Topic: Gingrich fuels more Mideast conflict
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Sat 12/10/11 06:23 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/gingrich-fuels-more-mideast-conflict-palestinians-125812009.html

Gingrich fuels more Mideast conflict: Palestinians
By Tom Perry | Reuters – 1 hr 1 min ago

RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - Palestinian leaders said on Saturday U.S. Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich had invited more conflict in the Middle East by calling the Palestinians an "invented" people who want to destroy Israel.

Saeb Erekat, a senior Palestinian official, described his comments in an interview as "despicable." Hanan Ashrawi, another top official, said Gingrich's "very racist comments" showed he was "incapable of holding public office."

"This is the lowest point of thinking anyone can reach," Erekat, a close advisor to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, told Reuters. Such comments served only to "increase the cycle of violence," he added.

"What is the cause of violence, war in this region? Denial, denying people their religion, their existence, and now he is denying our existence," said Erekat, for years a leading figure in peace talks aimed at the creation of a Palestinian state alongside Israel.

In an interview on Friday with the Jewish Channel, Gingrich predictably sided with Israel in its conflict with the Palestinians, who are seeking a state of their own on land occupied by Israel in a 1967 war.

But the former speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives departed from official U.S. policy that respects the Palestinians as a people deserving of their own state based on negotiations with Israel.

"Remember, there was no Palestine as a state. It was part of the Ottoman Empire" until the early 20th century, said Gingrich, who has risen to the top of Republican polls with voting to start early next year to pick a nominee to challenge Democratic President Barack Obama in the November 2012 election.

NO "CONTRIBUTION TO PEACE"

"I think that we've had an invented Palestinian people who are in fact Arabs, and who were historically part of the Arab community. And they had a chance to go many places, and for a variety of political reasons we have sustained this war against Israel now since the 1940s, and it's tragic," he said.

There are around 11 million Palestinians around the world, Palestinian officials say. They include refugees and their descendants who left or were forced to flee their homes during the 1948 war that led to the creation of Israel. More than 4 million of them live in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

The 1948 war erupted after Arab states rejected a U.N. plan that would have divided British mandate-ruled Palestine into Arab and Jewish states.

Gingrich along with other Republican candidates are seeking to attract Jewish support by vowing to bolster U.S. ties with Israel if elected.

He said both the Hamas militant group, which controls the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinian Authority, which receives financial backing from the United States, represent "an enormous desire to destroy Israel."

While Hamas remains committed to armed "resistance" and will not recognize Israel, the Palestinian Authority based in Ramallah states that only peaceful means can deliver Palestinian statehood and its security forces cooperate with Israel.

Ashrawi, a member of the Palestine Liberation Organisation Executive Committee, said Gingrich's remarks harked back to days when the Palestinians' existence as a people was denied by Israelis such as Golda Meir, prime minister from 1969 to 1974.

"It is certainly regressive," she said. "This is certainly an invitation to further conflict rather than any contribution to peace."

"This proves that in the hysterical atmosphere of American elections, people lose all touch with reality and make not just irresponsible and dangerous statements, but also very racist comments that betray not just their own ignorance but an unforgivable bias," she said.

Fawzi Barhoum, a Hamas spokesman in Gaza, said the Gingrich remarks "were grave comments that represented an incitement for ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians."


Conrad_73's photo
Sat 12/10/11 06:39 AM


http://news.yahoo.com/gingrich-fuels-more-mideast-conflict-palestinians-125812009.html

Gingrich fuels more Mideast conflict: Palestinians
By Tom Perry | Reuters – 1 hr 1 min ago

RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - Palestinian leaders said on Saturday U.S. Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich had invited more conflict in the Middle East by calling the Palestinians an "invented" people who want to destroy Israel.

Saeb Erekat, a senior Palestinian official, described his comments in an interview as "despicable." Hanan Ashrawi, another top official, said Gingrich's "very racist comments" showed he was "incapable of holding public office."

"This is the lowest point of thinking anyone can reach," Erekat, a close advisor to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, told Reuters. Such comments served only to "increase the cycle of violence," he added.

