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Topic: Al Qaida does not exist.
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Mon 07/11/11 07:43 AM

"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this.

"But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism.

"The country behind this propaganda is the US . . ." - Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook


These quotes are actually from Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former french intelligence agent who was convicted of treason for passing documents to Serbian colonel Jovan Milanovic.

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Mon 07/11/11 07:47 AM



Definition of terrorism:
2) Technique used by Governments to manipulate public opinion in order to further an agenda.



another definition of terrorism:


'the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce.'


no mention of the word 'governments' al queda damn sure dose exist.


Indeed, the definition previously given seems to fit Propaganda, not Terrorism. No one ever referred to the USSR, or China, or North Korea, or Angola, or Cuba, or Albania as terrorist states. They have been referred to as Totalitarian.

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Mon 07/11/11 12:23 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 07/11/11 12:24 PM
Today, anyone who dissents or does battle against tyranny is likely to be called "terrorist."

This is what the world is coming to.


When corruption overtakes the entire world and revolution is in order to restore freedom, the revolutionaries will be called "terrorists."

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Mon 07/11/11 12:31 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 07/11/11 12:32 PM
When you hear the Rothschild owned media spreading "news" and propaganda about some organization called "Al Qaida" they are just spreading FEAR. That's what they do.

That's what terrorism is. Spreading fear.

Without an enemy to scare you, they can't take away your privacy or your rights. They can't convince you to give them the power to do anything they want.

They have to scare you.

You are afraid. Fear and ignorance is their weapon.

They are the terrorists.


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Mon 07/11/11 01:57 PM

When you hear the Rothschild owned media spreading "news" and propaganda about some organization called "Al Qaida" they are just spreading FEAR. That's what they do.

That's what terrorism is. Spreading fear.

Without an enemy to scare you, they can't take away your privacy or your rights. They can't convince you to give them the power to do anything they want.

They have to scare you.

You are afraid. Fear and ignorance is their weapon.

They are the terrorists.




I am in total concurrence with your premise of spreading fear allows for the government to pass ludicrous laws like the patriot act.

However, I refuse to blame one family or some other nefarious shadowy group for it.

Blame the people actually responsible. The US government.

They are a wholly reactive, slow moving, money wasting bureaucracy that has very little capacity to effectively look at what is going on in the world and plan or implement anything in a proactive or swift manner.

It is really a pathetic joke.









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Mon 07/11/11 02:00 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 07/11/11 02:01 PM
The US government is certainly part of it, but they are not the controllers. They are the puppets. It is the entity that prints the money and controls the banks that/who are in control. There are many families.... Rothschilds, Rockefellas... many more.

They control the government and the media and the terrorists.

THEY FINANCE ALL THE WARS. They cause the wars on purpose.

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Mon 07/11/11 02:07 PM

When you hear the Rothschild owned media spreading "news" and propaganda about some organization called "Al Qaida" they are just spreading FEAR. That's what they do.

That's what terrorism is. Spreading fear.

Without an enemy to scare you, they can't take away your privacy or your rights. They can't convince you to give them the power to do anything they want.

They have to scare you.

You are afraid. Fear and ignorance is their weapon.

They are the terrorists.




why do you have to make every thread the same thread? can't you keep the same topic in one thread? there are 2 rothchild threads, and you have to start it in here too?

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Mon 07/11/11 03:43 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 07/11/11 03:45 PM
I'm like a pitbull. Once I get my teeth in someone's *** I can't let go. laugh tongue2

Besides I was responding to the "one family" thing in the previous post by InvictusV.






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Mon 07/11/11 04:34 PM




Definition of terrorism:
2) Technique used by Governments to manipulate public opinion in order to further an agenda.



another definition of terrorism:


'the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce.'


no mention of the word 'governments' al queda damn sure dose exist.


Indeed, the definition previously given seems to fit Propaganda, not Terrorism. No one ever referred to the USSR, or China, or North Korea, or Angola, or Cuba, or Albania as terrorist states. They have been referred to as Totalitarian.


yes, and the kkk, which is not a government, is high up on the fbi list of terrorist organizations.

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Mon 07/11/11 04:41 PM

Today, anyone who dissents or does battle against tyranny is likely to be called "terrorist."


absurd, jeannie. are we called terrorists because we ousted the taliban in afghanistan? were the allies called terrorists for waring against hitler?

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Mon 07/11/11 04:50 PM
funny, Al-Qaida is one of the only terror organizations that all the nations listed name as a terror threat...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations

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Mon 07/11/11 04:55 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 07/11/11 04:56 PM


Today, anyone who dissents or does battle against tyranny is likely to be called "terrorist."


absurd, jeannie. are we called terrorists because we ousted the taliban in afghanistan? were the allies called terrorists for waring against hitler?


I'm talking about the Israeli and American (black op) operations in third world countries to depose governments or dictators, presidents etc. so they can install a government that will cooperate with their plan for globalization and so-called democracy -- or whatever government or dictatorship they can find that will cooperate and join the world of capitalism to globalize the world trade, credit, etc.

There's nothing absurd about it.





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Mon 07/11/11 10:53 PM

funny, Al-Qaida is one of the only terror organizations that all the nations listed name as a terror threat...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations


They don't want to listen to facts or logic.

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Tue 07/12/11 05:02 AM

gennie, you've done something here that i don't think i've ever seen on any forum site. as your original post contained YOUR definition of torrorism, look up the definition of 'strawman argument.' that's exactly what you've done here IN YOUR OWN THREAD. you began with a false premise, your definition of terrorism, and now continue the line when everybody here has determined your premis to be false in the first place.

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Tue 07/12/11 05:07 AM

When you hear the Rothschild owned media spreading "news" and propaganda about some organization called "Al Qaida" they are just spreading FEAR. That's what they do.

That's what terrorism is. Spreading fear.


in the immortal words of ronald reagan, 'well, there ya go again.' nobody has accepted your primis that the media is owned by rothschild.

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Tue 07/12/11 09:40 AM
As I understand it, "Al Qaeda" translates roughly to "The List", which is exactly how it started. Those on "The List" were foreign personnel the CIA had relied on for many years for operations the U.S. could not participate in publicly or "black flag" operations that would implicate other organizations and cause, or perpetuate, conflicts throughout the Middle East whose outcomes would benefit the U.S.

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Tue 07/12/11 09:44 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 07/12/11 09:49 AM


gennie, you've done something here that i don't think i've ever seen on any forum site. as your original post contained YOUR definition of torrorism, look up the definition of 'strawman argument.' that's exactly what you've done here IN YOUR OWN THREAD. you began with a false premise, your definition of terrorism, and now continue the line when everybody here has determined your premis to be false in the first place.


jrbogie.

You know, this is just a suggestion. Some browsers have spell check.
I'm not a very good speller myself, but I do use spell check and write coherent sentences.

If by "gennie" you are talking to Jeanniebean. if not, then,

NEVERMIND.

P.S.

As for my so-called "false premise" or definition of terrorism, that is just an opinion that I happen to agree with.

I don't really care about what "everybody here" has "determined."

That too is just their opinions.

Besides, "everybody here" has not determined that.



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