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Topic: Iran: A Manufactured Threat
Bestinshow's photo
Tue 02/07/12 12:54 PM
Iran attacked no other country in over 200 years. It threatens none now. It’s neighbors know it. So do Washington and Israel.

Nonetheless, saber rattling warnings continue. At issue is making an independent state a client one. It’s why Washington orchestrated Syria’s insurgency and continues anti-Iranian propaganda.

Tehran won’t tolerate losing its sovereignty, nor should it. It suffered a generation of repression under Washington’s installed Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi after the CIA’s first ever coup ousted democratically elected Mohammad Mosaddegh.

It also knows how America and Israel reign terror throughout the region. As a result, it’s prepared to defend itself if attacked.

America’s business is war, permanent war for unchallenged global dominance. Post-9/11, multiple ones raged and continue. Ordinary people want them stopped.

On February 4, dozens of anti-war organizations held a “Day of Mass Action to Stop a US War on Iran.” Among others, The World Can’t Wait announced it headlining, “NO war! NO sanctions! No intervention! No Assassinations.”

A press release listed dozens of participating US cities, large and small. Other known countries involved included Canada, Britain, India, Ireland, Turkey, Norway, and Bangladesh.

Former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark participated. In 1992, he founded the International Action Center (IAC). Calling itself “anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist,” it’s committed against wars, racism, economic exploitation, and other forms of injustice.

Its web site urged worldwide participation in an “emergency” protest day of action.

Thousands across America alone participated. Follow-up actions are planned. People are fed up and want America’s war machine stopped. Vital resources are squandered while growing needs go unaddressed.

Major media scoundrels misreported about Saturday’s pro and anti-government protests in Moscow, but ignored anti-war ones in their own cities and across America.

In fact, they cheerlead Washington’s wars. For months, they regurgitated hostile Syrian/Iranian propaganda. Their drumbeat continues daily.

Their misinformation promotes war, mass killing, vast destruction, and human misery. Their reports exclude these and other key facts. Instead they feature agitprop and bald-faced lies about a nonbelligerent state, threatening on one, including America and Israel.

Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) on Anti-Iranian Propaganda

On February 2, FAIR’s Peter Hart headlined, “Iran: This is What Propaganda Looks Like,” saying:

Like crabgrass infests lawns, it’s “everywhere, thanks to a Senate appearance yesterday by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.”

Yet his comments fell far short of justifying heightened anti-Iranian propaganda in response. “His main point was that Iran could launch attacks if it felt threatened.” He also cited falsified claims that should have been condemned, not repeated as alleged facts.

For example, he said:

“The 2011 plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States shows that some Iran officials – probably including (Ayatollah) Ali Khamenei – have changed their calculus and are now more willing to conduct an attack in the United States in response to real or perceived US actions that threaten the regime.”

At the time, CBS News called the report “dire,” saying “Iran would likely launch terrorist attacks on US soil as pressure mounts against the regime in Tehran.”

NBC’s Matt Lauer asked if an Israeli “preemptive nuclear strike” was justified in response.

Only the Wall Street Journal couldn’t stomach the ludicrous charge. Obama officials claimed it was “authorized at the highest levels in Tehran,” according to Carnegie Endowment for International Peace” analyst Karim Sadjadpour and many other paid-to-lie commentators, reporters, and opinion writers.

In fact, the allegation didn’t pass the smell test or others about Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program and wanting to wipe Israel off the map.

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On February 3, ABC News reported a spurious accusation about potential Iranian strikes in North America, including against Israeli facilities. It cited an Israeli “internal security document,” saying:

“We predict that the threat on our sites around the world will increase….on both our guarded sites and ‘soft’ sites.”

Israel’s Consul General for the Mid-Atlantic States Eliran Avitan circulated the allegation. Recently in Tel Aviv, Shin Bet’s Yoram Cohen told an audience that Iran plans targeting Israeli sites in retaliation for Mossad’s assassinations of its nuclear scientists.

All accusations are baseless. Yet ABC TV, other broadcasters, and cable channels featured them to generate anti-Iranian hostility.

On January 31, ABC’s Diane Sawyer introduced Pentagon correspondent Martha Raddatz’s propaganda piece complete with alarmist graphics and unrelated belligerent video footage, saying:

“The saber rattling from Iran has been constant.” Tehran “may be more ready than ever to launch terror attacks in the United States.”

Unrelated images of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with Venezuela’s Chavez and Fidel Castro in Cuba were featured, saying these leaders “have little love for the US.”

