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Fri 10/28/11 03:00 PM
Strange Bedfellows: Militias Exercise Their Second Amendment Rights To Protect Occupy Phoenix!
October 28, 2011
By Justin "Filthy Liberal Scum" Rosario

From Merriam-Webster.com:

Irony: Incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result.

Once upon a time, Right Wing outfits like Fox News and all of AM radio stoked the fears of conservatives that liberals were going to “take over” the country and put them all in “re-education camps.” Militias spread across the country like wildfire, suspicious of a “liberal” government that, so they were told, was poised to strip away all their rights at gunpoint.

It got so bad that wingnuts started showing up at conservative rallies openly carrying their guns in states where it was legal to do so. Of course, the Right Wing media celebrated this expression of their fundamental right to bear arms because it was directed against the Obama administration which has done exactly nothing to warrant these fears.

Oh, how times have changed!

The whole point of the militia movement was to defend the people against gross violations by the government of peoples’ constitutional rights. For instance, suppressing peoples’ First Amendment right to peacefully protest with pepper spray, beatings, tear gas and flashbang grenades.


Here’s a few gentlemen decked out in full gear at the Occupy Phoenix protests:

These are not liberals by any stretch of the imagination. The armed citizen, J.T. is, in fact, a neo-nazi. While one can assume he finds hippes and liberals…distasteful, he still makes a point of stating that he doesn’t even need to agree with the protest; they still have the right to be there without being assaulted by, yup, the government.

This has to be an extremely distressing development for the Right Wing fear mongers that have taken great pains to sow paranoid distrust among certain elements of the Right. If you condition people to fear the government taking away their freedoms, it shouldn’t be particularly shocking when they respond to that very thing. This is, literally, the kind of violent suppression of civil rights that militias have feared for decades.

Of course, the difference is that the suppression was supposed to be from “evil liberals” against “patriotic conservatives” rather then corporate “persons” against actual flesh and blood people. The problem is that the Occupy movement is under assault by proxies of the 1% and protecting them runs counter to the interests of the Right Wing media and their paymasters. It will most interesting to see whether Fox, Rush and their ilk ignore, applaud or denounce this. My money is on ignore.

Another reason for panic among the powers that be is the very presence of armed, Right Wing militias defending the Occupy movement is proof that the smear campaign is failing and failing epically. If virulently anti-government conservatives are looking past partisan politics to defend people they would normally despise, that’s not just a crack in the wall that’s been built between them, it’s a gaping hole.

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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/28/strange-bedfellows-militias-exercise-their-second-amendment-rights-to-protect-occupy-phoenix/

Wow.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 10/28/11 03:14 PM
Oh how they,ve been had!

rofl rofl rofl

lovtolaugh's photo
Fri 10/28/11 06:04 PM
fuc*en rights!

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 10/29/11 12:04 AM
Strange!
There was once,long ago a similar Hookup between "Extreme Right" and "Extreme Left"!
It ushered in the Third Reich!

Actually those two are only different in name!
They are Brainbrothers!
Rival Gangs fighting over the same Territory!

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Sat 10/29/11 09:47 PM

Another reason for panic among the powers that be is the very presence of armed, Right Wing militias defending the Occupy movement is proof that the smear campaign is failing and failing epically. If virulently anti-government conservatives are looking past partisan politics to defend people they would normally despise, that’s not just a crack in the wall that’s been built between them, it’s a gaping hole.


drinker

This is one of the things I was hoping would come out of this protest. When I saw how large it had become without any kind of platform statement, I was very excited for the possibility of people from 'different labels' coming together and finding common cause.

People get so attached and reactive to their labels and their pet positions - it so contrary to open dialog.

Besides, the "extreme left" and "extreme right" are not polar opposite positions. We only think so because we've been conditioned to think in these completely stupid categories of associated ideologies. Leftist anarchist and rightist minutemen have more in common with each other, imo, than either has with the mainstream.


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Sat 10/29/11 09:50 PM

Actually those two are only different in name!
They are Brainbrothers!
Rival [groups] fighting over the same [mindshare]!


They are a little different in more than name, but I mostly agree with you. At least, with those two word substitutions I made.



There was once,long ago a similar Hookup between "Extreme Right" and "Extreme Left"!
It ushered in the Third Reich!


