting new one....of course just for LOVE!!

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

prashant01's photo
Thu 03/29/12 07:36 AM

My definition of LOVE is placing someone else's needs above mine.


There is a story in my mother tongue titled as 'MOTHER'S HEART'.

He was her only son.

He was loving her spouse very much.

One day his spouse asked him "I wish to drink blood of your mother's heart"

That beloved son placed his beloved spouse's NEED above all morality, affection etc etc. & killed his mother,removed her heart from her dead body & carried to his beloved wife.

He fell down in street due to stones & screamed as got wound.

Mother's heart exclaimed..."Oh my dear son,are you alright....!"


prashant01's photo
Thu 03/29/12 07:37 AM

idk about that>.>



laugh laugh laugh This is excellent!laugh laugh laugh

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 03/29/12 09:05 AM
I believe love does require sacrifice. But then, I don't see sacrifice as the negative thing that most people do.

Not to turn this into a religion thread but the greates act of love known to man involved the ultimate sacrifice.

prashant01's photo
Thu 03/29/12 09:08 AM
the greatest act of love known to man involved the ultimate sacrifice.


Awww...ruth,you are always perfect!!flowerforyou smooched

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 03/29/12 06:28 PM

the greatest act of love known to man involved the ultimate sacrifice.


Awww...ruth,you are always perfect!!flowerforyou smooched


Well, not always. Most of the time though. :wink: laugh

flowerforyou


prashant01's photo
Fri 03/30/12 07:46 AM


the greatest act of love known to man involved the ultimate sacrifice.


Awww...ruth,you are always perfect!!flowerforyou smooched


Well, not always. Most of the time though. :wink: laugh

flowerforyou


Still,it is good.

anyway

see what krupa is saying

When I love...I don't think of things as sacrifices....I do what I do because I love and love is worth it.

I don't even consider giving up things or doing things as sacrifices...I just do what my heart tells me is the right thing to do.


In my opinion,it is also a high level of thinking.

Now if you see,both statements ( Your & his ) are great & adorable ,but contradict each other.

Krupa's statement is denying the existence of sacrifice somehow & you are terming sacrifice as greatest act.
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