Neither do growing millions worldwide, especially throughout the Middle East and Afghanistan where US policies and officials are reviled with good reason.

Notably, since Iran’s 1979 revolution and US hostage crisis, Washington’s been spoiling for a fight. The Carter administration considered invading and seizing its oil fields.

Reagan escalated Carter’s policies short of committing US forces in combat. Saddam then got US backing. A decade of war followed. America pretended support for both sides, but mostly gave it to Iraq.

US/Iranian relations remain tense. Washington’s sought regime change for years. Various confrontational tactics include on and off saber rattling, sanctions, direct and covert meddling in Iran’s internal affairs, cyberwar, subversion, targeted assassinations, other destabilization tactics, and vicious propaganda to incite fear and justice war.

Yet major media scoundrels regurgitate it like fact instead of offering readers and viewers truth and full disclosure.

On January 31, NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams lied to viewers saying:

“Iran’s threat. Not just the nuclear program. Tonight, US intelligence warns Iran may be prepared to strike on American soil.” Referring to Clapper’s testimony, he called it a “chilling new assessment about the scope of the threat from Iran.”

NBC correspondent Andrea Mitchell added:

“Experts warn that the US is even more vulnerable than Israel if Iran retaliates or launches a preemptive bomb plot….Soft US targets like embassies throughout the Persian Gulf and 90,000 American troops in Afghanistan, next door to Iran” are vulnerable.

“Still, intelligence officials told the Senate today they don’t think Iran has taken the final step, deciding to build a bomb. But Israel does think Iran has crossed that red line, and US officials say if attacked, Iran would not hesitate to retaliate against both Israel and the US.”

In fact, international law permits responding to belligerent attacks in self-defense. It’s not only justified, it obligates nations to protect their people against enemies. US media reports exclude those facts. Instead they generate fear and hostility against nonexistent threats.

Is America headed for war on Iran? Only the fullness of time will tell. Yet heightened tensions make anything ahead possible, especially given Washington’s intolerance for independent regimes. Stay tuned. Updates will follow.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.S/small>

http://theintelhub.com/2012/02/07/iran-a-manufactured-threat/

Optomistic69's photo
Tue 02/07/12 01:01 PM
Would be quite a dramatic turn around for Iran to Attack anyone after 200 years of non attack.

Even a nuclear armed Iran would not attack.

Eighty Million People have no desire to commit suicide.


Big Dick Foreign Policy is Over.


Conrad_73's photo
Tue 02/07/12 01:01 PM

Iran attacked no other country in over 200 years. It threatens none now. It’s neighbors know it. So do Washington and Israel.

Nonetheless, saber rattling warnings continue. At issue is making an independent state a client one. It’s why Washington orchestrated Syria’s insurgency and continues anti-Iranian propaganda.

Tehran won’t tolerate losing its sovereignty, nor should it. It suffered a generation of repression under Washington’s installed Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi after the CIA’s first ever coup ousted democratically elected Mohammad Mosaddegh.

It also knows how America and Israel reign terror throughout the region. As a result, it’s prepared to defend itself if attacked.

America’s business is war, permanent war for unchallenged global dominance. Post-9/11, multiple ones raged and continue. Ordinary people want them stopped.

On February 4, dozens of anti-war organizations held a “Day of Mass Action to Stop a US War on Iran.” Among others, The World Can’t Wait announced it headlining, “NO war! NO sanctions! No intervention! No Assassinations.”

A press release listed dozens of participating US cities, large and small. Other known countries involved included Canada, Britain, India, Ireland, Turkey, Norway, and Bangladesh.

Former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark participated. In 1992, he founded the International Action Center (IAC). Calling itself “anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist,” it’s committed against wars, racism, economic exploitation, and other forms of injustice.

Its web site urged worldwide participation in an “emergency” protest day of action.

Thousands across America alone participated. Follow-up actions are planned. People are fed up and want America’s war machine stopped. Vital resources are squandered while growing needs go unaddressed.

Major media scoundrels misreported about Saturday’s pro and anti-government protests in Moscow, but ignored anti-war ones in their own cities and across America.

In fact, they cheerlead Washington’s wars. For months, they regurgitated hostile Syrian/Iranian propaganda. Their drumbeat continues daily.

Their misinformation promotes war, mass killing, vast destruction, and human misery. Their reports exclude these and other key facts. Instead they feature agitprop and bald-faced lies about a nonbelligerent state, threatening on one, including America and Israel.

Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) on Anti-Iranian Propaganda

On February 2, FAIR’s Peter Hart headlined, “Iran: This is What Propaganda Looks Like,” saying:

Like crabgrass infests lawns, it’s “everywhere, thanks to a Senate appearance yesterday by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.”

Yet his comments fell far short of justifying heightened anti-Iranian propaganda in response. “His main point was that Iran could launch attacks if it felt threatened.” He also cited falsified claims that should have been condemned, not repeated as alleged facts.

For example, he said:

“The 2011 plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States shows that some Iran officials – probably including (Ayatollah) Ali Khamenei – have changed their calculus and are now more willing to conduct an attack in the United States in response to real or perceived US actions that threaten the regime.”

At the time, CBS News called the report “dire,” saying “Iran would likely launch terrorist attacks on US soil as pressure mounts against the regime in Tehran.”

NBC’s Matt Lauer asked if an Israeli “preemptive nuclear strike” was justified in response.

Only the Wall Street Journal couldn’t stomach the ludicrous charge. Obama officials claimed it was “authorized at the highest levels in Tehran,” according to Carnegie Endowment for International Peace” analyst Karim Sadjadpour and many other paid-to-lie commentators, reporters, and opinion writers.

In fact, the allegation didn’t pass the smell test or others about Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program and wanting to wipe Israel off the map.

Advertisement
On February 3, ABC News reported a spurious accusation about potential Iranian strikes in North America, including against Israeli facilities. It cited an Israeli “internal security document,” saying:

“We predict that the threat on our sites around the world will increase….on both our guarded sites and ‘soft’ sites.”

Israel’s Consul General for the Mid-Atlantic States Eliran Avitan circulated the allegation. Recently in Tel Aviv, Shin Bet’s Yoram Cohen told an audience that Iran plans targeting Israeli sites in retaliation for Mossad’s assassinations of its nuclear scientists.

All accusations are baseless. Yet ABC TV, other broadcasters, and cable channels featured them to generate anti-Iranian hostility.

On January 31, ABC’s Diane Sawyer introduced Pentagon correspondent Martha Raddatz’s propaganda piece complete with alarmist graphics and unrelated belligerent video footage, saying:

“The saber rattling from Iran has been constant.” Tehran “may be more ready than ever to launch terror attacks in the United States.”

Unrelated images of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with Venezuela’s Chavez and Fidel Castro in Cuba were featured, saying these leaders “have little love for the US.”

Neither do growing millions worldwide, especially throughout the Middle East and Afghanistan where US policies and officials are reviled with good reason.

Notably, since Iran’s 1979 revolution and US hostage crisis, Washington’s been spoiling for a fight. The Carter administration considered invading and seizing its oil fields.

Reagan escalated Carter’s policies short of committing US forces in combat. Saddam then got US backing. A decade of war followed. America pretended support for both sides, but mostly gave it to Iraq.

US/Iranian relations remain tense. Washington’s sought regime change for years. Various confrontational tactics include on and off saber rattling, sanctions, direct and covert meddling in Iran’s internal affairs, cyberwar, subversion, targeted assassinations, other destabilization tactics, and vicious propaganda to incite fear and justice war.

Yet major media scoundrels regurgitate it like fact instead of offering readers and viewers truth and full disclosure.

On January 31, NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams lied to viewers saying:

“Iran’s threat. Not just the nuclear program. Tonight, US intelligence warns Iran may be prepared to strike on American soil.” Referring to Clapper’s testimony, he called it a “chilling new assessment about the scope of the threat from Iran.”

NBC correspondent Andrea Mitchell added:

“Experts warn that the US is even more vulnerable than Israel if Iran retaliates or launches a preemptive bomb plot….Soft US targets like embassies throughout the Persian Gulf and 90,000 American troops in Afghanistan, next door to Iran” are vulnerable.

“Still, intelligence officials told the Senate today they don’t think Iran has taken the final step, deciding to build a bomb. But Israel does think Iran has crossed that red line, and US officials say if attacked, Iran would not hesitate to retaliate against both Israel and the US.”

In fact, international law permits responding to belligerent attacks in self-defense. It’s not only justified, it obligates nations to protect their people against enemies. US media reports exclude those facts. Instead they generate fear and hostility against nonexistent threats.