Oh no!!! I can't be! We must stop this from happening!

Also... the last time I wore a red shirt with black shoes my aunt died. You know what that means!


warmachine's photo
Sun 10/30/11 01:43 AM
The negative reaction quite frankly disturbs me. You have people exercising their 2nd amendment rights in order to defend those who are exercising their 1st. Seems most uniquely American in it's nature to me.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 10/30/11 02:37 AM


Actually those two are only different in name!
They are Brainbrothers!
Rival [groups] fighting over the same [mindshare]!


They are a little different in more than name, but I mostly agree with you. At least, with those two word substitutions I made.



There was once,long ago a similar Hookup between "Extreme Right" and "Extreme Left"!
It ushered in the Third Reich!


Oh no!!! I can't be! We must stop this from happening!

Also... the last time I wore a red shirt with black shoes my aunt died. You know what that means!


you're in trouble?bigsmile

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 10/30/11 02:38 AM

The negative reaction quite frankly disturbs me. You have people exercising their 2nd amendment rights in order to defend those who are exercising their 1st. Seems most uniquely American in it's nature to me.
yeah,right!laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 10/30/11 02:40 AM

The negative reaction quite frankly disturbs me. You have people exercising their 2nd amendment rights in order to defend those who are exercising their 1st. Seems most uniquely American in it's nature to me.
doubt that crapping all over the place is American nature!
Freedom of Speech stops where action starts!
Your Freedom of Speech doesn't entail you to violate my rights!

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 10/30/11 02:42 AM
“Who Parented These People?” - Marybeth Hicks


“Call it an occupational hazard but I can’t look at the Occupy Wall Street protesters without thinking, “Who parented these people?”

As a culture columnist, I’ve commented on the social and political ramifications of the “movement” – now known as “OWS” – whose fairyland agenda can be summarized by one of their placards: “Everything for everybody.”

Thanks to their pipe-dream platform, it’s clear there are people with serious designs on “transformational” change in America who are using the protesters like bedsprings in a brothel.

Yet it’s not my role as a commentator that prompts my parenting question but rather the fact that I’m the mother of four teens and young adults. There are some crucial life lessons that the protesters’ moms clearly have not passed along.

Here, then, are five things the OWS protesters’ mothers should have taught their children but obviously didn’t.

Life isn’t fair. The concept of justice – that everyone should be treated fairly – is a worthy and worthwhile moral imperative on which our nation was founded. But justice and economic equality are not the same. Or, as Mick Jagger said, “You can’t always get what you want.”

No matter how you try to “level the playing field,” some people have better luck, skills, talents or connections that land them in better places. Some seem to have all the advantages in life but squander them, others play the modest hand they’re dealt and make up the difference in hard work and perseverance and some find jobs on Wall Street and eventually buy houses in the Hamptons. Is it fair? Stupid question.

Nothing is “free.” Protesting with signs that seek “free” college degrees and “free” health care make you look like idiots because colleges and hospitals don’t operate on rainbows and sunshine. There is no magic money machine to tap for your meandering educational careers and “slow paths” to adulthood and the 53 percent of taxpaying Americans owe you neither a degree nor an annual physical.

While I’m pointing out this obvious fact, here are a few other things that are not free,overtime for police officers and municipal workers, trash hauling,repairs to fixtures and property, condoms,Band-Aids and the food that inexplicably appears on the tables in your makeshift protest kitchens.Real people with real dollars are underwriting your civic temper tantrum.

Your word is your bond.When you demonstrate to eliminate student loan debt, you are advocating precisely the lack of integrity you decry in others. Loans are made based on solemn promises to repay them. No one forces you to borrow money; you are free to choose educational pursuits that don’t require loans or to seek technical or vocational training that allows you to support yourself and your ongoing educational goals.Also, for the record, being a college student is not a state of victimization.It’s a privilege that billions of young people around the globe would die for.

A protest is not a party.On Saturday in New York, while making a mad dash from my cab to the door of my hotel to avoid you, I saw what isn’t evident in the newsreel footage of your demonstrations: Most of you are doing this only for attention and fun. Serious people in a sober pursuit of social and political change don’t dance jigs down Sixth Avenue like attendees of a Renaissance festival. You look foolish, you smell gross, you are clearly high and you don’t seem to realize that all around you are people who deem you irrelevant.

