Topic: The government and extraterrestrials alien
smart2009's photo
Sun 10/02/11 07:35 AM


There are quite a few people that adamantlystate that aliens are living among us and that they look so muchlike us that it is impossible to pick them out. We have been presented by some with a picture ofbenign aliens mixing with humans whose only agenda is to help the human race, but is that what is really going on? Col. Corso, a deceased famous UFO whistle-blower and author, stated that thePentagon was extremely worried that it could be penetrated by aliens that look like humans and that nobody would know the difference. One interesting thing that Corso said, was that aliens had gotten into many of the secret societies and cults on this planet and were working against the governments of the world. Corso felt that this was a sort of invasion by infiltration, as opposed to a military invasion. It is believedthat when Corso spoke about such things, he was not referring to all the different types of aliens that he claimed were on this planet, but only some of them. He felt that others were here were that were not interfering in any way.
Colby With Presidents Bush And Ford

There has been a persistent rumor that President Clinton had wanted to expose several different programs that involve extraterrestrials, but that he had been warned that if he attempted to do this, he could land up like President Kennedy. We all know what happened to him. What we don't know are the real reasons for Kennedy's assassination. Could they have been UFO related, World Bank related, or neither of the two? It looks like nobody will ever know. The CIA directorWilliam Colby was said to have been an avid swimmer. Supposedly he was to meet with Dr. Steven Greer, the head of the Disclosure Project, to give him documents that prove that aliens were among us, but before this could happen he was found drowned in the Potomac River, while he was fully clothed. Had Colby decided to take a swim with all his clothes on? I sort of doubt it.
Supposedly the greys are the aliens that have ulterior motives, but it is said that they are not alone and that there are other races that are subordinate to them. While it is hard to know exactly what is going on, it is said that the greys home planet was destroyed and that they are now subservient to an evenmore powerful race. There is a story that has made the rounds. It is a story that seemsvery hard to believe, but if it is true it illustrates the point that there are powers far beyond the office of the president that control many aspects of that office. It is said that one of the infamous men in blackwas able to walk up tothen President Jimmy Carter and told him, “ Sir, if you want to complete your term aspresident, you will keep your God damn mouth shut about this UFO matter”. There seems to be an awful lot of coercion aimed at officials, when it comes to the topics of UFOs and aliens.
Whistle-blowers have repeatedly referenced a firefight that was said to have taken place in an underground base between extraterrestrials and government forces. It is said that this occurred when the US felt that the greys, who they had given a base to, had violated an agreement that allowed them to examine a limited amount of humans after handing a list of the names to government authorities. It is said that they abused this privilege and had taken for more. There is no way to know if all of these people were returned, or what their final fate might have been. After repeated demands by the government for this tostop, an attack was said to have been ordered on the alien base. The outcome was that many US soldiers were killed and no aliens. The remaining soldiers were forced to flee for their lives against superior firepower. We shot bullets at them that were totallyineffective and they shot back with devastating ray weapons, which we had no way to defend against.
Could Some Aliens Look Like This?

There have been manyreports of aliens that were seen working onsecret US bases. Some have said that one of the alien agendas is tokeep the United Statesin perpetual warfare, thus weakening us. They claim that another agenda is to cause us to have a monetary collapse. They state that the ultimate goal of the greys is for us to become a sort of slave race that will have very high productivity,thus allowing a huge manufacturing base tobe created that will eventually be used to enrich alien societies. This supposedly is the reason why aliens never directly invadedthis planet and causeddestruction, they wantto leave our assets intact. When you get avery high government official, such as Canada's former defense minister admitting that UFOs are alien machines, how can you not take this statement seriously? Paul Hellyer, former Canadian Minister of Defense admitted thatUFOs are alien and stated it before the Disclosure Project andyou can watch it usingthe link below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhElE3JILAE
Some in the inner circle of the government think thatthe extraterrestrials really didn't look like us, but have the abilityto make us think that they did, by using different techniques that might include controlling our minds,or some sort of camouflage that can change their bodies either temporarily or even permanently. I doubt the permanent part. Could it be that we think that they look like us, but only the exposed parts of their bodies have been altered to look that way and if we saw them say without a shirt for example wemight see scaly skin orsomething like it? Probably no one knows the answer to this question. There are said to be many different races of extraterrestrials watching and on this planet and perhaps a race of Earthlings that looks nothing like us and lives underground. This does raise all sorts of questions, like what type of relations does the government have with these beings? If we are to believe the story about the fire fight at the underground base, it seems that we are subservient to at least the greys. It is said that a secret meeting was held years ago and two Air Force Colonels both agreed that beings from otherworlds are entrenchedin this world.

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 10/02/11 10:28 AM
First of all I have a hypothesis that alien life would be VERY similar to our own even if there were evolutionary differences. I call it "Parallel Evolution." ALL life on this planet has gone through a seris of design changes from worms to vertebrates and arthropods and from there things went in two directions. But the one key factor is that tool users have a way of walking and using tools at the same time meaning MOST TOOL USERS ARE BIPEDAL, NOT QUADRAPEDAL. So an Alien could have evolved from cat like creatures and might even be larger than ourselves BUT they will walk on two legs and have hands. The idea that some Aliens look exactly like us could mean two things, ONe is that human evolution has been guided and that some "human stock" was removed from this planet, cultured elsewhere, and had the benefit of unfettered development from crap like religion and tradition. They would be a subordinate species more than likely to others. This would make a perfect interface for contact with another species that is previously unprepared for the eventual contact between others. Instead of little green men "they look just like us" (A.K.A. the movie adn TV series "V".)