Is America headed for war on Iran? Only the fullness of time will tell. Yet heightened tensions make anything ahead possible, especially given Washington’s intolerance for independent regimes. Stay tuned. Updates will follow.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.S/small>

http://theintelhub.com/2012/02/07/iran-a-manufactured-threat/
laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 02/07/12 01:03 PM

Would be quite a dramatic turn around for Iran to Attack anyone after 200 years of non attack.

Even a nuclear armed Iran would not attack.

Eighty Million People have no desire to commit suicide.


Big Dick Foreign Policy is Over.


The Telvers would!sick

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 02/07/12 01:05 PM

Iran attacked no other country in over 200 years. It threatens none now. It’s neighbors know it. So do Washington and Israel.

Nonetheless, saber rattling warnings continue. At issue is making an independent state a client one. It’s why Washington orchestrated Syria’s insurgency and continues anti-Iranian propaganda.

Tehran won’t tolerate losing its sovereignty, nor should it. It suffered a generation of repression under Washington’s installed Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi after the CIA’s first ever coup ousted democratically elected Mohammad Mosaddegh.

It also knows how America and Israel reign terror throughout the region. As a result, it’s prepared to defend itself if attacked.

America’s business is war, permanent war for unchallenged global dominance. Post-9/11, multiple ones raged and continue. Ordinary people want them stopped.

On February 4, dozens of anti-war organizations held a “Day of Mass Action to Stop a US War on Iran.” Among others, The World Can’t Wait announced it headlining, “NO war! NO sanctions! No intervention! No Assassinations.”

A press release listed dozens of participating US cities, large and small. Other known countries involved included Canada, Britain, India, Ireland, Turkey, Norway, and Bangladesh.

Former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark participated. In 1992, he founded the International Action Center (IAC). Calling itself “anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist,” it’s committed against wars, racism, economic exploitation, and other forms of injustice.

Its web site urged worldwide participation in an “emergency” protest day of action.

Thousands across America alone participated. Follow-up actions are planned. People are fed up and want America’s war machine stopped. Vital resources are squandered while growing needs go unaddressed.

Major media scoundrels misreported about Saturday’s pro and anti-government protests in Moscow, but ignored anti-war ones in their own cities and across America.

In fact, they cheerlead Washington’s wars. For months, they regurgitated hostile Syrian/Iranian propaganda. Their drumbeat continues daily.

Their misinformation promotes war, mass killing, vast destruction, and human misery. Their reports exclude these and other key facts. Instead they feature agitprop and bald-faced lies about a nonbelligerent state, threatening on one, including America and Israel.

Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) on Anti-Iranian Propaganda

On February 2, FAIR’s Peter Hart headlined, “Iran: This is What Propaganda Looks Like,” saying:

Like crabgrass infests lawns, it’s “everywhere, thanks to a Senate appearance yesterday by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.”

Yet his comments fell far short of justifying heightened anti-Iranian propaganda in response. “His main point was that Iran could launch attacks if it felt threatened.” He also cited falsified claims that should have been condemned, not repeated as alleged facts.

For example, he said:

“The 2011 plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States shows that some Iran officials – probably including (Ayatollah) Ali Khamenei – have changed their calculus and are now more willing to conduct an attack in the United States in response to real or perceived US actions that threaten the regime.”

At the time, CBS News called the report “dire,” saying “Iran would likely launch terrorist attacks on US soil as pressure mounts against the regime in Tehran.”

NBC’s Matt Lauer asked if an Israeli “preemptive nuclear strike” was justified in response.

Only the Wall Street Journal couldn’t stomach the ludicrous charge. Obama officials claimed it was “authorized at the highest levels in Tehran,” according to Carnegie Endowment for International Peace” analyst Karim Sadjadpour and many other paid-to-lie commentators, reporters, and opinion writers.

In fact, the allegation didn’t pass the smell test or others about Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program and wanting to wipe Israel off the map.

Advertisement
On February 3, ABC News reported a spurious accusation about potential Iranian strikes in North America, including against Israeli facilities. It cited an Israeli “internal security document,” saying:

“We predict that the threat on our sites around the world will increase….on both our guarded sites and ‘soft’ sites.”

Israel’s Consul General for the Mid-Atlantic States Eliran Avitan circulated the allegation. Recently in Tel Aviv, Shin Bet’s Yoram Cohen told an audience that Iran plans targeting Israeli sites in retaliation for Mossad’s assassinations of its nuclear scientists.

All accusations are baseless. Yet ABC TV, other broadcasters, and cable channels featured them to generate anti-Iranian hostility.