• There are reasons you haven’t found jobs. The truth? Your tattooed necks, gauged ears, facial piercings and dirty dreadlocks are off-putting. Nonconformity for the sake of nonconformity isn’t a virtue. Occupy reality: Only 4 percent of college graduates are out of work. If you are among that 4 percent, find a mirror and face the problem. It’s not them. It’s you.
(© 2011 Marybeth Hicks)

http://dellsbottomline.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-this_27.html

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Sun 10/30/11 03:24 AM

“Who Parented These People?” - Marybeth Hicks


“Call it an occupational hazard but I can’t look at the Occupy Wall Street protesters without thinking, “Who parented these people?”

As a culture columnist, I’ve commented on the social and political ramifications of the “movement” – now known as “OWS” – whose fairyland agenda can be summarized by one of their placards: “Everything for everybody.”

Thanks to their pipe-dream platform, it’s clear there are people with serious designs on “transformational” change in America who are using the protesters like bedsprings in a brothel.

Yet it’s not my role as a commentator that prompts my parenting question but rather the fact that I’m the mother of four teens and young adults. There are some crucial life lessons that the protesters’ moms clearly have not passed along.

Here, then, are five things the OWS protesters’ mothers should have taught their children but obviously didn’t.

Life isn’t fair. The concept of justice – that everyone should be treated fairly – is a worthy and worthwhile moral imperative on which our nation was founded. But justice and economic equality are not the same. Or, as Mick Jagger said, “You can’t always get what you want.”

No matter how you try to “level the playing field,” some people have better luck, skills, talents or connections that land them in better places. Some seem to have all the advantages in life but squander them, others play the modest hand they’re dealt and make up the difference in hard work and perseverance and some find jobs on Wall Street and eventually buy houses in the Hamptons. Is it fair? Stupid question.

Nothing is “free.” Protesting with signs that seek “free” college degrees and “free” health care make you look like idiots because colleges and hospitals don’t operate on rainbows and sunshine. There is no magic money machine to tap for your meandering educational careers and “slow paths” to adulthood and the 53 percent of taxpaying Americans owe you neither a degree nor an annual physical.

While I’m pointing out this obvious fact, here are a few other things that are not free,overtime for police officers and municipal workers, trash hauling,repairs to fixtures and property, condoms,Band-Aids and the food that inexplicably appears on the tables in your makeshift protest kitchens.Real people with real dollars are underwriting your civic temper tantrum.

Your word is your bond.When you demonstrate to eliminate student loan debt, you are advocating precisely the lack of integrity you decry in others. Loans are made based on solemn promises to repay them. No one forces you to borrow money; you are free to choose educational pursuits that don’t require loans or to seek technical or vocational training that allows you to support yourself and your ongoing educational goals.Also, for the record, being a college student is not a state of victimization.It’s a privilege that billions of young people around the globe would die for.

A protest is not a party.On Saturday in New York, while making a mad dash from my cab to the door of my hotel to avoid you, I saw what isn’t evident in the newsreel footage of your demonstrations: Most of you are doing this only for attention and fun. Serious people in a sober pursuit of social and political change don’t dance jigs down Sixth Avenue like attendees of a Renaissance festival. You look foolish, you smell gross, you are clearly high and you don’t seem to realize that all around you are people who deem you irrelevant.

• There are reasons you haven’t found jobs. The truth? Your tattooed necks, gauged ears, facial piercings and dirty dreadlocks are off-putting. Nonconformity for the sake of nonconformity isn’t a virtue. Occupy reality: Only 4 percent of college graduates are out of work. If you are among that 4 percent, find a mirror and face the problem. It’s not them. It’s you.
(© 2011 Marybeth Hicks)

http://dellsbottomline.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-this_27.html



Culture columnists rock!bigsmile

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 10/30/11 03:36 AM


“Who Parented These People?” - Marybeth Hicks


“Call it an occupational hazard but I can’t look at the Occupy Wall Street protesters without thinking, “Who parented these people?”

As a culture columnist, I’ve commented on the social and political ramifications of the “movement” – now known as “OWS” – whose fairyland agenda can be summarized by one of their placards: “Everything for everybody.”