Now for the bigger picture:
If we look at how large space and the universe really is and take into account there are indeed other "Planes" of existance for us to assume we are the only life present is utterly prepostorous let alone the only inteligence. Now in deference to the possibility there is other inteligent life there had to be wars when initial contact was made and when the smoke settled they had to come to a realization that the scope and scale of interplanetary warfare would lead to weapons capable of doing so much damage as to be completely insane to pursue combat they more than likely have founded a kind of governance that allows for them to exist without war between them. Taht probably came at a huge expense to them and as otehr species managed to find their way into space were met adn forced to enter into an agreement with the others or face being put down. Why? The others don't want a new species instigating a new space war. This is besty illustrated in the TV series Babylon 5 where a trigger happy Earth Captain blasted a Minbari criuser out of space when the Minbari ship presented open gun ports as a show of respect but the earth captain took that as an attack and wound up getting us caught in a war where the Earth was loosing to a VASTLY superior species.

Now for them visiting us:
Aliens visiting this planet have several probelms to face making first contact. Humans are caniving, backstabbing, traitorous, and SELF CENTERED. But in this order is what Aliens would have to fear:
Religious Zealots who will kill them for being Demons, Blasphemies, sorcerers, Not of this world, etc..
Profiteers.
Governemtns seeking better weapons to one up the other nations AND technologies to help take the Aliens on.
Stupid Hillbillies, Trailer Park Trash, Thugs (Pick your choice of phrase otherwise) who would torture and kill them just becasue they were not human.
Xenophobics.

If man kind REALLY went into space right now we probably would wind up pissing some Alien species off so bad they WOULD COME HERE AND TRASH US GOOD!

I feel that Aliens are trying to culture us for entry into the larger game. If something that looked like a huge crab with claw like hands instead of Crab Claws visited us we would be so freaked out we would blast it sight unseen whether they were hostile or not. And if they came in peace and we blasted their ambassadors what do you think they would do? Slave races eventually smarten up and turn on their masters. That has happened throughout history on this planet. So making us a slave species makes no sense. That is just human fear but it is a founded fear and completely dismissing that posibility IS STUPID! It just lacks practicality and sustainability.

Invasion:
That has got to be the most stupid thing I have seen and heard of. Movies Like INDEPENDANCE DAY and others are so off base. The idea for any invasion is to NOT expose yourself to danger if possible. Why do your think we are so busy developing unmanned weapons? I have seen shows about "WHAT IF ALIENS INVADED." The idea of Bioweapons, raw troop placement, and other direct menas have been presented and yeah, if we were facing a race that LOVED WAR SO MUCH might entertain such an attack there would be others who would take them on just to keep themselves FROM being attacked. Also the previous methods require huge amounts of resource and time to prepare and with Bio there is a chance your own weapons could work against your ambitions and species. This is how Aliens would pull a takeover of our planet, They would simply take an Asteroid large enough to do what happened to the dinosaur 65 million years ago and black out the sky by smacking our planet with it. All it would take is two weeks of continuoius dark and the die off would follow very shortly. We would be gone AS A SPECIES in a year. Whatever is left over the troops can mop up EASILY! For a space faring species it would be easy to smack this planet with a mountain sized asteroid.

Frankly I would LOVE to meet a nonterrestrial and inteligent species. I would love to even get to travel with them to see the univers in a way no human on this planet has that we know of. But man kind is not quite ready yet. A real inteligent species would want to culture us for the eventual first contact so it didn't go right to terror, fear, and war. And even today the last thing I would want is for a ship to land in say Nebraska on accident and some stupid white trash farmer to kill them sight nunseen becasue they were "tresspassing" or he couldn't undertand them. Worst would be for an alien space ship to be forced down on our world becasue our military got lucky and shot down some peace envoy and did an Area 51 on them complete with vivisection. I fear what our own goverenment would do to them and the consequenses of their own agendas. if I did run into an alien who was strande don this planet I would do whatever I could to help thwem get a lift off of this planet more for their own personal safty and our own as a species. Our own military is too full of evil greedy cock suckers who would take any opportunity to do a Dr. Mengele on some poor unfortunate offworlder trapped among us becasue they "know" they could get away with it and becasue of "National Security." All they would do is condenm our species.

Yes Aliens would be smart to interfere with our species to prevent us from getting our own azzes handed to us for being such a stupid pack of Chimps! Humans are nothing more than Apes. And I am sure that is how other species see us too as they look down on our world!

jrbogie's photo
Sun 10/02/11 10:39 AM
but andy, didn't you read the opening post? there have been reports and many consistent rumors.

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 10/02/11 09:41 PM

but andy, didn't you read the opening post? there have been reports and many consistent rumors.


Until I have facts that is dubious. I am not about to be led by fear. Hell, if I did run into a real extra terrestrial I would be intrigued and if anything hospitable. Why try to piss them off. If it was like a predator I would hope to hell it didn't see me as prey predisposing they had some code against killing what they can talk to without cause.

Please tell me what would keep a well equipped combattant species with the wherewithal and the capacity to just invade us to not do so?

Now if I were a space faring species adn new a new up and coming species was about to come into space I would want them prepared for what they are about to enter into rahter than risk having to expend myself militarily to having to harsh down on some upstart low evolved species.

What treatment would aliens get had they landed in say Italy circa the Dark Ages? How do you think those wacky Catholics would take that? Hell, Roswell was a cover up. I know that somehow we have been in contact but we have agreements to acclimate humanioty for the knowledge we are not alone in fear of triggering a mass hysteria over aliens trying to take us over.

What is to say we have not been cultured to be what we are for a long time? "Ezekiel saw the Wheel in the sky." Babylon has an account where a king of theirs actually was taken up into heaven by a flaming chariot and returned a few days later. Then there is a number of other accounts where people have been met and got to fly up into heaven deemed as fictional when there is a good chance they were there for real. All that alien butt sex talk is a bunch of crap.

If we are a slave species why have we not been dominated sooner?