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Topic: --- Any Nirvana fans still around ---
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Thu 09/22/11 11:31 PM
Edited by HawaiiMusikMan on Thu 09/22/11 11:43 PM
Yes, Kurt Cobain is my idol. I can't be the only one around here, can I? He was the Lennon of the nineties and still kicks *** compared to the radio crapola nowadays. Lady Gaga, and that teen brat, I can't remember his name thankfully, seem to top the charts. Music has taken a turn for the worse these days and it take diligence to find something new that's decent compared to the past.

I like the Doors, CCR, Lynyrd Skynyrd, the Beatles, Rolling Stones. What the hell has happened to music? I'm ashamed


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Thu 09/22/11 11:40 PM
rock/pop music has been going downhill since the 70s. It has a lot to do with marketing. The target audience of major labels are now the teens and tweens because they tend to have extra money to burn. This, of course, is done at the expense of quality. Indy music is where it's at! drinker Check out the various internet radio stations-they play much better stuff than the FM jockeys.smokin

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Fri 09/23/11 12:01 AM
There are a few modern bands I like alright. Radiohead, Muse, Kasabian, The Shins, Franz Ferdinand, ect..... but for the most part, they're all shite

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Fri 09/23/11 06:20 AM
No wonder about all the CD's I buy are "old" bands or artists.

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Fri 09/23/11 06:28 AM
I never understood the obsession people had with Nirvana. I thought they were ok, but that's about it.

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Fri 09/23/11 06:40 AM
Edited by sweetestgirl11 on Fri 09/23/11 06:43 AM
I liked Nevermind and and the MTV acoustic session is my favorite Kurt, but was more a Soundgarden and Pearl Jam person in that era - Eddie Vedders and Chris Cornell are (to me anyway) remarkable vocalists

and Alice & Chains tho considered grunge I never thought of them in the same category as the above except maybe SG as their sound was also a little more metal. AIC and PJ are my favorites from the era - Dirt and Given To Fly

Also as post grunge I loved Creed - Still do. I remember telling my neighbor that I thought they were the best new music of the latter half of the 90s and I'm sticking to it. Human Clay is my pick tho I also think My Own Prison has some brilliance.

Now I listen to Foo Fighters, Deftones. The Deftones took metal to a new place - they are not Korn offshoots. They so do not sound like Korn to me tho I like Korn even tho some of their stuff is a bit adolescent for me(which Deftones is definitely not). Also if you were a Beatles fan then I would strongly recommend Incubus. Foo, Incubus and the Deftones may be the best new music of decade 2000. Tho they may have been around earlier that's when I "found" them

I think there's a lot of really good music out there some of it is new - some not. What it sounds a little like you're after are era bands - bands that stay together - hard to find and another reason for the ones I have picked. Metallica, PJ, Deftones, FF , aic- they're still around. Are the Counting Crows still together? I used to like some of their stuff too. I have finally settled on Saturday Night Wrist with White Pony as a close second - been trying to choose a favorite deftones now for years.

I mostly listen to country anyway. But when I feel like rock I listen to the above - and a few others (many others actually. I was trying to highlight some recommendations)

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Fri 09/23/11 07:27 AM

I liked Nevermind and and the MTV acoustic session is my favorite Kurt, but was more a Soundgarden and Pearl Jam person in that era - Eddie Vedders and Chris Cornell are (to me anyway) remarkable vocalists

and Alice & Chains tho considered grunge I never thought of them in the same category as the above except maybe SG as their sound was also a little more metal. AIC and PJ are my favorites from the era - Dirt and Given To Fly

Also as post grunge I loved Creed - Still do. I remember telling my neighbor that I thought they were the best new music of the latter half of the 90s and I'm sticking to it. Human Clay is my pick tho I also think My Own Prison has some brilliance.

Now I listen to Foo Fighters, Deftones. The Deftones took metal to a new place - they are not Korn offshoots. They so do not sound like Korn to me tho I like Korn even tho some of their stuff is a bit adolescent for me(which Deftones is definitely not). Also if you were a Beatles fan then I would strongly recommend Incubus. Foo, Incubus and the Deftones may be the best new music of decade 2000. Tho they may have been around earlier that's when I "found" them

I think there's a lot of really good music out there some of it is new - some not. What it sounds a little like you're after are era bands - bands that stay together - hard to find and another reason for the ones I have picked. Metallica, PJ, Deftones, FF , aic- they're still around. Are the Counting Crows still together? I used to like some of their stuff too. I have finally settled on Saturday Night Wrist with White Pony as a close second - been trying to choose a favorite deftones now for years.

I mostly listen to country anyway. But when I feel like rock I listen to the above - and a few others (many others actually. I was trying to highlight some recommendations)


I much prefer Pearl Jam and still listen to them often. Eddie Vedder has one of the sexiest voices ever. I like Soundgarden as well. And while I don't mind Nirvana, I was just never a big fan.