Thanks to their pipe-dream platform, it’s clear there are people with serious designs on “transformational” change in America who are using the protesters like bedsprings in a brothel.

Yet it’s not my role as a commentator that prompts my parenting question but rather the fact that I’m the mother of four teens and young adults. There are some crucial life lessons that the protesters’ moms clearly have not passed along.

Here, then, are five things the OWS protesters’ mothers should have taught their children but obviously didn’t.

Life isn’t fair. The concept of justice – that everyone should be treated fairly – is a worthy and worthwhile moral imperative on which our nation was founded. But justice and economic equality are not the same. Or, as Mick Jagger said, “You can’t always get what you want.”

No matter how you try to “level the playing field,” some people have better luck, skills, talents or connections that land them in better places. Some seem to have all the advantages in life but squander them, others play the modest hand they’re dealt and make up the difference in hard work and perseverance and some find jobs on Wall Street and eventually buy houses in the Hamptons. Is it fair? Stupid question.

Nothing is “free.” Protesting with signs that seek “free” college degrees and “free” health care make you look like idiots because colleges and hospitals don’t operate on rainbows and sunshine. There is no magic money machine to tap for your meandering educational careers and “slow paths” to adulthood and the 53 percent of taxpaying Americans owe you neither a degree nor an annual physical.

While I’m pointing out this obvious fact, here are a few other things that are not free,overtime for police officers and municipal workers, trash hauling,repairs to fixtures and property, condoms,Band-Aids and the food that inexplicably appears on the tables in your makeshift protest kitchens.Real people with real dollars are underwriting your civic temper tantrum.

Your word is your bond.When you demonstrate to eliminate student loan debt, you are advocating precisely the lack of integrity you decry in others. Loans are made based on solemn promises to repay them. No one forces you to borrow money; you are free to choose educational pursuits that don’t require loans or to seek technical or vocational training that allows you to support yourself and your ongoing educational goals.Also, for the record, being a college student is not a state of victimization.It’s a privilege that billions of young people around the globe would die for.

A protest is not a party.On Saturday in New York, while making a mad dash from my cab to the door of my hotel to avoid you, I saw what isn’t evident in the newsreel footage of your demonstrations: Most of you are doing this only for attention and fun. Serious people in a sober pursuit of social and political change don’t dance jigs down Sixth Avenue like attendees of a Renaissance festival. You look foolish, you smell gross, you are clearly high and you don’t seem to realize that all around you are people who deem you irrelevant.

• There are reasons you haven’t found jobs. The truth? Your tattooed necks, gauged ears, facial piercings and dirty dreadlocks are off-putting. Nonconformity for the sake of nonconformity isn’t a virtue. Occupy reality: Only 4 percent of college graduates are out of work. If you are among that 4 percent, find a mirror and face the problem. It’s not them. It’s you.
(© 2011 Marybeth Hicks)

http://dellsbottomline.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-this_27.html



Culture columnists rock!bigsmile
Yep,they sure do!
And she is right on the button!

bigsmile waving flowers

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Sun 10/30/11 10:23 AM
you're in trouble?bigsmile

laugh laugh

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Sun 10/30/11 10:27 AM
Edited by volant7 on Sun 10/30/11 10:29 AM
The Story of Your Enslavement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB-HZG1Zh7s&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A&feature=related

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Sun 10/30/11 10:29 AM

“Who Parented These People?” - Marybeth Hicks


“Call it an occupational hazard but I can’t look at the Occupy Wall Street protesters without thinking, “Who parented these people?”

As a culture columnist, I’ve commented on the social and political ramifications of the “movement” – now known as “OWS” – whose fairyland agenda can be summarized by one of their placards: “Everything for everybody.”

Thanks to their pipe-dream platform, it’s clear there are people with serious designs on “transformational” change in America who are using the protesters like bedsprings in a brothel.

Yet it’s not my role as a commentator that prompts my parenting question but rather the fact that I’m the mother of four teens and young adults. There are some crucial life lessons that the protesters’ moms clearly have not passed along.

Here, then, are five things the OWS protesters’ mothers should have taught their children but obviously didn’t.

Life isn’t fair. The concept of justice – that everyone should be treated fairly – is a worthy and worthwhile moral imperative on which our nation was founded. But justice and economic equality are not the same. Or, as Mick Jagger said, “You can’t always get what you want.”

