Topic: RP continues to win caucuses and delegates in spite of media
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Tue 03/20/12 10:43 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/is-ron-paul-secretly-winning-the-missouri-caucus-2012-3#ixzz1pj8retO6
Ron Paul Is Winning ANOTHER Caucus, And The Media Isn't Telling You About It
While Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum duke it out for delegates in high-profile primaries like Illinois and Pennsylvania, Ron Paul's quiet pursuit of delegates appears to be paying off.
Early results from Missouri's caucuses this weekend show that the long-shot libertarian candidate is significantly outperforming his rivals in the race for delegates. Senior campaign advisors tell Business Insider that Paul appears to have picked up the majority of Missouri's delegates, despite having lost the state's nonbinding primary to Rick Santorum.
"We did do real well in Missouri," Benton said. "Some county conventions are still going on, but we've got good turnout. Anecdotal evidence shows we won multiple caucuses, and it looks like we're going to pick up the majority of delegates."
Although the final delegate tally won't be determined until the state party convention this spring, Paul's success in Missouri is a validation of his low-key caucus strategy. The Paul campaign has recently shifted its focus to winning unbound delegates in caucus states, where delegates are elected at state conventions rather than by the popular vote.
In Missouri, Paul's robust and aggressive organization has filled a void left by Santorum's lackluster operation. As in Iowa, Maine, and other states, Paul organizers have taken advantage of caucus chaos to stage legitimate takeovers of several county contests. In St. Charles County, outside St. Louis, the crowd was so unruly that party leaders were forced to shut down the caucus before delegates were elected, and two Paul supporters were arrested.
The Santorum campaign has offered a counter-narrative about Missouri. On a conference call with reporters today, senior campaign strategist John Yob told reporters that they anticipate Santorum will win a majority of delegates in the Show Me State.
But reports from the caucuses indicate that the Santorum campaign was completely outmaneuvered by the Paul campaign. Although the former Pennsylvania Senator has gained momentum in recent weeks, his campaign lags far behind his rivals in terms of organization.
“Rick Santorum will never be able to catch up,” Benton told BI. “He’s been scrambling to try, but he had poor organization to begin with. He does have some party insiders and establishment people who have been lending him their organizations, but he doesn’t have one.”
The Paul campaign's internal count has Santorum in third place, Benton added.
"His consultants should stop misleading him," he told Business Insider. "They are destroying his credibility."
In Greene County, for example, Santorum received just six of the delegates despite having the support of nearly half of the county's deeply conservative Republican voters. In Boone County, Paul supporters managed to shut out Santorum entirely.
Yob blamed those losses on an alliance between Paul and Romney supporters, echoing Santorum's past assertions that his two rivals are conspiring to lock him out of the race.
Benton conceded that state organizers did work with the Romney camp to push through a slate of delegate in several Missouri counties. But he said that there were other counties where Paul supporters worked with the Santorum campaign, as well as ones where Romney and Santorum worked together to shut out Paul.
"It was really on a county-by-county basis," Benton said. "In some counties, there is really a palpable desire to block Romney."


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Tue 03/20/12 11:21 PM
i don't think Ron Paul is a bad choice for president. He is just a little out there at times like Al Gore but without the intense BS and lies! He is more centrally fixed on what to do about the national crisis of Government out of control. But I am worried he doesn't have what America needs to fix the problem and I am stumped for who would be a better choice but damn if 4 more years of Obama would destroy us as a nation utterly.

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Wed 03/21/12 12:27 AM



We cannot afford 4 more years of Obama and our constitutions butthole can't either!

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Wed 03/21/12 09:56 AM
Yup Ron Paul is on a roll now he is at 50 delegates now? laugh Romney is at over 500 and Santorum is over 200. Ron Paul cant win, even if he won EVERY state left in the race. :banana:

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Wed 03/21/12 11:57 AM
And neither would the rest of them have enough delegates......maybe none of them will end up with enough delegates to take the primary

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Wed 03/21/12 12:05 PM
Did you know there are UNBOUND delegates? This video does a good job of explaining delegates. Ben Swan who does the video has an informative facebook page also.

Title of video; Reality Check: The Real Republican Delegate Numbers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYmgy2eHyKI&list=PL8E6D20CF0CB44CFD&index=2

It ain't over till it's over! Vote for Ron Paul!!