I like some of the other bands you've listed as well, except for Creed.

But, that's what's good about music. There's something out there for everyone.

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Fri 09/23/11 07:54 AM

There are a few modern bands I like alright. Radiohead, Muse, Kasabian, The Shins, Franz Ferdinand, ect..... but for the most part, they're all shite
What do you think about Foo Fighters? I've been listening to them a lot lately. I lived in Seattle at the time grunge started becoming big, so I kinda feel like Nirvana,Dave Grohl, Alice in Chains, Pearljam are all a piece of my personal soundtrack. I just saw a Youtube clip where FF were playing (Lollapalooza) in a total downpour/thunder lightning, and all. Got admire that.

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Fri 09/23/11 09:28 AM
This is exactly why I remain stuck in the 80's! I love metal, real metal and not that poison, cinderella **** either. I also love real country, the kind with an "o" in it, not that top 40 cuntry they spit out today.

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Fri 09/23/11 09:41 AM
Edited by HawaiiMusikMan on Fri 09/23/11 09:42 AM


There are a few modern bands I like alright. Radiohead, Muse, Kasabian, The Shins, Franz Ferdinand, ect..... but for the most part, they're all shite


What do you think about Foo Fighters? I've been listening to them a lot lately. I lived in Seattle at the time grunge started becoming big, so I kinda feel like Nirvana,Dave Grohl, Alice in Chains, Pearljam are all a piece of my personal soundtrack. I just saw a Youtube clip where FF were playing (Lollapalooza) in a total downpour/thunder lightning, and all. Got admire that.


I like some of Foo Fighters. They're a little too poppy for me though and Dave Grohl's a bit of a goofball. Not quite my style but they do have a few good tunes in my opinion


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Fri 09/23/11 12:31 PM

Yes, Kurt Cobain is my idol. I can't be the only one around here, can I? He was the Lennon of the nineties and still kicks *** compared to the radio crapola nowadays. Lady Gaga, and that teen brat, I can't remember his name thankfully, seem to top the charts. Music has taken a turn for the worse these days and it take diligence to find something new that's decent compared to the past.

I like the Doors, CCR, Lynyrd Skynyrd, the Beatles, Rolling Stones. What the hell has happened to music? I'm ashamed



I agree.....but I do like Rucker too....I like his voice and his style of music

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Fri 09/23/11 02:52 PM
I like Nirvana! Kurt Cobain rocked!

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Fri 09/23/11 04:32 PM



There are a few modern bands I like alright. Radiohead, Muse, Kasabian, The Shins, Franz Ferdinand, ect..... but for the most part, they're all shite


What do you think about Foo Fighters? I've been listening to them a lot lately. I lived in Seattle at the time grunge started becoming big, so I kinda feel like Nirvana,Dave Grohl, Alice in Chains, Pearljam are all a piece of my personal soundtrack. I just saw a Youtube clip where FF were playing (Lollapalooza) in a total downpour/thunder lightning, and all. Got admire that.


I like some of Foo Fighters. They're a little too poppy for me though and Dave Grohl's a bit of a goofball. Not quite my style but they do have a few good tunes in my opinion


I kinda thought that might be where you were at. Tis cool. Nirvana was really something new and unique and in some ways still is.

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Fri 09/23/11 04:42 PM
5 Things You Didn't Know About Nirvana's 'Nevermind'
Posted Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:05am PDT by Daniel Kreps in Amplifier

September 24th marks the 20th anniversary of one of the greatest and most influential albums of all time, Nirvana's Nevermind. A week after its release in 1991, the LP debuted at Number 144 on the Billboard 200. Two months later, it went platinum. Two months after that, Nevermind unseated Michael Jackson's Dangerous at Number One, and Nirvana were the biggest band in the world. It was the kind of overnight success that happens once in a generation, but Nevermind's impact over the past 20 years has expanded beyond what anyone then -- critics, DGC Records, even Kurt Cobain -- ever expected.

From the opening salvo of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" to the final crushing notes of "Endless, Nameless" (if that secret track was on your CD), Nevermind remains as potent, exhilarating, and unshakably catchy as the day it arrived two decades ago. Next week, a massive deluxe reissue will celebrate its legacy. Still, there are chapters in the album's history that most people don't know about. Even if you've played your Nevermind cassette into the ground or heard "Come As You Are" a hundred times on the radio, here are a handful of things that might surprise you about Nirvana's masterpiece:

• Nevermind has secret lyrics and no one knows what they mean.
In the poem that Cobain assembled for the liner notes, amid snippets of Nevermind song lyrics, there are two lines that don't appear anywhere on the album: "At the end of the rainbow and your rope" and "The second coming came in last and out of the closet." These two sentences have puzzled Nirvana fans for 20 years. Are they lines from songs intended for the album but didn't make the cut? Early lyrics from Nevermind songs that were later rewritten? Or was Cobain just messing with everybody?

Sadly, unless Dave Grohl or Krist Novoselic step up with an explanation, this question will probably go unanswered. Everything that was recorded during the Nevermind era has been released or bootlegged, so it's unlikely these lyrics were taken from two songs that remain unreleased. They're probably early lyrics that were replaced when the album was officially recorded at Smart Studios. The "Boombox Demos" on the new Nevermind reissue reveal that songs like "On a Plain" and "Lounge Act" had different words than their finished products, so those two mysterious lines were likely victims of Cobain's lyrical indecision. Or, maybe not. This secret has gone unsolved for 20 years, so don't expect the truth anytime soon.

• Dave Grohl isn't the only drummer on Nevermind.
Like their Seattle counterparts Pearl Jam, Nirvana's early years featured a revolving door of drummers: Aaron Burckhard, Melvins' Dale Crover, Mudhoney's Dan Peters, Dave Foster, and Chad Channing all enjoyed stints with Cobain's crew before Grohl took over for good in late 1990. Channing was the drummer for the majority of Nirvana's Bleach, and he was with the band when Cobain and Novoselic went to producer Butch Vig's Wisconsin studio to record demos for Nevermind in April 1990.

When Grohl's hardcore band Scream broke up, he replaced Channing, who was having creative differences with Cobain. The band reentered Smart Studios and re-recorded all the Nevermind songs... except "Polly." That pre-Grohl April 1990 demo recording made the final track list, and while there are no drums on that track, it's an uncredited Channing who hits the cymbal each time before the chorus. Channing might be the Pete Best of Nirvana, but even hitting a cymbal on "Polly" is an awesome claim to fame.

• There's a photo of Kiss hidden in the Nevermind artwork.
Squint your eyes and look deep into that photo of a "monkey in hell" on the back of the Nevermind jewel case. See anything unusual, like four grown men dressed in clown makeup? Cobain himself took that picture of a plastic monkey surrounded by a collage of Dante's Inferno paintings (using his heavily disguised pseudonym "Kurdt Kobain"). But here's what you probably can't see: Cobain once revealed in Nevermind It's an Interview, "If you look real close, there's a picture of Kiss in the back, standing on a slab of beef."

It's nearly impossible to see it, but blur your eyes enough and stare above the monkey's head like it's 3D Art. It may be The Amp's imagination, but what looks like a reddened version of Kiss' Destroyer cover slightly emerges. In the age of vinyl records, this would've been more apparent, but the shrunken artwork on cassettes and CDs kept this little surprise hidden.

• Nevermind was once called Sheep and "Breed" was named after diarrhea medication.
Just as Nevermind's lyrics underwent significant revisions, so did the album's name and song titles. "Polly" was briefly called "Hitchhiker" and "Cracker" before Cobain settled on the girl's name. When "Breed" was first demoed in April 1990, it bore the name "Immodium," the medication Cobain often relied on to ease his stomach problems (he was diagnosed with Crohn's disease; he also spelled Imodium with three m's for some reason). "Stay Away" was originally recorded as "Pay to Play," and that line was even sung in the chorus (this version is on the reissue). But having just signed a major label deal with DGC, that song became hypocritical (and rubbed execs the wrong way) and "Stay Away" was born.

As for Nevermind, that almost wasn't even the title. Cobain originally envisioned the LP being called Sheep, which was in line with his thoughts on conformity. "Because you want to not; because everyone else is," Cobain wrote of "Sheep" in his journal. However, the band instead decided on a phrase that was more apropos of

Generation X and its slacker masses: Nevermind. That wasn't even a word before Nirvana came along -- "never mind," two words, is grammatically correct -- but that's all changed now.

• The baby on the cover wasn't really fishing for a dollar.
What, you thought some mother let her infant son be submerged in a pool with a $1 bill on a hook? Someone in the DGC art department added the single on a fishing line to Kirk Weddle's now-famous photograph. As for the controversial decision to include the baby's penis on the cover, Cobain would only allow it to be censored on one condition: A sticker was placed on the cover that read "If you're offended by this, you must be a closet pedophile." Thankfully, the art was left unedited, and Nevermind went on to become one of the most iconic album covers ever.



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Fri 09/23/11 05:26 PM

Yes, Kurt Cobain is my idol. I can't be the only one around here, can I? He was the Lennon of the nineties and still kicks *** compared to the radio crapola nowadays. Lady Gaga, and that teen brat, I can't remember his name thankfully, seem to top the charts. Music has taken a turn for the worse these days and it take diligence to find something new that's decent compared to the past.