No matter how you try to “level the playing field,” some people have better luck, skills, talents or connections that land them in better places. Some seem to have all the advantages in life but squander them, others play the modest hand they’re dealt and make up the difference in hard work and perseverance and some find jobs on Wall Street and eventually buy houses in the Hamptons. Is it fair? Stupid question.

Nothing is “free.” Protesting with signs that seek “free” college degrees and “free” health care make you look like idiots because colleges and hospitals don’t operate on rainbows and sunshine. There is no magic money machine to tap for your meandering educational careers and “slow paths” to adulthood and the 53 percent of taxpaying Americans owe you neither a degree nor an annual physical.

While I’m pointing out this obvious fact, here are a few other things that are not free,overtime for police officers and municipal workers, trash hauling,repairs to fixtures and property, condoms,Band-Aids and the food that inexplicably appears on the tables in your makeshift protest kitchens.Real people with real dollars are underwriting your civic temper tantrum.

Your word is your bond.When you demonstrate to eliminate student loan debt, you are advocating precisely the lack of integrity you decry in others. Loans are made based on solemn promises to repay them. No one forces you to borrow money; you are free to choose educational pursuits that don’t require loans or to seek technical or vocational training that allows you to support yourself and your ongoing educational goals.Also, for the record, being a college student is not a state of victimization.It’s a privilege that billions of young people around the globe would die for.

A protest is not a party.On Saturday in New York, while making a mad dash from my cab to the door of my hotel to avoid you, I saw what isn’t evident in the newsreel footage of your demonstrations: Most of you are doing this only for attention and fun. Serious people in a sober pursuit of social and political change don’t dance jigs down Sixth Avenue like attendees of a Renaissance festival. You look foolish, you smell gross, you are clearly high and you don’t seem to realize that all around you are people who deem you irrelevant.

• There are reasons you haven’t found jobs. The truth? Your tattooed necks, gauged ears, facial piercings and dirty dreadlocks are off-putting. Nonconformity for the sake of nonconformity isn’t a virtue. Occupy reality: Only 4 percent of college graduates are out of work. If you are among that 4 percent, find a mirror and face the problem. It’s not them. It’s you.
(© 2011 Marybeth Hicks)

http://dellsbottomline.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-this_27.html

Great article!

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Sun 10/30/11 01:08 PM


The negative reaction quite frankly disturbs me. You have people exercising their 2nd amendment rights in order to defend those who are exercising their 1st. Seems most uniquely American in it's nature to me.
doubt that crapping all over the place is American nature!
Freedom of Speech stops where action starts!
Your Freedom of Speech doesn't entail you to violate my rights!


You're doing the exact same thing that the MSM did with the Tea Party, lumping all of them into one broad grouping, with the base descriptions coming by way of the worst of the attendees.
There's more to both movement's than what the talking points will tell you, I'd suggest perhaps speaking with some of these folks, on both sides of the false left/right paradigm.

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Sun 10/30/11 01:47 PM



The negative reaction quite frankly disturbs me. You have people exercising their 2nd amendment rights in order to defend those who are exercising their 1st. Seems most uniquely American in it's nature to me.
doubt that crapping all over the place is American nature!
Freedom of Speech stops where action starts!
Your Freedom of Speech doesn't entail you to violate my rights!


You're doing the exact same thing that the MSM did with the Tea Party, lumping all of them into one broad grouping, with the base descriptions coming by way of the worst of the attendees.
There's more to both movement's than what the talking points will tell you, I'd suggest perhaps speaking with some of these folks, on both sides of the false left/right paradigm.


You're expecting people to use common sense and not assume everyone is like the worst of either group. Good luck with that.

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Sun 10/30/11 03:50 PM
and so is David Duke,who has just endorsed them in his own inimical anti-semitic Style,and the endorsement from the American Communist Party was also forthcoming!


What a goddamn mess! rofl rofl rofl

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Sun 10/30/11 03:53 PM

and so is David Duke,who has just endorsed them in his own inimical anti-semitic Style,and the endorsement from the American Communist Party was also forthcoming!


What a goddamn mess! rofl rofl rofl


Sadly, you're going to find racism and anti-semitism everywhere. It isn't a left only or right only issue.

You do realize that David Duke is Republican, right?

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