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Topic: which is more Violent, D BIBLE OR THE QUARAN
AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 01/31/12 11:07 PM




The Quran. Only because of Allah's influences, as in terrorism. It's taught many indians to become suicide bombers. It's not fair game, to be fair.


..true, but you both are forgetting about the Crusades.

The massacred thousands, mercilessly, in the name of the Bible.

Terrorism from the Qur'an is more recent in memory.
..but the Crusaders have their bloody shining moment too.

Plus, the Nazis--

Jews killed Jesus, remember?

Hitler used this 'fact' to create the Holocaust.


I'm not going to get into the subject of the crusades other than to say this: The Crusades began only after most of the Christian world had been forcefully converted to Islam. When the Muslim armies were marching into Europe, simple people formed an army to drive them back. The first crusade was without a doubt purely self defense. Later crusades are definitely debatable, but the first crusade is the only reason you aren't a Muslim right now.

As for the Nazis, Hitler had nothing but contempt for Christians and Christianity. He admired Islam and encouraged Nazis to convert.


Huh.

Didn't know that last part.

I just know the bible or maybe now the Qur'an was one of the main principles behind the drive to exterminate the Jews. Come to think of it, that would make more sense because don't Islams have an issue with the Jewish?

And, regardless of the Crusade outcome, I'd still not believe wholly and fully in either.

It is not the book that brings violence.

Rather is it the people that read them.

The only reason why Islam has problem with the Jew is because of a false translation in the third century after Mohmahad.

For political reasons the 'enemy' behind the tree was translated to 'Jew'.

So now when the very tree warns of an enemy lurking near...

Islam hears not because it is looking for a 'jew' there.

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Wed 02/01/12 12:49 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 02/01/12 12:51 AM





The Quran. Only because of Allah's influences, as in terrorism. It's taught many indians to become suicide bombers. It's not fair game, to be fair.


..true, but you both are forgetting about the Crusades.

The massacred thousands, mercilessly, in the name of the Bible.

Terrorism from the Qur'an is more recent in memory.
..but the Crusaders have their bloody shining moment too.

Plus, the Nazis--

Jews killed Jesus, remember?

Hitler used this 'fact' to create the Holocaust.


I'm not going to get into the subject of the crusades other than to say this: The Crusades began only after most of the Christian world had been forcefully converted to Islam. When the Muslim armies were marching into Europe, simple people formed an army to drive them back. The first crusade was without a doubt purely self defense. Later crusades are definitely debatable, but the first crusade is the only reason you aren't a Muslim right now.

As for the Nazis, Hitler had nothing but contempt for Christians and Christianity. He admired Islam and encouraged Nazis to convert.


Huh.

Didn't know that last part.

I just know the bible or maybe now the Qur'an was one of the main principles behind the drive to exterminate the Jews. Come to think of it, that would make more sense because don't Islams have an issue with the Jewish?

And, regardless of the Crusade outcome, I'd still not believe wholly and fully in either.

It is not the book that brings violence.

Rather is it the people that read them.

The only reason why Islam has problem with the Jew is because of a false translation in the third century after Mohmahad.

For political reasons the 'enemy' behind the tree was translated to 'Jew'.

So now when the very tree warns of an enemy lurking near...

Islam hears not because it is looking for a 'jew' there.
The Translation sure suits Hamas well,since they incorporated into their Charter!
So it matters little whether it is a mis-Translation or literal.

And the Qurayza-Massacre of Jews by Mohamed apparently didn't take place either?

That Guy basically had problems with everyone who didn't bow to his Edicts!
Nope,that "Mis-Translation" served someone real well!

And still does!

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Wed 02/01/12 03:14 AM






The Quran. Only because of Allah's influences, as in terrorism. It's taught many indians to become suicide bombers. It's not fair game, to be fair.


..true, but you both are forgetting about the Crusades.

The massacred thousands, mercilessly, in the name of the Bible.

Terrorism from the Qur'an is more recent in memory.
..but the Crusaders have their bloody shining moment too.