"What is the cause of violence, war in this region? Denial, denying people their religion, their existence, and now he is denying our existence," said Erekat, for years a leading figure in peace talks aimed at the creation of a Palestinian state alongside Israel.

In an interview on Friday with the Jewish Channel, Gingrich predictably sided with Israel in its conflict with the Palestinians, who are seeking a state of their own on land occupied by Israel in a 1967 war.

But the former speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives departed from official U.S. policy that respects the Palestinians as a people deserving of their own state based on negotiations with Israel.

"Remember, there was no Palestine as a state. It was part of the Ottoman Empire" until the early 20th century, said Gingrich, who has risen to the top of Republican polls with voting to start early next year to pick a nominee to challenge Democratic President Barack Obama in the November 2012 election.

NO "CONTRIBUTION TO PEACE"

"I think that we've had an invented Palestinian people who are in fact Arabs, and who were historically part of the Arab community. And they had a chance to go many places, and for a variety of political reasons we have sustained this war against Israel now since the 1940s, and it's tragic," he said.

There are around 11 million Palestinians around the world, Palestinian officials say. They include refugees and their descendants who left or were forced to flee their homes during the 1948 war that led to the creation of Israel. More than 4 million of them live in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

The 1948 war erupted after Arab states rejected a U.N. plan that would have divided British mandate-ruled Palestine into Arab and Jewish states.

Gingrich along with other Republican candidates are seeking to attract Jewish support by vowing to bolster U.S. ties with Israel if elected.

He said both the Hamas militant group, which controls the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinian Authority, which receives financial backing from the United States, represent "an enormous desire to destroy Israel."

While Hamas remains committed to armed "resistance" and will not recognize Israel, the Palestinian Authority based in Ramallah states that only peaceful means can deliver Palestinian statehood and its security forces cooperate with Israel.

Ashrawi, a member of the Palestine Liberation Organisation Executive Committee, said Gingrich's remarks harked back to days when the Palestinians' existence as a people was denied by Israelis such as Golda Meir, prime minister from 1969 to 1974.

"It is certainly regressive," she said. "This is certainly an invitation to further conflict rather than any contribution to peace."

"This proves that in the hysterical atmosphere of American elections, people lose all touch with reality and make not just irresponsible and dangerous statements, but also very racist comments that betray not just their own ignorance but an unforgivable bias," she said.

Fawzi Barhoum, a Hamas spokesman in Gaza, said the Gingrich remarks "were grave comments that represented an incitement for ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians."


Pretty stark,coming from Hamas!:laughing:

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sat 12/10/11 06:51 AM


Anything against Isreal comes from Hamas, just like anything about 9/11 comes from "tin hat" wearers. The Kennedy mystery bullet... that was Hamas too?

I'm not getting caught up in the BS. I have my views, but predjudice on both sides prevents a logical debate on the issue.

Done with that debate, thank you.

The OP was about the bigot Mr.Gutwretch, and his profiteering, warmongering flip-flop for votes.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 12/10/11 06:55 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 12/10/11 07:09 AM



Anything against Isreal comes from Hamas, just like anything about 9/11 comes from "tin hat" wearers. The Kennedy mystery bullet... that was Hamas too?

I'm not getting caught up in the BS. I have my views, but predjudice on both sides prevents a logical debate on the issue.

Done with that debate, thank you.

The OP was about the bigot Mr.Gutwretch, and his profiteering, warmongering flip-flop for votes.
well,the >Kennedy "Mystery-Bullet" has just been explained again!
Was apparently because the Backseats of the Limo were higher than the Frontseats!bigsmile


Got to factor in PA and Hamas,was them commenting after all!
Sort of the Pots calling the Kettle Black!


Besides,it would definitely not be in their interest to have someone in DC who is pro Israel!

They'd probably prefer David Duke,or wishy-washy Obama in another term!

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 12/10/11 07:56 AM


http://news.yahoo.com/gingrich-fuels-more-mideast-conflict-palestinians-125812009.html

Gingrich fuels more Mideast conflict: Palestinians
By Tom Perry | Reuters – 1 hr 1 min ago

RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - Palestinian leaders said on Saturday U.S. Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich had invited more conflict in the Middle East by calling the Palestinians an "invented" people who want to destroy Israel.

