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Edited by
FrankWheat
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Sorry for the odd format.
% of obese adults in all 50 states. Mississippi 34.4 Alabama 32.3 West Virginia 32.2 Tennessee 31.9 Louisiana 31.6 Kentucky 31.5 Oklahoma 31.4 South Carolina 30.9 Arkansas 30.6 Michigan 30.5 Missouri 30.3 Texas 30.1 Ohio 29.6 North Carolina 29.4 Indiana 29.1 Kansas 29.0 Georgia 28.7 South Dakota 28.7 Pennsylvania 28.5 Iowa 28.1 Delaware 28.0 North Dakota 28.0 Illinois 27.7 Nebraska 27.6 Wisconsin 27.4 Washington 26.4 Florida 26.1 Alaska 25.9 Virginia 25.9 Maine 26.5 Idaho 25.7 New Hampshire 25.6 New Mexico 25.6 Arizona 25.4 Oregon 25.4 Wyoming 25.4 Minnesota 25.3 Nevada 25.0 California 24.8 New York 24.7 Rhode Island 24.3 New Jersey 24.1 Montana 23.8 Vermont 23.5 Utah 23.4 Hawaii 23.1 Massachusetts 22.3 Connecticut 21.8 District of Columbia 21.7 Colorado 19.8 |
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And your point is ...?
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You're missing a state.
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30.1 %
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There are alot of plush people out there Frank.
Everywhere. Are you forgainst them or what? |
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Let's go kick their hairy fat azzes!!!!
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We like to eat in Kentucky. Chit now I got the munchies......
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Being thin doesn't necessarily mean you're healthy either ...
Technically, I'm considered obese. I weigh over 25% of what is deemed "healthy" by the insurance charts. However, I eat right, exercise, meditate, rest and laugh a lot. My latest analysis says that my blood is similar to a 30 year old's (I'm 53) and I have no narrowing or blockages to the arteries in my heart. I rarely ever get sick. I know skinny people who eat a lot of junk, smoke dope and the only exercise they get is raising a cigarette or a beer can to their lips. You can't tell me they're healthier than I am, just because they're thinner. There are different reasons for being overweight, other than stuffing your face. |
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The main reason for obesity is a change in diet. The US has undergone a dramatic change over the past 100 years. What used to be the standard (a plate of food containing a reasonable portion of protein and some vegetables) has turned into pizza, burgers, and fries to the extent that thousands of calories get added unnoticed each year. The addition of high fructose corn syrup to most processed food adds additional empty calories and creates a craving for the same junk.
Vendors are now selling junk food at public schools and high sugar items such as chocolate milk are offered as normal food instead of a treat. Countries who have adopted American style eating habits and menus are getting fat too. A small minority of the population will gain weight due to genetics but the vast majority simply eats the wrong type and amount of food, and gets too little exercise. The US government subsidizes low nutrient food like corn which make high fructose corn syrup super cheap (push that soda!). High nutrient density foods like cantaloupe, broccoli, and spinach get little or no subsidy so cost a lot more per calorie. And then there are the marketing aspects. How can diet mayo cost more than real mayo when they substitute water for much of the fat? Fat cost more than water! Why? Because people with pay more for anything with the word "diet" printed on the label. Gads I'm hungry! I think I'll go get a double cheeseburger ... nature's most perfect food! 
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I totally agree with that last part Metal.