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Thu 03/22/12 11:19 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 03/22/12 11:21 AM

Yup Ron Paul is on a roll now he is at 50 delegates now? laugh Romney is at over 500 and Santorum is over 200. Ron Paul cant win, even if he won EVERY state left in the race. :banana:


The process of selecting delegates for the Republican National Convention (RNC) varies from state to state. In some states, like Florida, the winner of the popular vote is awarded all of the delegates for that state. Those delegates are bound to vote for the winner of the popular vote "only during the first round of voting" at the RNC. After that they are free to vote the candidate of their choice, or the popular vote. That’s the easy part.

In other states, the process is not that simple. A popular vote is held, but it’s really no more than a preference poll or “straw poll.” After the straw poll is closed, a series of meetings commence in which delegates are elected from a precinct, district or county, which then elect delegates to a state convention, which then elect the delegates to represent that state at the RNC. This process typically takes months after the straw poll is over and the resulting delegates for each candidate may bear little resemblance to the vote percentage that candidate won in the straw poll.

To say Romney has 500 delegates is a farce as the number "bound" to him so far is actually in the 200's. They are ONLY BOUND TO THE 1st VOTE!

While the insane one has "won" many states in the beauty contest straw poll, he has actually picked up hardly any delegates, as most are "unbound" even after the county and state caucus.

The Grinch is staying in because he has at least as many "bound" as the insane one.

RP on the other hand is sweeping up delegates for the state and county caucus conventions, and stands to garner many "unbound" spots on the national delgate committee selection heading to Tampa. This is where the majority of delegates actually are at this point.... UNBOUND!

BEST TO KNOW A SUBJECT BEFORE YOU TRY TO TEACH IT, or are suckered into popular, untrue, beliefs!


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Thu 03/22/12 11:36 AM

And neither would the rest of them have enough delegates......maybe none of them will end up with enough delegates to take the primary


Romney's got the nomination. He doesn't even need to win more states, he can lose them and stil get the deligates that the second place candidate gets. He's going to be the nominee.

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Thu 03/22/12 11:37 AM

Did you know there are UNBOUND delegates? This video does a good job of explaining delegates. Ben Swan who does the video has an informative facebook page also.

Title of video; Reality Check: The Real Republican Delegate Numbers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYmgy2eHyKI&list=PL8E6D20CF0CB44CFD&index=2

It ain't over till it's over! Vote for Ron Paul!!


Not many are unbound or super delegates. Not enough to throw the election. Nice try and keep dreaming.

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Thu 03/22/12 12:32 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 03/22/12 12:52 PM
laugh

Misdirection of a topic does not change a fact. Winning a straw poll does NOT guarantee a nomination.

As was stated, it's not over till it's over at this point. Nobody can aquire the needed number of "bound" delgates to guarantee they are the nominee.

See ya in Tampa!

Dreams are wonderful things. They are the result of optimistic thinking, based on a belief or realistic event. An extension of reality the mind finds favorable.

Dream on? Thank you, we will!

Much better than the nightmare of your favored reality.

May you find peace as well.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 03/22/12 01:01 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 03/22/12 01:03 PM
BTW.... there are at this point, over 300 unbound delegates to be selected and 2/3 or more states yet to poll.

Don't believe for a second that unbound delegates CAN'T change the popular choice for a nominee.... they did for Reagan, Bush and Owe-Bummer!

Lpdon's photo
Thu 03/22/12 10:17 PM

BTW.... there are at this point, over 300 unbound delegates to be selected and 2/3 or more states yet to poll.

Don't believe for a second that unbound delegates CAN'T change the popular choice for a nominee.... they did for Reagan, Bush and Owe-Bummer!


They will only change if it's a brokered convention and if a brokered convention happens then it will be Romney or Santorum as one of the other will throw their support behind the other from some political promise and the deligates follow suit. Anything can happen but I have more chances of growing a third testicle then RP has of getting the nomination.

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Fri 03/23/12 12:30 PM


BTW.... there are at this point, over 300 unbound delegates to be selected and 2/3 or more states yet to poll.

Don't believe for a second that unbound delegates CAN'T change the popular choice for a nominee.... they did for Reagan, Bush and Owe-Bummer!


They will only change if it's a brokered convention and if a brokered convention happens then it will be Romney or Santorum as one of the other will throw their support behind the other from some political promise and the deligates follow suit. Anything can happen but I have more chances of growing a third testicle then RP has of getting the nomination.


Like "Rick the insane one".... being fixated on the lower extremities of an anatomy he fails to see the forest thru the trees.

The reality may tell a very different tale indeed.

Nothing is finished until the chubby lady sings and the band has been paid.

Good luck with the growth hormones..... rofl