Saeb Erekat, a senior Palestinian official, described his comments in an interview as "despicable." Hanan Ashrawi, another top official, said Gingrich's "very racist comments" showed he was "incapable of holding public office."

"This is the lowest point of thinking anyone can reach," Erekat, a close advisor to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, told Reuters. Such comments served only to "increase the cycle of violence," he added.

"What is the cause of violence, war in this region? Denial, denying people their religion, their existence, and now he is denying our existence," said Erekat, for years a leading figure in peace talks aimed at the creation of a Palestinian state alongside Israel.

In an interview on Friday with the Jewish Channel, Gingrich predictably sided with Israel in its conflict with the Palestinians, who are seeking a state of their own on land occupied by Israel in a 1967 war.

But the former speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives departed from official U.S. policy that respects the Palestinians as a people deserving of their own state based on negotiations with Israel.

"Remember, there was no Palestine as a state. It was part of the Ottoman Empire" until the early 20th century, said Gingrich, who has risen to the top of Republican polls with voting to start early next year to pick a nominee to challenge Democratic President Barack Obama in the November 2012 election.

NO "CONTRIBUTION TO PEACE"

"I think that we've had an invented Palestinian people who are in fact Arabs, and who were historically part of the Arab community. And they had a chance to go many places, and for a variety of political reasons we have sustained this war against Israel now since the 1940s, and it's tragic," he said.

There are around 11 million Palestinians around the world, Palestinian officials say. They include refugees and their descendants who left or were forced to flee their homes during the 1948 war that led to the creation of Israel. More than 4 million of them live in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

The 1948 war erupted after Arab states rejected a U.N. plan that would have divided British mandate-ruled Palestine into Arab and Jewish states.

Gingrich along with other Republican candidates are seeking to attract Jewish support by vowing to bolster U.S. ties with Israel if elected.

He said both the Hamas militant group, which controls the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinian Authority, which receives financial backing from the United States, represent "an enormous desire to destroy Israel."

While Hamas remains committed to armed "resistance" and will not recognize Israel, the Palestinian Authority based in Ramallah states that only peaceful means can deliver Palestinian statehood and its security forces cooperate with Israel.

Ashrawi, a member of the Palestine Liberation Organisation Executive Committee, said Gingrich's remarks harked back to days when the Palestinians' existence as a people was denied by Israelis such as Golda Meir, prime minister from 1969 to 1974.

"It is certainly regressive," she said. "This is certainly an invitation to further conflict rather than any contribution to peace."

"This proves that in the hysterical atmosphere of American elections, people lose all touch with reality and make not just irresponsible and dangerous statements, but also very racist comments that betray not just their own ignorance but an unforgivable bias," she said.

Fawzi Barhoum, a Hamas spokesman in Gaza, said the Gingrich remarks "were grave comments that represented an incitement for ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians."


Republicans thrive on fear, they have to keep us afraid.

Ironic isnt it with the trillions spent on defence this country is full of cowards.

Notice how when Newt had chance to serve his country in Vietnam he chickenhwaked out.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 12/10/11 08:15 AM




Anything against Isreal comes from Hamas, just like anything about 9/11 comes from "tin hat" wearers. The Kennedy mystery bullet... that was Hamas too?

I'm not getting caught up in the BS. I have my views, but predjudice on both sides prevents a logical debate on the issue.

Done with that debate, thank you.

The OP was about the bigot Mr.Gutwretch, and his profiteering, warmongering flip-flop for votes.
well,the >Kennedy "Mystery-Bullet" has just been explained again!
Was apparently because the Backseats of the Limo were higher than the Frontseats!bigsmile


Got to factor in PA and Hamas,was them commenting after all!
Sort of the Pots calling the Kettle Black!


Besides,it would definitely not be in their interest to have someone in DC who is pro Israel!

They'd probably prefer David Duke,or wishy-washy Obama in another term!

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 12/10/11 08:33 AM





Anything against Isreal comes from Hamas, just like anything about 9/11 comes from "tin hat" wearers. The Kennedy mystery bullet... that was Hamas too?

