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Topic: How can life evolve from the non-living?
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Sat 10/29/11 01:12 AM

If the universe is not alive, how did it beget living creatures?

Where did the formula for life come from?

How does a living thing evolve from a non-living thing?

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Sat 10/29/11 04:19 AM
Everything is energy.......

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Sat 10/29/11 06:20 AM
Once you can accept the universe as being something expanding into an infinite nothing which is something, wearing stripes with plaid is easy.


Albert Einstein

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Sat 10/29/11 10:52 AM
Dark matter is alive. pitchfork

ITS ALIVE!


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Sat 10/29/11 12:34 PM


If the universe is not alive, how did it beget living creatures?

Where did the formula for life come from?

How does a living thing evolve from a non-living thing?


This is not necessarily my own personal view:

Life is a superconstruct, not an axiomatic entity.

Therefore "Where does life come from" is equivalent in life's formation and its origins to "Where do triangles come from?".

It's something that happened, and that's the best we can say. Why? How come? What for? Created by whom? To what end? are questions that are meaningless from a scientific point of view.

From a philosophical point of view... I don't know. I would never commit on this issue when I have my philosopher's hat on, unless some evidence comes up or is discovered.

For a sure-fire answer study any scripture of any religion, and you get your answers pronto.

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Sat 10/29/11 12:38 PM

Dark matter is alive.


It's an element, its name is Lugubrium, and its symbol is Lulu, after the Russian alchemist who discovered it in Middle Earth in the early thirteenth century.

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Sat 10/29/11 03:06 PM
What life is, and where it came from is the greatest mystery.

Life is a miracle.

Life is precious.


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Sat 10/29/11 03:12 PM


i don't know if you'll find this interesting or not, but it happened....

i treasure much in life, including life itself of all things, sometimes to the point of tears. i've seen many things i cannot explain, but one made me think, and think hard about everything...... i saw an inanimate ghost of an Art Deco three teired glass sconce lit up on the State Palace wall in New Orleans, that is still lit to this day, in the camera, but it's not on the wall, and hasn't been, probably since the 40's. the wall is flat. but the sconce is lit in the camera.... but.... it made me think about electricity....we really don't know what it is, even though we can capacitate it, regulate it, amplify it, resist it, and focus it, as well as speed it up....but we know nothing about it.....we know it runs everything on the planet to some degree, and other planets and suns, galaxies, and plasma in other realms....

in light to this......it occured to me....... ghosts of people are obvious, all over New Orleans, fact. but this.....this made me think..... this IS alive! so when i shut the light off, am i chopping a psuedo arm off??? am i killing something? it devastated me! i think all things are precious! (except mosquitos, but i understand them lol) but the magnitute hit me, and hit me hard...i didn't wanna hit another light switch! ever! but after a time, i realized that i had to. it was inevitable. others never understood, and they could never see through those veils to see what i saw....i still think of it from time to time. i'll eventually get out of my body again and just ask about it, or maybe i can actually ask it. i mean, things are different there. we can talk inter-species in local 2. you can talk to your past pets, so it might be possible to communicate with something such as this amazing power that be?

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Sat 10/29/11 03:21 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 10/29/11 03:23 PM
(except mosquitos, but i understand them lol)


A story of a mosquito. (TRUE)

One summer I discovered some kind of living creature in a can of water in my bathroom. It was moving around at the bottom of the can. I left it there to see what it would become.

One day I was in there and I watched as it floated to the top of the water surface and it transformed into a mosquito and sat there on the surface of the water.

I didn't do anything to it. I let it alone. I felt like it was my adopted child after having watched it being born.

Later I was laying on my bed and I felt something bite me. Instinctively I swatted it.

Then I felt bad. It was just junior coming to mama to suckle some blood. I killed my baby mosquito.sad


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Sat 10/29/11 03:25 PM
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Sat 10/29/11 06:21 PM
That is true.

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Sat 10/29/11 06:36 PM


If the universe is not alive, how did it beget living creatures?

Where did the formula for life come from?

How does a living thing evolve from a non-living thing?


We don't yet know, with certainty.

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Sat 10/29/11 07:44 PM
Any wild guesses?


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Sat 10/29/11 07:46 PM

Any wild guesses?




Self-replicating molecules seems an absolutely reasonable starting point to me.

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Sun 10/30/11 11:49 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 10/30/11 11:50 AM


Any wild guesses?




Self-replicating molecules seems an absolutely reasonable starting point to me.


I think things, and energy, when they get together, steal or share energy and information from each other.

To be self-replicating you have to have food, (energy) and information... the only thing I can think of for information is DNA, but I don't really know what DNA actually is.

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Sun 10/30/11 11:53 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 10/30/11 11:54 AM
An astronaut in 2003 did an experiment with salt and sugar granules inside of a bag in a weightless environment. This is where they actually learned how particles come together in space.

The grains of salt and sugar did not just float around randomly. They were clumping together. They decided that this was how planets formed out of debris in space.

I think we are surrounded by dark or invisible matter that effects things and is part of how gravity works.


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Sun 10/30/11 02:04 PM

Self-replicating molecules seems an absolutely reasonable starting point to me.




To be self-replicating you have to have food, (energy) and information... the only thing I can think of for information is DNA, but I don't really know what DNA actually is.


Depending on your point of view, you can argue that all molecules encode some level of 'information'. This is 'information' from the perspective of 'entropy', which may not be recognizable if you think of information as newspapers and books and such.


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Sun 10/30/11 02:11 PM

(except mosquitos, but i understand them lol)


A story of a mosquito. (TRUE)

One summer I discovered some kind of living creature in a can of water in my bathroom. It was moving around at the bottom of the can. I left it there to see what it would become.

One day I was in there and I watched as it floated to the top of the water surface and it transformed into a mosquito and sat there on the surface of the water.

I didn't do anything to it. I let it alone. I felt like it was my adopted child after having watched it being born.

Later I was laying on my bed and I felt something bite me. Instinctively I swatted it.

Then I felt bad. It was just junior coming to mama to suckle some blood. I killed my baby mosquito.sad


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just a side note here... only the female mosquitoes are blood suckers, the males do not...

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Sun 10/30/11 02:24 PM


(except mosquitos, but i understand them lol)


A story of a mosquito. (TRUE)

One summer I discovered some kind of living creature in a can of water in my bathroom. It was moving around at the bottom of the can. I left it there to see what it would become.

One day I was in there and I watched as it floated to the top of the water surface and it transformed into a mosquito and sat there on the surface of the water.

I didn't do anything to it. I let it alone. I felt like it was my adopted child after having watched it being born.

Later I was laying on my bed and I felt something bite me. Instinctively I swatted it.

Then I felt bad. It was just junior coming to mama to suckle some blood. I killed my baby mosquito.sad


laugh laugh laugh



just a side note here... only the female mosquitoes are blood suckers, the males do not...


AH! My baby mosquito was a girl!!


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Sun 10/30/11 11:09 PM

Any wild guesses?




I think it's poetry. A molecule sets out to write a loan application, and his wife walks in (the one with the same vanence but opposite in pH.). Molecule will write a cute poem to his wife, and that is the beginning of all life on earth.

Henry Thorough

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