How are low income families (who by the way still make to much for government assistance) supposed to eat healthy when they can't afford too. It is much cheaper to go and buy a bag of chips and a soda then it is to buy vegetables. |
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I totally agree with that last part Metal. How are low income families (who by the way still make to much for government assistance) supposed to eat healthy when they can't afford too. It is much cheaper to go and buy a bag of chips and a soda then it is to buy vegetables. That is a fact I was alluding to. Rice and beans are cheap but you have to eat too much of them to get enough balanced protein. Soybeans have balanced protein but are expensive. Cheap cuts of meat are actually lower in fat than expensive cuts. There are solutions. Eggs are cheap and have the purist form of protein available. Education helps a lot by knowing how to balance a menu with filling and nutritious foods. A parent should know what their kids are eating and be prepared to provide an adequate amount of protein, fat, carbs, vitamins, etc. Modern labels are pretty good about telling what is in a serving and how big a serving is. Of course some are just stupid like a can of juice with one and one half servings! Good grief, everybody just drinks the container! Obviously, most people don't have the time or inclination to sit down every evening and calculate all the calories and nutrients the family ate that day but doing it once could change some attitudes about that coke and Doritos and maybe switch to the dollar menu chicken sandwich instead. In Europe, the governments generally subsidize the farms and farmers, not the crop. A small farmer quickly learns he can make more money growing broccoli than corn ... if there is a market. The government should focus on small farmers, not agribusiness like Monsanto. Breakfast cereals with added sugar should be avoided. A box of healthy cereal generally costs about the same as the junk version. A healthy start to each day makes a big difference in total caloric intake. Americans eat too many calories and not enough nutrients. |
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I was blown away when I would drop off or pick up my boys from school and see all the fat kids...really sad. At least half of the kids were overweight, probably more.
Back in the day there was the one or two kids that were fat..poor things were teased so bad. I do think soda, pop, whatever it's called in your area is really bad for the kids. My youngest got drinking too much while he was in high school, gained weight quick. As soon as I got him off the soda, the weight came right off. He had a full on addiction to it. I can pretty much eat what I want as long as I keep moving. |
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I totally agree with that last part Metal. How are low income families (who by the way still make to much for government assistance) supposed to eat healthy when they can't afford too. It is much cheaper to go and buy a bag of chips and a soda then it is to buy vegetables. That is a fact I was alluding to. Rice and beans are cheap but you have to eat too much of them to get enough balanced protein. Soybeans have balanced protein but are expensive. Cheap cuts of meat are actually lower in fat than expensive cuts. There are solutions. Eggs are cheap and have the purist form of protein available. Education helps a lot by knowing how to balance a menu with filling and nutritious foods. A parent should know what their kids are eating and be prepared to provide an adequate amount of protein, fat, carbs, vitamins, etc. Modern labels are pretty good about telling what is in a serving and how big a serving is. Of course some are just stupid like a can of juice with one and one half servings! Good grief, everybody just drinks the container! Obviously, most people don't have the time or inclination to sit down every evening and calculate all the calories and nutrients the family ate that day but doing it once could change some attitudes about that coke and Doritos and maybe switch to the dollar menu chicken sandwich instead. In Europe, the governments generally subsidize the farms and farmers, not the crop. A small farmer quickly learns he can make more money growing broccoli than corn ... if there is a market. The government should focus on small farmers, not agribusiness like Monsanto. Breakfast cereals with added sugar should be avoided. A box of healthy cereal generally costs about the same as the junk version. A healthy start to each day makes a big difference in total caloric intake. Americans eat too many calories and not enough nutrients. I agree. You are very well informed, Metalwing. My family and I are low income, but we eat about 80% raw: mostly fruits and vegetables, very little "white" or processed foods and one cooked meal a day. We rarely eat cereal and bread, only certain types of dairy, and few grains. The diet sounds limited (think "paleo") but really it's healthier. |
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Edited by
Spidercmb
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Fri 07/08/11 10:55 AM
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Using BMI to determine obesity is "racist". It's accurate for whites, but not most minorities. What you should be concerned with is your %fat, BMI is just a number.