I'm not getting caught up in the BS. I have my views, but predjudice on both sides prevents a logical debate on the issue.

Done with that debate, thank you.

The OP was about the bigot Mr.Gutwretch, and his profiteering, warmongering flip-flop for votes.
well,the >Kennedy "Mystery-Bullet" has just been explained again!
Was apparently because the Backseats of the Limo were higher than the Frontseats!bigsmile


Got to factor in PA and Hamas,was them commenting after all!
Sort of the Pots calling the Kettle Black!


Besides,it would definitely not be in their interest to have someone in DC who is pro Israel!

They'd probably prefer David Duke,or wishy-washy Obama in another term!

Its not in Americas interest to have someone who is pro Israel.

Israel takes our money and then turns around and spies on us and manipulates our politics.

Israel is no friend of americas no doubt about that.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 12/10/11 08:35 AM




Anything against Isreal comes from Hamas, just like anything about 9/11 comes from "tin hat" wearers. The Kennedy mystery bullet... that was Hamas too?

I'm not getting caught up in the BS. I have my views, but predjudice on both sides prevents a logical debate on the issue.

Done with that debate, thank you.

The OP was about the bigot Mr.Gutwretch, and his profiteering, warmongering flip-flop for votes.
well,the >Kennedy "Mystery-Bullet" has just been explained again!
Was apparently because the Backseats of the Limo were higher than the Frontseats!bigsmile


Got to factor in PA and Hamas,was them commenting after all!
Sort of the Pots calling the Kettle Black!


Besides,it would definitely not be in their interest to have someone in DC who is pro Israel!

They'd probably prefer David Duke,or wishy-washy Obama in another term!

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 12/10/11 08:39 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 12/10/11 08:42 AM






Anything against Isreal comes from Hamas, just like anything about 9/11 comes from "tin hat" wearers. The Kennedy mystery bullet... that was Hamas too?

I'm not getting caught up in the BS. I have my views, but predjudice on both sides prevents a logical debate on the issue.

Done with that debate, thank you.

The OP was about the bigot Mr.Gutwretch, and his profiteering, warmongering flip-flop for votes.
well,the >Kennedy "Mystery-Bullet" has just been explained again!
Was apparently because the Backseats of the Limo were higher than the Frontseats!bigsmile


Got to factor in PA and Hamas,was them commenting after all!
Sort of the Pots calling the Kettle Black!


Besides,it would definitely not be in their interest to have someone in DC who is pro Israel!

They'd probably prefer David Duke,or wishy-washy Obama in another term!

Its not in Americas interest to have someone who is pro Israel.

Israel takes our money and then turns around and spies on us and manipulates our politics.

Israel is no friend of americas no doubt about that.
Well,it's the best you can find in the ME!


It is mainly in your mind that Israel is the Enemy of America!
Check out some of the People contributing to the Sites you quote as Facts!:laughing:

Scratch them,and you'll find a Bunch of anti-Semites!

Not just anti-Zionists,nope actually dyed in the wool anti-Semites!



and I doubt if a few pro-Israel Remarks by Newton can in any way ascerbate the situation over there!:laughing:

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 12/10/11 08:50 AM
If I were a parent and america was my child and Israel was another child the advice would be pretty simple.

"America you know I love you but if you keep hanging around this kid Israel your only going to get in trouble. Israel keeps tkeing your money and your allways broke. Israel is allways getting into fights and dragging you into them, I know america you have asperations to be a model of the community but if you keep takeing Israels side your going to look retarded in the eyes of the community. Please do whats best for yourself and let israel get out of his own troubles and stop giveing him money"

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 12/10/11 09:02 AM

If I were a parent and america was my child and Israel was another child the advice would be pretty simple.

"America you know I love you but if you keep hanging around this kid Israel your only going to get in trouble. Israel keeps tkeing your money and your allways broke. Israel is allways getting into fights and dragging you into them, I know america you have asperations to be a model of the community but if you keep takeing Israels side your going to look retarded in the eyes of the community. Please do whats best for yourself and let israel get out of his own troubles and stop giveing him money"
But your Sixth Fleet sure likes that Deepwater Harbor on the Mediterranean!
Well,Russia or China would too!:laughing: