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Topic: ACTION NEEDED! LIBERTY IS AT STAKE!!!
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Wed 12/21/11 06:32 AM

WARNING... The messenger in this video does not mince words. But he sure has a point! Don't you think? If explicit language offends you , this is not for you. This young man did his homework..

http://www.care2.com/news/member/101960828/3047642

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Wed 12/21/11 06:47 AM
Watch this video!!

drinker

I think this guy should be president.:wink:

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Wed 12/21/11 06:53 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 12/21/11 06:58 AM

Do we remember these? Obviously our Gov't and Legislature doesn't.... or thinks we have forgotten......

Amendment 6
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment 8
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

These ain’t guidelines, folks. I’m generally pretty moderate, but these bills tend to strike fear into the hearts of people. That fear becomes a tool by which the government rules.

They are using "terrorism" to invoke fear, to promote wars, bankrupt the economy, and undermine our constitution and sovereignty!

“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

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Wed 12/21/11 06:59 AM
Yet we have open borders ...

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Wed 12/21/11 07:04 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 12/21/11 07:29 AM
Things like THIS make "Crazy Uncle RON", MOST DEFINATELY, the sharpest tack in the box!

Power currupts absolutely!!!!

He is the ONLY candidate running on principles of consistency and constitutional rights!

RON PAUL 2012 RESTORE OUR REPUBLIC! FREEDOM TO THE PEOPLE!!

In a state of tranquillity, wealth, and luxury, our descendants would forget the arts of war* and the noble activity and zeal which made their ancestors invincible. Every art of corruption would be employed to loosen the bond of union which renders our resistance formidable. When the spirit of liberty, which now animates our hearts and gives success to our arms*, is extinct, our numbers will accelerate our ruin and render us easier victims to tyranny. If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom—go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!

Samuel Adams

* Note that Adams and the Founding Fathers believed they were engaged in a defensive war against tyranny.


Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Thomas Jefferson


drinker :banana: drinker

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Wed 12/21/11 07:06 AM
I guess we have tyranny or are on the brink of it.

The fact that these laws are illegal and yet have to be put into practice and challenged is the scary part. And they can't be challenged because when people just disappear, there is no evidence, and no paperwork etc.

It's probably a good thing everyone is armed with cell phones that can shoot videos.

In the future, people should probably carry recording devices and weapons for protection from government kidnapping.




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Wed 12/21/11 07:07 AM

Yet we have open borders ...


How right you are my friend.... and as you see, I took your advice bigsmile

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Wed 12/21/11 07:42 AM


..i use to believe in the American dream..but then i woke up ~tombbraider

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Wed 12/21/11 10:01 AM
This is not good not good at all.mad

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Wed 12/21/11 10:12 AM
This kind of illegal law and government ultimate power will be combined with the equally absurd process of martial law.

In a state of martial law, we lose all freedoms. The government becomes all powerful. Any election is canceled. (sorry Ron Paul, you will probably disappear)

The current president can easily become dictator of the world. With this law, it is guaranteed. Perhaps Obama knows this. ?

I half expected Bush to be the one to declare martial law.

2012 is here. Some people believe this date is a deadline of some kind for the elite who own the world. This next year may be very enlightening.












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Wed 12/21/11 10:18 AM
laugh

I send an email to Obama, and this thread suddenly appears!

Perhaps if enough people emailed Obama over this bill, he would reverse his decision and veto the bill.

www.whitehouse.gov/contact

It can't hurt. Whether it makes a difference, we'll never know unless people try.

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Wed 12/21/11 10:18 AM

laugh

I send an email to Obama, and this thread suddenly appears!

Perhaps if enough people emailed Obama over this bill, he would reverse his decision and veto the bill.

www.whitehouse.gov/contact

It can't hurt. Whether it makes a difference, we'll never know unless people try.


I doubt it. His dictatorship depends on it.


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Wed 12/21/11 10:19 AM
Can someone find and publish a list of congressmen who voted to pass this?

I can do something with a list like that.

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Wed 12/21/11 10:22 AM


laugh

I send an email to Obama, and this thread suddenly appears!

Perhaps if enough people emailed Obama over this bill, he would reverse his decision and veto the bill.

www.whitehouse.gov/contact

It can't hurt. Whether it makes a difference, we'll never know unless people try.


I doubt it. His dictatorship depends on it.




That's a defeatist attitude.

If you wait for the election, it will be too late. If you wait a week, it may be too late. This is something you can do today. If he signs it anyway, then you can at least say you tried to stop him. Otherwise, you have no one to blame but yourself for allowing it to become law.

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Wed 12/21/11 10:25 AM
Senate votes:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2011-218

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Wed 12/21/11 10:29 AM
House of Reps. votes:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011-375

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Wed 12/21/11 10:31 AM



laugh

I send an email to Obama, and this thread suddenly appears!

Perhaps if enough people emailed Obama over this bill, he would reverse his decision and veto the bill.

www.whitehouse.gov/contact

It can't hurt. Whether it makes a difference, we'll never know unless people try.


I doubt it. His dictatorship depends on it.




That's a defeatist attitude.

If you wait for the election, it will be too late. If you wait a week, it may be too late. This is something you can do today. If he signs it anyway, then you can at least say you tried to stop him. Otherwise, you have no one to blame but yourself for allowing it to become law.


Perhaps it is a "defeatist" attitude. Its no skin off my nose to send an email. Would it do any good? I highly doubt it and I doubt if anyone will even read it.

I'm realistic enough to know that they don't give a rats butt about what the people/public think at this point. There is a plan in place that has been in place for a very long time.

The only reason a bill like this would have been written is to give ultimate power to the last president.




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Wed 12/21/11 10:35 AM
Well, only one Rep. from CT voted for it, it just happens to be MY Rep. grumble

And then BOTH Senators from CT voted for it, almost like they were just along for the ride. explode

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Wed 12/21/11 10:40 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 12/21/11 10:48 AM
I fired off emails IMMEDIATELY, even before the revision, and more afterwards!

THIS BILL MUST BE STOPPED! :angry: mad explode grumble rant frustrated
scared

RON PAUL....again the single "nay" vote.... in Texas

I also see it is time for a change in the Florida legislature....rant

Thx for posting the contact sites action...drinker

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Wed 12/21/11 10:47 AM
Sojourning_Soul,

Did you get any response? From a real person?

What did you say in the emails?


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