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.......a mature man should know by the time he turns 40
1. The difference between love and lust 2. How to change a tire, a diaper and a womans mind. 3. When to hold on when to let go. 4. Your capacity for intimacy and alcohol 5. Basic Carpentry, plumbing and automotive repair. 6. Advanced foreplay 7. At least one woman whose love for you besides your mother is enduring and substanstial 8. Trouble when you see it. 9. True love when you see it. 10. A load of bull when you hear it. 11. The symptoms of PMS 12. your Strengths and weaknesses 13.the Art of seduction 14. How to fast and slow dance. 15.Realize that your wife (lover, girlfriend) is not your mother. 16. A woman’s erogenous zones 17. How to negotiate the inevitable compromise of a romantic relationship in ways that keep both sides as happy as possible. 18. What you want out of life and how to go for it 19. Which medical test you need 20. How to make money, dinner, conversation and love. 21. How to start a fire in a hearth and a heart 22. A realistic plan to secure your retirement 23. How to unhook a bra with one hand - in the dark. 24. Where to get breakfast/gas/and a prescription at 2:00 in the morning 25. How to give a toast and receive a complement. 26. How to be gracious in victory and defeat 27. When to talk and when to listen. 28. At least one true friend who will be there for you whenever you call 29. The ten commandments 30. The fundamental workings of the female psych 31. The importance of trying to follow them 32. How to close a deal 33. Your way around a kitchen 34. The futility of unrequited love 35. How to open a bottle of champagne 36. What really matters 37. What doesn't. 38. the power and magic of a good woman. 39. What other people think of you. 40. Your own needs and another persons ability to fulfill them. |
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I'm wondering if it wouldn't also be helpful for a mature woman to know exactly the same things?
I read down the list and was ticking them off for myself...  
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I think it's a good list but rather than seeing it as a list of expectations I think it should be used as a personal checklist as Jess had suggested
or a maturity checklist - if you can undertand this list and the guy you're seeing cannot???? ummm....may be time to rethink some things and most if not all of the items on the list can apply to both genders - a few of them I see as applying mostly to men - like knowing female erogenous zones and plumbing
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Crap and more Crap
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Oh, I almost forgot, women are not qualified to define Manhood.
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boy, you don't want much, do you ?
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boy, you don't want much, do you ? 
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Crap and more Crap Something tells me you don't fit into most of those, since you think it's crap. |
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women are not qualified to define Manhood.
so its crap |
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Maybe if you were a bit more secure in your manhood, you wouldn't be offended?
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Perhaps you'd like to explain manhood to me, since you think Im offended.
Truth is: let women define manhood and we get "Nice Guys"; the kind you don't want because their wishy-washy milkly-toast amoebas. No fire in the belly, no guts, no will, your favorite door mat. Now do you think Men should define Womanhood? Am I qualified? |
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.......a mature man should know by the time he turns 40 1. The difference between love and lust 2. How to change a tire, a diaper and a womans mind. 3. When to hold on when to let go. 4. Your capacity for intimacy and alcohol 5. Basic Carpentry, plumbing and automotive repair. 6. Advanced foreplay 7. At least one woman whose love for you besides your mother is enduring and substanstial 8. Trouble when you see it. 9. True love when you see it. 10. A load of bull when you hear it. 11. The symptoms of PMS 12. your Strengths and weaknesses 13.the Art of seduction 14. How to fast and slow dance. 15.Realize that your wife (lover, girlfriend) is not your mother. 16. A woman’s erogenous zones 17. How to negotiate the inevitable compromise of a romantic relationship in ways that keep both sides as happy as possible. 18. What you want out of life and how to go for it 19. Which medical test you need 20. How to make money, dinner, conversation and love. 21. How to start a fire in a hearth and a heart 22. A realistic plan to secure your retirement 23. How to unhook a bra with one hand - in the dark. 24. Where to get breakfast/gas/and a prescription at 2:00 in the morning 25. How to give a toast and receive a complement. 26. How to be gracious in victory and defeat 27. When to talk and when to listen. 28. At least one true friend who will be there for you whenever you call 29. The ten commandments 30. The fundamental workings of the female psych 31. The importance of trying to follow them 32. How to close a deal 33. Your way around a kitchen 34. The futility of unrequited love 35. How to open a bottle of champagne 36. What really matters 37. What doesn't. 38. the power and magic of a good woman. 39. What other people think of you. 40. Your own needs and another persons ability to fulfill them. Do you want a man or a robot? Those are pretty ambitious expectations! It is too much for any human being! |
