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Topic: The deficit Poll says most Americans want both taxes and cut
Dragoness's photo
Tue 07/26/11 02:02 PM
Don't worry I will not look for you when he ends up in office for another 4. I am just not that kind of woman.

Reason he will stay in is that....


The spending kept us out of a depression like the economists said it would, so Obama made the right call on this.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 07/26/11 02:28 PM

Don't worry I will not look for you when he ends up in office for another 4. I am just not that kind of woman.

Reason he will stay in is that....


The spending kept us out of a depression like the economists said it would, so Obama made the right call on this.



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mightymoe's photo
Tue 07/26/11 02:33 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — The wealth gaps between whites and minorities have grown to their widest levels in a quarter-century. The recession and uneven recovery have erased decades of minority gains, leaving whites on average with 20 times the net worth of blacks and 18 times that of Hispanics, according to an analysis of new Census data.

The analysis shows the racial and ethnic impact of the economic meltdown, which ravaged housing values and sent unemployment soaring. It offers the most direct government evidence yet of the disparity between predominantly younger minorities whose main asset is their home and older whites who are more likely to have 401(k) retirement accounts or other stock holdings.

"What's pushing the wealth of whites is the rebound in the stock market and corporate savings, while younger Hispanics and African-Americans who bought homes in the last decade — because that was the American dream — are seeing big declines," said Timothy Smeeding, a University of Wisconsin-Madison professor who specializes in income inequality.

The median wealth of white U.S. households in 2009 was $113,149, compared with $6,325 for Hispanics and $5,677 for blacks, according to the analysis released Tuesday by the Pew Research Center. Those ratios, roughly 20 to 1 for blacks and 18 to 1 for Hispanics, far exceed the low mark of 7 to 1 for both groups reached in 1995, when the nation's economic expansion lifted many low-income groups to the middle class.

The white-black wealth gap is also the widest since the census began tracking such data in 1984, when the ratio was roughly 12 to 1.

"I am afraid that this pushes us back to what the Kerner Commission characterized as 'two societies, separate and unequal,'" said Roderick Harrison, a former chief of racial statistics at the Census Bureau, referring to the 1960s presidential commission that examined U.S. race relations. "The great difference is that the second society has now become both black and Hispanic."

Stock holdings play an important role in the economic well-being of white households. Stock funds, IRA and Keogh accounts as well as 401(k) and savings accounts were responsible for 28 percent of whites' net worth, compared with 19 percent for blacks and 15 percent for Hispanics.

According to the Pew study, the housing boom of the early to mid-2000s boosted the wealth of Hispanics in particular, who were disproportionately employed in the thriving construction industry. Hispanics also were more likely to live and buy homes in states such as California, Florida, Nevada and Arizona, which were in the forefront of the real estate bubble, enjoying early gains in home values.

But those gains quickly shriveled in the housing bust. After reaching a median wealth of $18,359 in 2005, the wealth of Hispanics — who derived nearly two-thirds of their net worth from home equity — declined by 66 percent by 2009. Among blacks, who now have the highest unemployment rate at 16.2 percent, their household wealth fell 53 percent from $12,124 to $5,677.

In contrast, the median household wealth of whites dipped a modest 16 percent from $134,992 to $113,149, cushioned in part by a stock market recovery that began in mid-2009.

"The findings are a reminder — if one was needed — of what a large share of blacks and Hispanics live on the economic margins," said Paul Taylor, director of Pew Social & Demographic Trends. "When the economy tanked, they're the groups that took the heaviest blows."

i suppose this has nothing to do with obama, huh?

http://news.yahoo.com/wealth-gap-widens-between-whites-minorities-040224418.html

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 07/26/11 04:25 PM



This self-imposed debt ceiling crisis is a wet dream for those
who care more about scoring Democratic political points than
about putting our financial house in order.

No where else to put the blame. Republicans will regret it.


Several months ago Obama met with Bill Clinton and it was thought that Bill's ability to blame Newt's house successfully on the debt ceiling issue could be copied by Obama. It would appear that the lesson was learned well and the blame will go squarely on the GOP even while Obama is spending money like a drunken sailor.


I object and take exception to everyone saying that Obama is spending money like a drunken sailor. As a former drunken sailor, I quit spending when I ran out of money!