On January 31, ABC’s Diane Sawyer introduced Pentagon correspondent Martha Raddatz’s propaganda piece complete with alarmist graphics and unrelated belligerent video footage, saying:

“The saber rattling from Iran has been constant.” Tehran “may be more ready than ever to launch terror attacks in the United States.”

Unrelated images of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with Venezuela’s Chavez and Fidel Castro in Cuba were featured, saying these leaders “have little love for the US.”

Neither do growing millions worldwide, especially throughout the Middle East and Afghanistan where US policies and officials are reviled with good reason.

Notably, since Iran’s 1979 revolution and US hostage crisis, Washington’s been spoiling for a fight. The Carter administration considered invading and seizing its oil fields.

Reagan escalated Carter’s policies short of committing US forces in combat. Saddam then got US backing. A decade of war followed. America pretended support for both sides, but mostly gave it to Iraq.

US/Iranian relations remain tense. Washington’s sought regime change for years. Various confrontational tactics include on and off saber rattling, sanctions, direct and covert meddling in Iran’s internal affairs, cyberwar, subversion, targeted assassinations, other destabilization tactics, and vicious propaganda to incite fear and justice war.

Yet major media scoundrels regurgitate it like fact instead of offering readers and viewers truth and full disclosure.

On January 31, NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams lied to viewers saying:

“Iran’s threat. Not just the nuclear program. Tonight, US intelligence warns Iran may be prepared to strike on American soil.” Referring to Clapper’s testimony, he called it a “chilling new assessment about the scope of the threat from Iran.”

NBC correspondent Andrea Mitchell added:

“Experts warn that the US is even more vulnerable than Israel if Iran retaliates or launches a preemptive bomb plot….Soft US targets like embassies throughout the Persian Gulf and 90,000 American troops in Afghanistan, next door to Iran” are vulnerable.

“Still, intelligence officials told the Senate today they don’t think Iran has taken the final step, deciding to build a bomb. But Israel does think Iran has crossed that red line, and US officials say if attacked, Iran would not hesitate to retaliate against both Israel and the US.”

In fact, international law permits responding to belligerent attacks in self-defense. It’s not only justified, it obligates nations to protect their people against enemies. US media reports exclude those facts. Instead they generate fear and hostility against nonexistent threats.

Is America headed for war on Iran? Only the fullness of time will tell. Yet heightened tensions make anything ahead possible, especially given Washington’s intolerance for independent regimes. Stay tuned. Updates will follow.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.S/small>

http://theintelhub.com/2012/02/07/iran-a-manufactured-threat/
they have enough Proxies to do their Fighting!
But now the money seems to run out!:laughing:

Optomistic69's photo
Tue 02/07/12 01:09 PM
It is easy to understand an observation by one of Israel's leading military historians, Martin van Creveld. After the U.S. invaded Iraq, knowing it to be defenseless, he noted, "Had the Iranians not tried to build nuclear weapons, they would be crazy." — Noam Chomsky

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 02/07/12 01:10 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 02/07/12 01:11 PM

It is easy to understand an observation by one of Israel's leading military historians, Martin van Creveld. After the U.S. invaded Iraq, knowing it to be defenseless, he noted, "Had the Iranians not tried to build nuclear weapons, they would be crazy." — Noam Chomsky
Uncle Noam!rofl

Next thing we know you'll start to quote Jesse Ventura!laugh

heavenlyboy34's photo
Tue 02/07/12 02:29 PM


It is easy to understand an observation by one of Israel's leading military historians, Martin van Creveld. After the U.S. invaded Iraq, knowing it to be defenseless, he noted, "Had the Iranians not tried to build nuclear weapons, they would be crazy." — Noam Chomsky
Uncle Noam!rofl

Next thing we know you'll start to quote Jesse Ventura!laugh

Noam was quoting Van Creveld. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld

Read closer next time.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 02/07/12 02:36 PM



It is easy to understand an observation by one of Israel's leading military historians, Martin van Creveld. After the U.S. invaded Iraq, knowing it to be defenseless, he noted, "Had the Iranians not tried to build nuclear weapons, they would be crazy." — Noam Chomsky
Uncle Noam!rofl

Next thing we know you'll start to quote Jesse Ventura!laugh

Noam was quoting Van Creveld. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld

Read closer next time.
make it less ambiguous next time!


And the Quote is actually a Misquote,taken out of context!

Optomistic69's photo
Tue 02/07/12 02:37 PM
Why bother comment on a misquote?

