Question 1: Who created who ? / God created Jesus or Jesus create God ?/

Question 2:Why Jesus said : Mark 15:34
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?





Question 3rd:so if God is Jesus then danggggggggg ! God is dead

a "literal parable" is a contradiction ....

when Jesus talks to the masses it's a parable...

when Jesus talks to his disciples it literal ....

he was talking to his disciples about eating flesh and drinking blood

Funches ,

you are a very bad guy , you scared to death CowboyGH and now he gone and sure he'd forget what we asked him here... /as usual/

He was about to learn something about religion.
Or maybe one of 3-some God's entities grabs his mouse in the darkness of his religious mess knowledge and forces him now to read bible .

1. Neither one created either one. In the beginning was the Word and the Word is God and the Word was with God.

John 1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


Then the Word became flesh and dwelt among us eg., Jesus.


John 1:14
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


2. Because the word "God" does not mean an entity percisely, it's not denoted as a name or a species or anything of such. The word "God" means figure of authority -

a person or thing of supreme value
a powerful ruler

We refer to our creator as "God" because the scriptures do not give a name for our God. And is our authority. That alone is why the scriptures say there is one God, but at times says "know ye not that ye are gods". And also Jesus is our Lord thy "God". So by the looks of it there would be many "gods". But God the father is God of the gods. And is why there is a judge of the gods.

Psalm 82

1God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.


And again, even with all this referring to other beings as "gods", there still but one God, one authority over all, one creator, God the father. That's where the buck stops so to speak lol.

While Jesus was on Earth, he left his glory behind. He took on the form of a servant. Thus being a servant, that would make God the Father his "authority", thus Jesus referred to his father as "my God".

Yes when Jesus speaks he speaks in parables. But he was holding a PHYISCAL cup in his hand when he was speaking. So how could he have been speaking a parable when it specifically says "cup". When it says "cup" it literally means "cup" for again, he was holding that "cup". Or are you saying when you ask someone to get you a glass/cup of water, you are speaking in parables because you used the word "cup"?

No one scared anyone off. I didn't reply to his post that was there a couple days as it was the same thing over and over, just Funches belittling the belief. So I refrained from responding to it as it's been explained prevsiously as to stop the back and forth with the same thing(s) and allow the thread to progress in it's discussions.

literally physical blood was in those literally physical cups ....Jesus taught to drink blood and eat flesh....so why are you trying to prove otherwise...quit being ashame of your religion and embrace it...is this why you don't go to Mass?

Because Jesus didn't say my blood is the wine, he said this wine is my blood that is spilt for the remissions of sins. His blood hadn't been spilt yet eg., the crucifixtion had not happened yet, so obviously he wasn't speaking literally.

Chocolina said:




CoyboyGH said:




Now God became 4 parts - Father , son , Holy spirit , Word

OK ... who /how was created Word who transform into God ?


CoyboyGH said :

Who " we " .. .And who /what created Word aka God latter ?

CoyboyGH said :


Really ???? Read what you said :



So you follow nothing because as you said : " scriptures do not give a name for our God" ...


I think that soon you gonna start to write your bible and the teaching will be 'cowboyism:

No, the Word and Jesus are the exact same person in reference. Jesus is the Word in the flesh.



One doesn't follow a name, one follows what the being said to do. Doesn't matter if a name is known or not.

No one created the Word. The Word has always been.



How or why would I write my own bible? The bible is filled with history of things that have happened and prophecies of things to come. I was not phyiscally at the places of those things that happened nor am I a prophet... what are you talking about?

And besides that, our God's name is known. Jesus Christ eg., the Lord thy God. And his father's name will be known in due time if it is not already known in the original scriptures.

actually your post only proves that Jesus was speaking literally...remissions of sins is about absolution ...and absolution is received by eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Christ

There is but one God.

Jesus is but a son.

Follow a few more of his footsteps seeker...

when you have arrived at the Lote Tree where he sits...

God is in the Glory that shines upon him.

Indeed one cannot follow the Unknowable Essence by a name...

The Right of Naming was given Adam only unto the things of the Earth.

The Right of Naming is now given to Eve that she might name the Journey of Mankind into the Heavens of Reality.

The Right of Naming God is given no human for understanding must be to name a name upon something, and that which is Unknowable by its very Essence we can not fully understand.

Yes there is but one God, Jesus is the same God as his father thus we have why Jesus said. "The father and I are one".

Cowboy...

The Father and I also are One...

Yet I am not the Son of God.

I am the Son of Man.

I am not God though he walks with me.

Jesus is not God though he also walks with me.

(He and the Father are One).

John 17

18As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

19And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

20Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one

"Cowboy 3"...first you claim that The Father The Holy Spirit and Jesus are three seperate entites...now you're claiming they are one entity

clearly a contradiction

one would have a better chance of finding Amelia Earhart then they would have in finding one post of yours that haven't contradicted another post of yours

"Funches 5".... No, only your missunderstanding. I never said they are one entity, I said they are one God, just as we can be one with them as well.


John 17

18As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

19And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

20Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one