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.......a mature man should know by the time he turns 40 2. How to change a tire, a diaper and a womans mind. I'd argue this on the grounds that there is not now, nor will there ever be, any reason for me to know how to change a diaper. As for changing a woman's mind, I don't see that as my job. 4. Your capacity for intimacy and alcohol I find it a little disturbing that these are linked in this way. But then I don't drink, so I guess my capacity for alcohol is zero. 7. At least one woman whose love for you besides your mother is enduring and substanstial It would be nice, but I haven't got it. Does that make me immature? I don't know.... 14. How to fast and slow dance. I can't think of anything more irrelevant to my life. Except maybe changing a diaper. 20. How to make money, dinner, conversation and love. I can't cook at all, and it doesn't matter. 28. At least one true friend who will be there for you whenever you call Again, it would be nice but I don't have that. I really don't see how that makes me immature, per se. 29. The ten commandments I'd argue this one, too. Religion = maturity? I see some problems there. 30. The fundamental workings of the female psych If men knew this, we wouldn't have all these problems. 33. Your way around a kitchen I'm fine as long as I don't bump into the table. 35. How to open a bottle of champagne No thanks. 36. What really matters 37. What doesn't. Diapers, champagne, cooking, and dancing don't matter to me. Now I've thrown a wrench into the whole equation. 38. the power and magic of a good woman. I'll let you know when one turns up. 39. What other people think of you. They're gonna think what they're gonna think. If I wasted any time worrying about it, I'd never get anything done. 40. Your own needs and another persons ability to fulfill them. I know my own needs and I know no one has the ability to fulfill them. So I guess I got one point, anyway. |
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I think that list is a bit out there but however it is only one person's opinion and doesn't speak for all women.
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.......a mature man should know by the time he turns 40 2. How to change a tire, a diaper and a womans mind. I'd argue this on the grounds that there is not now, nor will there ever be, any reason for me to know how to change a diaper. As for changing a woman's mind, I don't see that as my job. 4. Your capacity for intimacy and alcohol I find it a little disturbing that these are linked in this way. But then I don't drink, so I guess my capacity for alcohol is zero. 7. At least one woman whose love for you besides your mother is enduring and substanstial It would be nice, but I haven't got it. Does that make me immature? I don't know.... 14. How to fast and slow dance. I can't think of anything more irrelevant to my life. Except maybe changing a diaper. 20. How to make money, dinner, conversation and love. I can't cook at all, and it doesn't matter. 28. At least one true friend who will be there for you whenever you call Again, it would be nice but I don't have that. I really don't see how that makes me immature, per se. 29. The ten commandments I'd argue this one, too. Religion = maturity? I see some problems there. 30. The fundamental workings of the female psych If men knew this, we wouldn't have all these problems. 33. Your way around a kitchen I'm fine as long as I don't bump into the table. 35. How to open a bottle of champagne No thanks. 36. What really matters 37. What doesn't. Diapers, champagne, cooking, and dancing don't matter to me. Now I've thrown a wrench into the whole equation. 38. the power and magic of a good woman. I'll let you know when one turns up. 39. What other people think of you. They're gonna think what they're gonna think. If I wasted any time worrying about it, I'd never get anything done. 40. Your own needs and another persons ability to fulfill them. I know my own needs and I know no one has the ability to fulfill them. So I guess I got one point, anyway. I second most of these, Lex 
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 WOWSER now that's a list!
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To Dream The Impossible Dream. . . . . .