I like the Doors, CCR, Lynyrd Skynyrd, the Beatles, Rolling Stones. What the hell has happened to music? I'm ashamed




Nirvana is amazing, to bad Cobain's live was cut short by being murdered by Courtney Love.

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Fri 09/23/11 05:27 PM

There are a few modern bands I like alright. Radiohead, Muse, Kasabian, The Shins, Franz Ferdinand, ect..... but for the most part, they're all shite


You don't like 3 Doors Down? noway

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Fri 09/23/11 06:57 PM


There are a few modern bands I like alright. Radiohead, Muse, Kasabian, The Shins, Franz Ferdinand, ect..... but for the most part, they're all shite
What do you think about Foo Fighters? I've been listening to them a lot lately. I lived in Seattle at the time grunge started becoming big, so I kinda feel like Nirvana,Dave Grohl, Alice in Chains, Pearljam are all a piece of my personal soundtrack. I just saw a Youtube clip where FF were playing (Lollapalooza) in a total downpour/thunder lightning, and all. Got admire that.


FF is defintely a band on par with any of the greats in R&R history - on another thread here I listed Everlong as one of the most beautiful pieces of music in existence - bar none

which gets me to think I need to go look up the author

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Fri 09/23/11 07:03 PM


I liked Nevermind and and the MTV acoustic session is my favorite Kurt, but was more a Soundgarden and Pearl Jam person in that era - Eddie Vedders and Chris Cornell are (to me anyway) remarkable vocalists

and Alice & Chains tho considered grunge I never thought of them in the same category as the above except maybe SG as their sound was also a little more metal. AIC and PJ are my favorites from the era - Dirt and Given To Fly

Also as post grunge I loved Creed - Still do. I remember telling my neighbor that I thought they were the best new music of the latter half of the 90s and I'm sticking to it. Human Clay is my pick tho I also think My Own Prison has some brilliance.

Now I listen to Foo Fighters, Deftones. The Deftones took metal to a new place - they are not Korn offshoots. They so do not sound like Korn to me tho I like Korn even tho some of their stuff is a bit adolescent for me(which Deftones is definitely not). Also if you were a Beatles fan then I would strongly recommend Incubus. Foo, Incubus and the Deftones may be the best new music of decade 2000. Tho they may have been around earlier that's when I "found" them

I think there's a lot of really good music out there some of it is new - some not. What it sounds a little like you're after are era bands - bands that stay together - hard to find and another reason for the ones I have picked. Metallica, PJ, Deftones, FF , aic- they're still around. Are the Counting Crows still together? I used to like some of their stuff too. I have finally settled on Saturday Night Wrist with White Pony as a close second - been trying to choose a favorite deftones now for years.

I mostly listen to country anyway. But when I feel like rock I listen to the above - and a few others (many others actually. I was trying to highlight some recommendations)


I much prefer Pearl Jam and still listen to them often. Eddie Vedder has one of the sexiest voices ever. I like Soundgarden as well. And while I don't mind Nirvana, I was just never a big fan.

I like some of the other bands you've listed as well, except for Creed.

But, that's what's good about music. There's something out there for everyone.

Eddie Vedder is clearly one of the best male vocalists of his time

I do like Creed (before the hype and online fighting that lead to the break up) and u aren't the first person to take issue with me regarding their talent, but I have always been a musical drifter with my pulse on local live music and about a decade behind the times with recording artists - big name stuff. So when creed came out and I actually noticed....that's saying something....I had been hearing a lot of grunge and some that I liked and when Creed came out I was like - whoa....rock n roll is back! tune it down babylaugh

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Fri 09/23/11 07:03 PM



There are a few modern bands I like alright. Radiohead, Muse, Kasabian, The Shins, Franz Ferdinand, ect..... but for the most part, they're all shite
What do you think about Foo Fighters? I've been listening to them a lot lately. I lived in Seattle at the time grunge started becoming big, so I kinda feel like Nirvana,Dave Grohl, Alice in Chains, Pearljam are all a piece of my personal soundtrack. I just saw a Youtube clip where FF were playing (Lollapalooza) in a total downpour/thunder lightning, and all. Got admire that.


FF is defintely a band on par with any of the greats in R&R history - on another thread here I listed Everlong as one of the most beautiful pieces of music in existence - bar none

which gets me to think I need to go look up the author


FF is b-league compared to the others...JMO

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Fri 09/23/11 07:05 PM

This is exactly why I remain stuck in the 80's! I love metal, real metal and not that poison, cinderella **** either. I also love real country, the kind with an "o" in it, not that top 40 cuntry they spit out today.


yup "stuck" u chose the right word

I can't imagine how anyone could be stuck musically and be simultaneously alive tho.....jus sayin'

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