YES!!!:banana:

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 07/26/11 04:36 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) — The wealth gaps between whites and minorities have grown to their widest levels in a quarter-century. The recession and uneven recovery have erased decades of minority gains, leaving whites on average with 20 times the net worth of blacks and 18 times that of Hispanics, according to an analysis of new Census data.

The analysis shows the racial and ethnic impact of the economic meltdown, which ravaged housing values and sent unemployment soaring. It offers the most direct government evidence yet of the disparity between predominantly younger minorities whose main asset is their home and older whites who are more likely to have 401(k) retirement accounts or other stock holdings.

"What's pushing the wealth of whites is the rebound in the stock market and corporate savings, while younger Hispanics and African-Americans who bought homes in the last decade — because that was the American dream — are seeing big declines," said Timothy Smeeding, a University of Wisconsin-Madison professor who specializes in income inequality.

The median wealth of white U.S. households in 2009 was $113,149, compared with $6,325 for Hispanics and $5,677 for blacks, according to the analysis released Tuesday by the Pew Research Center. Those ratios, roughly 20 to 1 for blacks and 18 to 1 for Hispanics, far exceed the low mark of 7 to 1 for both groups reached in 1995, when the nation's economic expansion lifted many low-income groups to the middle class.

The white-black wealth gap is also the widest since the census began tracking such data in 1984, when the ratio was roughly 12 to 1.

"I am afraid that this pushes us back to what the Kerner Commission characterized as 'two societies, separate and unequal,'" said Roderick Harrison, a former chief of racial statistics at the Census Bureau, referring to the 1960s presidential commission that examined U.S. race relations. "The great difference is that the second society has now become both black and Hispanic."

Stock holdings play an important role in the economic well-being of white households. Stock funds, IRA and Keogh accounts as well as 401(k) and savings accounts were responsible for 28 percent of whites' net worth, compared with 19 percent for blacks and 15 percent for Hispanics.

According to the Pew study, the housing boom of the early to mid-2000s boosted the wealth of Hispanics in particular, who were disproportionately employed in the thriving construction industry. Hispanics also were more likely to live and buy homes in states such as California, Florida, Nevada and Arizona, which were in the forefront of the real estate bubble, enjoying early gains in home values.

But those gains quickly shriveled in the housing bust. After reaching a median wealth of $18,359 in 2005, the wealth of Hispanics — who derived nearly two-thirds of their net worth from home equity — declined by 66 percent by 2009. Among blacks, who now have the highest unemployment rate at 16.2 percent, their household wealth fell 53 percent from $12,124 to $5,677.

In contrast, the median household wealth of whites dipped a modest 16 percent from $134,992 to $113,149, cushioned in part by a stock market recovery that began in mid-2009.

"The findings are a reminder — if one was needed — of what a large share of blacks and Hispanics live on the economic margins," said Paul Taylor, director of Pew Social & Demographic Trends. "When the economy tanked, they're the groups that took the heaviest blows."

i suppose this has nothing to do with obama, huh?

http://news.yahoo.com/wealth-gap-widens-between-whites-minorities-040224418.html


This illustrates how people are educated differently about money. Successful blacks look at what the whites do right for their work model. They follow more prudent investment and saving strategies that don't involve taking chances to get that fast buck or buy into a market that has gone artificially high. Even I was saying before this bubble burst that something was going to happen because of skyrocketing property values. Now all these quasi millionaires AND WHITE STOCK PLAYERS AND INVESTORS ARE EATING COCQUE RIGHT NOW NATION WIDE TOO MIND YOU! Their investments lost interest! Hispanics got the idea that buying property while the market was high was a good investment. Now they are upside down and no recovery in sight. Great idea, bad timing!

Look at all these azzholes buying gold right now. Fact, you can't eat gold. Gold cannot cure you. And in a world where money becomes worthless gold does too. I can see things becoming so bad that in order for people to eat it will be barter and it will be a matter of what you got to trade. Grew some pot? You got yourself a tradeable commodity! Tghat watch you are wearing is tradeable. Got drinking water? In some areas that would be worth far more than gold. Can you help people set up a water recovery and filtration system? THAT IS TRADEABLE LABOR! I got me a built in way of trading to keep fed!

People don't get it. Gold isn't the only commodity that there is to capitalize on. And our economy does not revolve around Gold's value any more.

Another fact, the only guy who profits from gold's high price is the guy selling it! Buying high is not investing! It is actually loosing money!

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