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.......a mature man should know by the time he turns 40 2. How to change a tire, a diaper and a womans mind. I'd argue this on the grounds that there is not now, nor will there ever be, any reason for me to know how to change a diaper. As for changing a woman's mind, I don't see that as my job. 4. Your capacity for intimacy and alcohol I find it a little disturbing that these are linked in this way. But then I don't drink, so I guess my capacity for alcohol is zero. 7. At least one woman whose love for you besides your mother is enduring and substanstial It would be nice, but I haven't got it. Does that make me immature? I don't know.... 14. How to fast and slow dance. I can't think of anything more irrelevant to my life. Except maybe changing a diaper. 20. How to make money, dinner, conversation and love. I can't cook at all, and it doesn't matter. 28. At least one true friend who will be there for you whenever you call Again, it would be nice but I don't have that. I really don't see how that makes me immature, per se. 29. The ten commandments I'd argue this one, too. Religion = maturity? I see some problems there. 30. The fundamental workings of the female psych If men knew this, we wouldn't have all these problems. 33. Your way around a kitchen I'm fine as long as I don't bump into the table. 35. How to open a bottle of champagne No thanks. 36. What really matters 37. What doesn't. Diapers, champagne, cooking, and dancing don't matter to me. Now I've thrown a wrench into the whole equation. 38. the power and magic of a good woman. I'll let you know when one turns up. 39. What other people think of you. They're gonna think what they're gonna think. If I wasted any time worrying about it, I'd never get anything done. 40. Your own needs and another persons ability to fulfill them. I know my own needs and I know no one has the ability to fulfill them. So I guess I got one point, anyway. I second most of these, Lex Thanks, Bry. I mean, what's the message here? "You're not mature unless you conform to MY priorities." How does THAT work? I could make up a bunch of arbitrary stipulations, too, and say you're not mature or you're not worthwhile or you're not productive or whatever unless you conform to MY standards, but that wouldn't prove anything except that I was intolerant and had an overblown view of my own value system. I guess I just don't see myself as being in a position to tell people how to be mature. I have my own perception of what that means and I really have no desire to impose it on anybody else. |
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.......a mature man should know by the time he turns 40 2. How to change a tire, a diaper and a womans mind. I'd argue this on the grounds that there is not now, nor will there ever be, any reason for me to know how to change a diaper. As for changing a woman's mind, I don't see that as my job. 4. Your capacity for intimacy and alcohol I find it a little disturbing that these are linked in this way. But then I don't drink, so I guess my capacity for alcohol is zero. 7. At least one woman whose love for you besides your mother is enduring and substanstial It would be nice, but I haven't got it. Does that make me immature? I don't know.... 14. How to fast and slow dance. I can't think of anything more irrelevant to my life. Except maybe changing a diaper. 20. How to make money, dinner, conversation and love. I can't cook at all, and it doesn't matter. 28. At least one true friend who will be there for you whenever you call Again, it would be nice but I don't have that. I really don't see how that makes me immature, per se. 29. The ten commandments I'd argue this one, too. Religion = maturity? I see some problems there. 30. The fundamental workings of the female psych If men knew this, we wouldn't have all these problems. 33. Your way around a kitchen I'm fine as long as I don't bump into the table. 35. How to open a bottle of champagne No thanks. 36. What really matters 37. What doesn't. Diapers, champagne, cooking, and dancing don't matter to me. Now I've thrown a wrench into the whole equation. 38. the power and magic of a good woman. I'll let you know when one turns up. 39. What other people think of you. They're gonna think what they're gonna think. If I wasted any time worrying about it, I'd never get anything done. 40. Your own needs and another persons ability to fulfill them. I know my own needs and I know no one has the ability to fulfill them. So I guess I got one point, anyway. I second most of these, Lex Thanks, Bry. I mean, what's the message here? "You're not mature unless you conform to MY priorities." How does THAT work? I could make up a bunch of arbitrary stipulations, too, and say you're not mature or you're not worthwhile or you're not productive or whatever unless you conform to MY standards, but that wouldn't prove anything except that I was intolerant and had an overblown view of my own value system. I guess I just don't see myself as being in a position to tell people how to be mature. I have my own perception of what that means and I really have no desire to impose it on anybody else. Exactly. Well said, Lex. |
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Perhaps you'd like to explain manhood to me, since you think Im offended. Truth is: let women define manhood and we get "Nice Guys"; the kind you don't want because their wishy-washy milkly-toast amoebas. No fire in the belly, no guts, no will, your favorite door mat. Now do you think Men should define Womanhood? Am I qualified? Lighten up a little.
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