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Topic: Mr. Rumsfeld. You Are Under Arrest
Bestinshow's photo
Sat 09/24/11 05:22 AM
Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has been stripped of legal immunity for acts of torture against US citizens authorized while he was in office.


The 7th Circuit made the ruling in the case of two American contractors who were tortured by the US military in Iraq after uncovering a smuggling ring within an Iraqi security company. The company was under contract to the Department of Defense. The company was assisting Iraqi insurgent groups in the “mass acquisition” of American weapons. The ruling comes as Rumsfeld begins his book tour with a visit to Boston on Monday, September 26, and as new, uncensored photos of Abu Ghraib spark fresh outrage across Internet. Awareness is growing that Bush-era crimes went far beyond mere waterboarding.

Torture Room, Abu Ghraib



Republican Senator Lindsey Graham told reporters in 2004 of photos withheld by the Defense Department from Abu Ghraib, “The American public needs to understand, we’re talking about rape and murder here… We’re not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience. We’re talking about rape and murder and some very serious charges.” And journalist Seymour Hersh says: “boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has.”


Rumsfeld resigned days before a criminal complaint was filed in Germany in which the American general who commanded the military police battalion at Abu Ghraib had promised to testify. General Janis Karpinski in an interview with Salon.com was asked: “Do you feel like Rumsfeld is at the heart of all of this and should be held completely accountable for what happened [at Abu Ghraib]?”
Karpinski answered: “Yes, absolutely.” In the criminal complaint filed in Germany against Rumsfeld, Karpinski submitted 17 pages of testimony and offered to appear before the German prosecutor as a witness. Congressman Kendrick Meek of Florida, who participated in the hearings on Abu Ghraib, said of Rumsfeld: “There was no way Rumsfeld didn’t know what was going on. He’s a guy who wants to know everything.”


And Major General Antonio Taguba, who led the official Army investigation into Abu Ghraib, said in his report:
“there is no longer any doubt as to whether the [Bush] administration has committed war crimes. The only question is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account.”


And the Mayor of London threatened Bush with arrest for war crimes earlier this year should he ever set foot in his city, saying that were he to land in London to “flog his memoirs,” that “the real trouble — from the Bush point of view — is that he might never see Texas again.”


Former Secretary of State Colin Powell’s Chief-of-Staff Col. Lawrence Wilkerson surmised on MSNBC earlier this year that soon, Saudi Arabia and Israel will be “the only two countries Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest will travel to.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26690

Kleisto's photo
Sat 09/24/11 06:01 AM
I've already posted something similar to this, but doesn't hurt to repeat it.

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 09/24/11 10:04 AM
I doubt strongly a convicition is coming. You are aware this will have ripples into Congress and they are already treading water hard. Likewise the whole Gitmo thing compares in ways to Waco Texas and Ruby ridge where military force was executed on civilians and yet Janet Reno skated.

Don't get too cheerful becasue an Ollie North will come along and take the fall and look at where he is these days. Ollie is a comfortable man.

Hope this knowledge bothers you more! So did Obama bring us the change he proomised?

Ollie

Ollie

Ollie

Ollie!



He could't recall!

Bestinshow's photo
Sat 09/24/11 10:09 AM

I doubt strongly a convicition is coming. You are aware this will have ripples into Congress and they are already treading water hard. Likewise the whole Gitmo thing compares in ways to Waco Texas and Ruby ridge where military force was executed on civilians and yet Janet Reno skated.

Don't get too cheerful becasue an Ollie North will come along and take the fall and look at where he is these days. Ollie is a comfortable man.

Hope this knowledge bothers you more! So did Obama bring us the change he proomised?

Ollie

Ollie

Ollie

Ollie!



He could't recall!
isnt it discutsting ? the man violated his oath of service.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/24/11 04:39 PM

I doubt strongly a convicition is coming. You are aware this will have ripples into Congress and they are already treading water hard. Likewise the whole Gitmo thing compares in ways to Waco Texas and Ruby ridge where military force was executed on civilians and yet Janet Reno skated.

Don't get too cheerful becasue an Ollie North will come along and take the fall and look at where he is these days. Ollie is a comfortable man.

Hope this knowledge bothers you more! So did Obama bring us the change he proomised?

Ollie

Ollie

Ollie

Ollie!



He could't recall!


Not going to happen, not in ANY country.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 09/24/11 05:40 PM


I doubt strongly a convicition is coming. You are aware this will have ripples into Congress and they are already treading water hard. Likewise the whole Gitmo thing compares in ways to Waco Texas and Ruby ridge where military force was executed on civilians and yet Janet Reno skated.

Don't get too cheerful becasue an Ollie North will come along and take the fall and look at where he is these days. Ollie is a comfortable man.

Hope this knowledge bothers you more! So did Obama bring us the change he proomised?

Ollie

Ollie

Ollie

Ollie!



He could't recall!
isnt it discutsting ? the man violated his oath of service.


oh hell, you know he was a fall guy, a patsy...laugh laugh laugh

jamesfortville's photo
Sat 09/24/11 05:52 PM
All of this crap – there was a crime. As for as the contributors to this web site, you can’t see the trees for the forest, or is it the other way around.


mightymoe's photo
Sat 09/24/11 05:53 PM

All of this crap – there was a crime. As for as the contributors to this web site, you can’t see the trees for the forest, or is it the other way around.



what crime was that?

no photo
Sat 09/24/11 06:37 PM
what crime was that?