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 02/07/12 02:38 PM

Why bother comment on a misquote?
'cause it came from you!laugh
And Noam is famous for it!

Optomistic69's photo
Tue 02/07/12 02:46 PM


Why bother comment on a misquote?
'cause it came from you!laugh
And Noam is famous for it!


I love Noam Chomsky..drinker drinker drinker

shook his hand you know

Noam and I are buddies...drinker drinker drinker

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 02/07/12 03:26 PM
Since the 1979 Iranian revolution and the downfall of the US Puppet Ruler the Shah, Iran has been an Islamic state. In that interval of time, 1979 to the present, Iran has not invaded anyone. Not once. People of all religions live in peace in Iran, even Jews, who find life so comfortable in Iran they refused an offer by the government of Israel to emigrate!

In the same period of time, Israel, a self-declared Jewish state, attacked Iraq in 1981, bombing the power station at Osirik, claiming it was a clandestine weapons factory. Subsequent examination of the ruins following the 2003 invasion proved Israel had lied. In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. This led to the Massacres at Sabra and Shatilla. In February 2003 Israel staged incursions into Gaza and Nablus. In September 2007 Israel bombed Syria, again insisting they were destroying a clandestine weapons laboratory. Again there was no evidence to support Israel's claims. In 2006, Israel attacked Lebanon, killing 1200, mostly civilians, several UN observers, and littering the landscape with land mines on their way out. In February 2008 Israel again raided Gaza, killing over 100. HAMAS agreed to a cease fire and kept it for 6 months until November 4, when Israel again attacked without warning, killing 6 HAMAS members, and launching operation CAST LEAD. 1300 Gazans, mostly civilians, were killed. Israel lost 13 soldiers. Violations of international law included the use of White Phosphorus incendiary bombs against civilians and non-military targets. The United Nations investigated, but Israel refused to cooperate. In May 2010, Israel attacked an international aid flotilla bringing food and medical supplies to Gaza in international waters. 9 people were murdered including an American from New York.

In the same period of time, the United States, officially a secular nation but predominantly Christian, attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009), Haiti (2010), etc. etc. etc. etc.

So, who is the danger to world peace?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/


InvictusV's photo
Tue 02/07/12 03:30 PM

Since the 1979 Iranian revolution and the downfall of the US Puppet Ruler the Shah, Iran has been an Islamic state. In that interval of time, 1979 to the present, Iran has not invaded anyone. Not once. People of all religions live in peace in Iran, even Jews, who find life so comfortable in Iran they refused an offer by the government of Israel to emigrate!

In the same period of time, Israel, a self-declared Jewish state, attacked Iraq in 1981, bombing the power station at Osirik, claiming it was a clandestine weapons factory. Subsequent examination of the ruins following the 2003 invasion proved Israel had lied. In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. This led to the Massacres at Sabra and Shatilla. In February 2003 Israel staged incursions into Gaza and Nablus. In September 2007 Israel bombed Syria, again insisting they were destroying a clandestine weapons laboratory. Again there was no evidence to support Israel's claims. In 2006, Israel attacked Lebanon, killing 1200, mostly civilians, several UN observers, and littering the landscape with land mines on their way out. In February 2008 Israel again raided Gaza, killing over 100. HAMAS agreed to a cease fire and kept it for 6 months until November 4, when Israel again attacked without warning, killing 6 HAMAS members, and launching operation CAST LEAD. 1300 Gazans, mostly civilians, were killed. Israel lost 13 soldiers. Violations of international law included the use of White Phosphorus incendiary bombs against civilians and non-military targets. The United Nations investigated, but Israel refused to cooperate. In May 2010, Israel attacked an international aid flotilla bringing food and medical supplies to Gaza in international waters. 9 people were murdered including an American from New York.

In the same period of time, the United States, officially a secular nation but predominantly Christian, attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009), Haiti (2010), etc. etc. etc. etc.

So, who is the danger to world peace?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/




I am curious as to what criteria was used to determine what an "attack" is..


Bestinshow's photo
Tue 02/07/12 03:40 PM



Why bother comment on a misquote?
'cause it came from you!laugh
And Noam is famous for it!


I love Noam Chomsky..drinker drinker drinker

shook his hand you know

Noam and I are buddies...drinker drinker drinker
Your a lucky man I am sure future historians will cite his writeings and declare him one of the wisest men of our time.

s1owhand's photo
Tue 02/07/12 04:38 PM
Actually Iran is arguably the world's worst state sponsor of
the killing of innocent men, women and children and they publicly
threaten genocide.