Notice that states with more blacks and hispanics also have higher obesity levels? That's because blacks and hispanics are naturally thicker than whites and their BMI skews to obese. A healthy black man or woman with 10% body fat will show up as obese every time. |
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Breakfast cereals with added sugar should be avoided. Grape nuts aren't sweetened, lets look at that. Table sugar has a glycemic index of 65, Grape Nuts have a glycemic index of 71 (meaning it has more glucose than table sugar). There aren't any healthy breakfast cereals, grains are mostly empty carbs (sugar). Have a couple fried eggs, some preservative free bacon (you can get it at CostCo and I'm sure other places) and a couple pickles for breakfast, it's a lot healthier than grains or cereals. |
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I totally agree with that last part Metal. How are low income families (who by the way still make to much for government assistance) supposed to eat healthy when they can't afford too. It is much cheaper to go and buy a bag of chips and a soda then it is to buy vegetables. That is a fact I was alluding to. Rice and beans are cheap but you have to eat too much of them to get enough balanced protein. Soybeans have balanced protein but are expensive. Cheap cuts of meat are actually lower in fat than expensive cuts. There are solutions. Eggs are cheap and have the purist form of protein available. Education helps a lot by knowing how to balance a menu with filling and nutritious foods. A parent should know what their kids are eating and be prepared to provide an adequate amount of protein, fat, carbs, vitamins, etc. Modern labels are pretty good about telling what is in a serving and how big a serving is. Of course some are just stupid like a can of juice with one and one half servings! Good grief, everybody just drinks the container! Obviously, most people don't have the time or inclination to sit down every evening and calculate all the calories and nutrients the family ate that day but doing it once could change some attitudes about that coke and Doritos and maybe switch to the dollar menu chicken sandwich instead. In Europe, the governments generally subsidize the farms and farmers, not the crop. A small farmer quickly learns he can make more money growing broccoli than corn ... if there is a market. The government should focus on small farmers, not agribusiness like Monsanto. Breakfast cereals with added sugar should be avoided. A box of healthy cereal generally costs about the same as the junk version. A healthy start to each day makes a big difference in total caloric intake. Americans eat too many calories and not enough nutrients. I agree. You are very well informed, Metalwing. My family and I are low income, but we eat about 80% raw: mostly fruits and vegetables, very little "white" or processed foods and one cooked meal a day. We rarely eat cereal and bread, only certain types of dairy, and few grains. The diet sounds limited (think "paleo") but really it's healthier. I know what you mean. You are eating the way we were meant to eat. Oddly, the high carb, low nutrient diets many eat are similar to the diet we use to fatten hogs. The world would be a healthier place if high fructose corn syrup was never invented. Sugar is addictive, empty of nutrients, and leads to diabetes. Grains were never meant to be the "staff of life", especially if you plan on living long. Whole grains, in moderation, are good for you. Fruits and vegetables are much better. The "white stuff" is just junk your body can do without unless you are in full blown starvation. I read an article the other day about the number of complex compounds found in fruits and vegetables. The article was about the rising rate of cancer and what has changed in the last 100 years to our diet. Over 400 unique compounds were found in a strawberry. Similar amounts were found in other plants. Mankind used to eat a wide range of plants and now eats very few. There were some scary numbers given as to the amount of corn we consume each year... much of which is now genetically modified for growth, insect resistance, extra carbs, etc., but not for nutrition. Share your diet. Many haven't taken the time to learn what you have done. |
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The main reason for obesity is a change in diet. The US has undergone a dramatic change over the past 100 years. What used to be the standard (a plate of food containing a reasonable portion of protein and some vegetables) has turned into pizza, burgers, and fries to the extent that thousands of calories get added unnoticed each year. The addition of high fructose corn syrup to most processed food adds additional empty calories and creates a craving for the same junk. Vendors are now selling junk food at public schools and high sugar items such as chocolate milk are offered as normal food instead of a treat. Countries who have adopted American style eating habits and menus are getting fat too. A small minority of the population will gain weight due to genetics but the vast majority simply eats the wrong type and amount of food, and gets too little exercise. The US government subsidizes low nutrient food like corn which make high fructose corn syrup super cheap (push that soda!). High nutrient density foods like cantaloupe, broccoli, and spinach get little or no subsidy so cost a lot more per calorie. And then there are the marketing aspects. How can diet mayo cost more than real mayo when they substitute water for much of the fat? Fat cost more than water! Why? Because people with pay more for anything with the word "diet" printed on the label. Gads I'm hungry! I think I'll go get a double cheeseburger ... nature's most perfect food!
It is more than a small minority that have genetic or illness that causes obesity. I just want to know why people care about obesity if it ain't them being obese? Seems like this prejudice just won't die. It is wrong to be prejudice against others because of body mass no matter if it is their choices. Just think of it this way, if you are one of those obsessed with obesity of others, it will be more social security money for you in the end because they won't live to get theirs. Same for smoking. Same for risky hobbies. Same for walking out your front door, more so in certain neighborhoods, etc 
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