It's been all over the media. All it takes is a prima facie case to bring an action.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 09/24/11 07:30 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Sat 09/24/11 07:31 PM

what crime was that?


It's been all over the media. All it takes is a prima facie case to bring an action.


sounds like more liberal pansy "don't hurt the criminals" type attitude. they were giving weapons to the enemy? thats called treason...

no photo
Sat 09/24/11 07:36 PM
"Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has been stripped of legal immunity for acts of torture against US citizens authorized while he was in office. "

c'est bon, tres bein!!

no photo
Sat 09/24/11 07:39 PM

Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has been stripped of legal immunity for acts of torture against US citizens authorized while he was in office.


The 7th Circuit made the ruling in the case of two American contractors who were tortured by the US military in Iraq after uncovering a smuggling ring within an Iraqi security company. The company was under contract to the Department of Defense. The company was assisting Iraqi insurgent groups in the “mass acquisition” of American weapons. The ruling comes as Rumsfeld begins his book tour with a visit to Boston on Monday, September 26, and as new, uncensored photos of Abu Ghraib spark fresh outrage across Internet. Awareness is growing that Bush-era crimes went far beyond mere waterboarding.

Torture Room, Abu Ghraib



Republican Senator Lindsey Graham told reporters in 2004 of photos withheld by the Defense Department from Abu Ghraib, “The American public needs to understand, we’re talking about rape and murder here… We’re not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience. We’re talking about rape and murder and some very serious charges.” And journalist Seymour Hersh says: “boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has.”


Rumsfeld resigned days before a criminal complaint was filed in Germany in which the American general who commanded the military police battalion at Abu Ghraib had promised to testify. General Janis Karpinski in an interview with Salon.com was asked: “Do you feel like Rumsfeld is at the heart of all of this and should be held completely accountable for what happened [at Abu Ghraib]?”
Karpinski answered: “Yes, absolutely.” In the criminal complaint filed in Germany against Rumsfeld, Karpinski submitted 17 pages of testimony and offered to appear before the German prosecutor as a witness. Congressman Kendrick Meek of Florida, who participated in the hearings on Abu Ghraib, said of Rumsfeld: “There was no way Rumsfeld didn’t know what was going on. He’s a guy who wants to know everything.”


And Major General Antonio Taguba, who led the official Army investigation into Abu Ghraib, said in his report:
“there is no longer any doubt as to whether the [Bush] administration has committed war crimes. The only question is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account.”


And the Mayor of London threatened Bush with arrest for war crimes earlier this year should he ever set foot in his city, saying that were he to land in London to “flog his memoirs,” that “the real trouble — from the Bush point of view — is that he might never see Texas again.”


Former Secretary of State Colin Powell’s Chief-of-Staff Col. Lawrence Wilkerson surmised on MSNBC earlier this year that soon, Saudi Arabia and Israel will be “the only two countries Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest will travel to.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26690


whoa

this is really heavy. we will be arresting the perps mais oui?

I mean I don't give a flying banana who they are that is some sick shite

Lpdon's photo
Sat 09/24/11 08:32 PM
Nope, they never will be touched. This is just more Looney Left propaganda.

Kleisto's photo
Sat 09/24/11 10:34 PM

Nope, they never will be touched. This is just more Looney Left propaganda.


And the sheep says baaaaaaaa.

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 09/25/11 10:47 AM


Nope, they never will be touched. This is just more Looney Left propaganda.


And the sheep says baaaaaaaa.


That is precisely WHY he will not get touched! That and he will unload sectrets that will potentially shatter our trust in Congress!

They DON'T want that to happen to them now do they!

mightymoe's photo
Sun 09/25/11 10:57 AM



Nope, they never will be touched. This is just more Looney Left propaganda.


And the sheep says baaaaaaaa.


That is precisely WHY he will not get touched! That and he will unload sectrets that will potentially shatter our trust in Congress!

They DON'T want that to happen to them now do they!


that is true, if the truthers are right, he would have been in the middle of it...

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 10/21/11 01:29 PM

I've already posted something similar to this, but doesn't hurt to repeat it.
no it does not.

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 10/21/11 01:34 PM

I've already posted something similar to this, but doesn't hurt to repeat it.


Mr "We cannot account for 2.3 Trillion Dollars" Rumsfeld

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 10/21/11 01:37 PM
And Major General Antonio Taguba, who led the official Army investigation into Abu Ghraib, said in his report:
“there is no longer any doubt as to whether the [Bush] administration has committed war crimes. The only question is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account.”


And the Mayor of London threatened Bush with arrest for war crimes earlier this year should he ever set foot in his city, saying that were he to land in London to “flog his memoirs,” that “the real trouble — from the Bush point of view — is that he might never see Texas again.”


This brings me hope

no photo
Fri 10/21/11 07:02 PM
Edited by massagetrade on Fri 10/21/11 07:02 PM
Oh, the Dems are so extreme and wrong!
Oh, the Repubs are so extreme and wrong!
Oh, the Dems are so extreme and wrong!
Oh, the Repubs are so extreme and wrong!

Will ya'll make an effort to stop seeing the world through the lens of political affiliation? Its a bit more complex than that.

We are all on the same side: we want what's best for our country.

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