The threat from Iran is real and that is why the world community
is united in their resolve to prevent such a regime from getting
nuclear weapons capabilities.

http://youtu.be/mXRXnmsvwRQ

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 02/07/12 08:55 PM


Since the 1979 Iranian revolution and the downfall of the US Puppet Ruler the Shah, Iran has been an Islamic state. In that interval of time, 1979 to the present, Iran has not invaded anyone. Not once. People of all religions live in peace in Iran, even Jews, who find life so comfortable in Iran they refused an offer by the government of Israel to emigrate!

In the same period of time, Israel, a self-declared Jewish state, attacked Iraq in 1981, bombing the power station at Osirik, claiming it was a clandestine weapons factory. Subsequent examination of the ruins following the 2003 invasion proved Israel had lied. In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. This led to the Massacres at Sabra and Shatilla. In February 2003 Israel staged incursions into Gaza and Nablus. In September 2007 Israel bombed Syria, again insisting they were destroying a clandestine weapons laboratory. Again there was no evidence to support Israel's claims. In 2006, Israel attacked Lebanon, killing 1200, mostly civilians, several UN observers, and littering the landscape with land mines on their way out. In February 2008 Israel again raided Gaza, killing over 100. HAMAS agreed to a cease fire and kept it for 6 months until November 4, when Israel again attacked without warning, killing 6 HAMAS members, and launching operation CAST LEAD. 1300 Gazans, mostly civilians, were killed. Israel lost 13 soldiers. Violations of international law included the use of White Phosphorus incendiary bombs against civilians and non-military targets. The United Nations investigated, but Israel refused to cooperate. In May 2010, Israel attacked an international aid flotilla bringing food and medical supplies to Gaza in international waters. 9 people were murdered including an American from New York.

In the same period of time, the United States, officially a secular nation but predominantly Christian, attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009), Haiti (2010), etc. etc. etc. etc.

So, who is the danger to world peace?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/




I am curious as to what criteria was used to determine what an "attack" is..



As am I.

I must correct something. Syria's problems are a direct result of the visit of Iran by warship. It sorta made the People of Syria sit up and take notice.

As far as peacfull intentions after the fall of the Shah.
After the seizure and diversion of the ACTUAL protesters against the Shah by the Mullahs of Iran. Iran promptly entered a War with Iraq.

over land neither of them owned.

and thousands (perhaps more) KURDS died. (because they lived where Iran wanted to rule).

There is more.

Iran is ruled by hatred. Permission to get an education is denied a large part of its population simply because of their religion.

Business are raided based upon narrow religious bigotry.

At least one religion (with its tennants being peace and oneness) is treated there in the same manner as Hitler treated the Jews when he came to power in Germany.

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Wed 02/08/12 01:24 PM



Since the 1979 Iranian revolution and the downfall of the US Puppet Ruler the Shah, Iran has been an Islamic state. In that interval of time, 1979 to the present, Iran has not invaded anyone. Not once. People of all religions live in peace in Iran, even Jews, who find life so comfortable in Iran they refused an offer by the government of Israel to emigrate!

In the same period of time, Israel, a self-declared Jewish state, attacked Iraq in 1981, bombing the power station at Osirik, claiming it was a clandestine weapons factory. Subsequent examination of the ruins following the 2003 invasion proved Israel had lied. In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. This led to the Massacres at Sabra and Shatilla. In February 2003 Israel staged incursions into Gaza and Nablus. In September 2007 Israel bombed Syria, again insisting they were destroying a clandestine weapons laboratory. Again there was no evidence to support Israel's claims. In 2006, Israel attacked Lebanon, killing 1200, mostly civilians, several UN observers, and littering the landscape with land mines on their way out. In February 2008 Israel again raided Gaza, killing over 100. HAMAS agreed to a cease fire and kept it for 6 months until November 4, when Israel again attacked without warning, killing 6 HAMAS members, and launching operation CAST LEAD. 1300 Gazans, mostly civilians, were killed. Israel lost 13 soldiers. Violations of international law included the use of White Phosphorus incendiary bombs against civilians and non-military targets. The United Nations investigated, but Israel refused to cooperate. In May 2010, Israel attacked an international aid flotilla bringing food and medical supplies to Gaza in international waters. 9 people were murdered including an American from New York.

In the same period of time, the United States, officially a secular nation but predominantly Christian, attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009), Haiti (2010), etc. etc. etc. etc.