Plus, the Nazis--

Jews killed Jesus, remember?

Hitler used this 'fact' to create the Holocaust.


I'm not going to get into the subject of the crusades other than to say this: The Crusades began only after most of the Christian world had been forcefully converted to Islam. When the Muslim armies were marching into Europe, simple people formed an army to drive them back. The first crusade was without a doubt purely self defense. Later crusades are definitely debatable, but the first crusade is the only reason you aren't a Muslim right now.

As for the Nazis, Hitler had nothing but contempt for Christians and Christianity. He admired Islam and encouraged Nazis to convert.


Huh.

Didn't know that last part.

I just know the bible or maybe now the Qur'an was one of the main principles behind the drive to exterminate the Jews. Come to think of it, that would make more sense because don't Islams have an issue with the Jewish?

And, regardless of the Crusade outcome, I'd still not believe wholly and fully in either.

It is not the book that brings violence.

Rather is it the people that read them.

The only reason why Islam has problem with the Jew is because of a false translation in the third century after Mohmahad.

For political reasons the 'enemy' behind the tree was translated to 'Jew'.

So now when the very tree warns of an enemy lurking near...

Islam hears not because it is looking for a 'jew' there.
The Translation sure suits Hamas well,since they incorporated into their Charter!
So it matters little whether it is a mis-Translation or literal.

And the Qurayza-Massacre of Jews by Mohamed apparently didn't take place either?

That Guy basically had problems with everyone who didn't bow to his Edicts!
Nope,that "Mis-Translation" served someone real well!

And still does!


Yes!...And it really matters when people say it does not matter!!!frustrated

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 02/01/12 08:29 PM






The Quran. Only because of Allah's influences, as in terrorism. It's taught many indians to become suicide bombers. It's not fair game, to be fair.


..true, but you both are forgetting about the Crusades.

The massacred thousands, mercilessly, in the name of the Bible.

Terrorism from the Qur'an is more recent in memory.
..but the Crusaders have their bloody shining moment too.

Plus, the Nazis--

Jews killed Jesus, remember?

Hitler used this 'fact' to create the Holocaust.


I'm not going to get into the subject of the crusades other than to say this: The Crusades began only after most of the Christian world had been forcefully converted to Islam. When the Muslim armies were marching into Europe, simple people formed an army to drive them back. The first crusade was without a doubt purely self defense. Later crusades are definitely debatable, but the first crusade is the only reason you aren't a Muslim right now.

As for the Nazis, Hitler had nothing but contempt for Christians and Christianity. He admired Islam and encouraged Nazis to convert.


Huh.

Didn't know that last part.

I just know the bible or maybe now the Qur'an was one of the main principles behind the drive to exterminate the Jews. Come to think of it, that would make more sense because don't Islams have an issue with the Jewish?

And, regardless of the Crusade outcome, I'd still not believe wholly and fully in either.

It is not the book that brings violence.

Rather is it the people that read them.

The only reason why Islam has problem with the Jew is because of a false translation in the third century after Mohmahad.

For political reasons the 'enemy' behind the tree was translated to 'Jew'.

So now when the very tree warns of an enemy lurking near...

Islam hears not because it is looking for a 'jew' there.
The Translation sure suits Hamas well,since they incorporated into their Charter!
So it matters little whether it is a mis-Translation or literal.

And the Qurayza-Massacre of Jews by Mohamed apparently didn't take place either?

That Guy basically had problems with everyone who didn't bow to his Edicts!
Nope,that "Mis-Translation" served someone real well!

And still does!

Ah but you see...

Islam has a history much like Christianity.

As Christianity did at Nicean Council so also did Islam.

What came after the meddling of men was 'official' and all else destroyed. (strange that in each case the time of 'Advent' to the time of meddling is roughly 300 years - perhaps a 'cycle of man')

One is left wondering if 'that guy' refered to above actually made those 'edicts'...

Or the Council assigned them to further political realites...

and gave poison to any that objected.


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