So, who is the danger to world peace?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/




I am curious as to what criteria was used to determine what an "attack" is..



As am I.

I must correct something. Syria's problems are a direct result of the visit of Iran by warship. It sorta made the People of Syria sit up and take notice.

As far as peacfull intentions after the fall of the Shah.
After the seizure and diversion of the ACTUAL protesters against the Shah by the Mullahs of Iran. Iran promptly entered a War with Iraq.

over land neither of them owned.

and thousands (perhaps more) KURDS died. (because they lived where Iran wanted to rule).

There is more.

Iran is ruled by hatred. Permission to get an education is denied a large part of its population simply because of their religion.

Business are raided based upon narrow religious bigotry.

At least one religion (with its tennants being peace and oneness) is treated there in the same manner as Hitler treated the Jews when he came to power in Germany.
I think Iraq at our urging attacked Iran after all at that time the Saddam was a US stooge.

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Wed 02/08/12 01:28 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 02/08/12 01:29 PM




Since the 1979 Iranian revolution and the downfall of the US Puppet Ruler the Shah, Iran has been an Islamic state. In that interval of time, 1979 to the present, Iran has not invaded anyone. Not once. People of all religions live in peace in Iran, even Jews, who find life so comfortable in Iran they refused an offer by the government of Israel to emigrate!

In the same period of time, Israel, a self-declared Jewish state, attacked Iraq in 1981, bombing the power station at Osirik, claiming it was a clandestine weapons factory. Subsequent examination of the ruins following the 2003 invasion proved Israel had lied. In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. This led to the Massacres at Sabra and Shatilla. In February 2003 Israel staged incursions into Gaza and Nablus. In September 2007 Israel bombed Syria, again insisting they were destroying a clandestine weapons laboratory. Again there was no evidence to support Israel's claims. In 2006, Israel attacked Lebanon, killing 1200, mostly civilians, several UN observers, and littering the landscape with land mines on their way out. In February 2008 Israel again raided Gaza, killing over 100. HAMAS agreed to a cease fire and kept it for 6 months until November 4, when Israel again attacked without warning, killing 6 HAMAS members, and launching operation CAST LEAD. 1300 Gazans, mostly civilians, were killed. Israel lost 13 soldiers. Violations of international law included the use of White Phosphorus incendiary bombs against civilians and non-military targets. The United Nations investigated, but Israel refused to cooperate. In May 2010, Israel attacked an international aid flotilla bringing food and medical supplies to Gaza in international waters. 9 people were murdered including an American from New York.

In the same period of time, the United States, officially a secular nation but predominantly Christian, attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009), Haiti (2010), etc. etc. etc. etc.

So, who is the danger to world peace?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/




I am curious as to what criteria was used to determine what an "attack" is..



As am I.

I must correct something. Syria's problems are a direct result of the visit of Iran by warship. It sorta made the People of Syria sit up and take notice.

As far as peacfull intentions after the fall of the Shah.
After the seizure and diversion of the ACTUAL protesters against the Shah by the Mullahs of Iran. Iran promptly entered a War with Iraq.

over land neither of them owned.

and thousands (perhaps more) KURDS died. (because they lived where Iran wanted to rule).

There is more.

Iran is ruled by hatred. Permission to get an education is denied a large part of its population simply because of their religion.

Business are raided based upon narrow religious bigotry.

At least one religion (with its tennants being peace and oneness) is treated there in the same manner as Hitler treated the Jews when he came to power in Germany.
I think Iraq at our urging attacked Iran after all at that time the Saddam was a US stooge.
laugh
Actually Saddam was a Client of Russia,with Russian Weapons!

:laughing: Regardless of what you think!

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Wed 02/08/12 01:42 PM
Just For Info


Imported weapons to Iraq (IRQ) in 1973-2002

Country $MM USD 1990 % Total
USSR 25145 57.26
France 5595 12.74
China 5192 11.82
Czechoslovakia 2880 6.56
Poland 1681 3.83
Brazil 724 1.65
Egypt 568 1.29
Romania 524 1.19
Denmark 226 0.51
Libya 200 0.46
USA 200 0.46
South Africa 192 0.44
Austria 190 0.43
Switzerland 151 0.34
Yugoslavia 107 0.24
Germany (FRG) 84 0.19
Italy 84 0.19
UK 79 0.18
Hungary 30 0.07
Spain 29 0.07
East Germany (GDR) 25 0.06
Canada 7 0.02
Jordan 2 0.005
Total 43915 100.0

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