Topic: The Oceans are Dying
metalwing's photo
Tue 04/12/11 11:13 AM
The topic is that the oceans are dying. We have taken the prime breeding areas for shrimp and fish and drained them. We are continuing to dump millions of tons of nitrogen into the oceans which pollutes and kills. We have developed fishing technology that easily catches fish till the fish are completely gone. They are almost gone now.

We are changing the chemistry of the oceans making them much more acid. Many types of shellfish are dissappearing because the ocean is dissolving their shells. There is a "Catch 22" with the ocean's ability to absorb CO2 from the atmosphere. As the shellfish die, their ability to absorb CO2 dies with them.

But I guess what this thread is really about is the fact that mankind knows the ocean is dying and isn't doing much to stop it.

no photo
Tue 04/12/11 06:30 PM
Well the obvious solution is a world dictator and to reduce the world population of humans by two thirds, which is what your new world order advocates have planned.

So here is yet another reason to support their agenda of a one world government.

Jess642's photo
Fri 04/15/11 10:01 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Fri 04/15/11 10:05 PM
In response to the sea turtle and dolphin's fatalities post...

"On April 20, 2010, BP's oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded into a burning fury that killed 11 workers and spewed 5 million barrels of oil into the Gulf Of mexico, making it the worst environmental disaster in US history and the world's largest accidental marine spill. One year on, the ramifications are still only just begiining....."

Emma Bowen, G Magazine Issue 31 April/May 2011...


the article goes on, from everyday local's veiwpoints of what is happening...as well as scientific and ecological studies currently being carried out.





I am surprised at how little anyone has considered the impact this has had on the ecology of the Atlantic....


Fish Stocks hit peak about 10 years ago....but everyone is too busy scrambling for oil peaks to consider that fishstocks have passed their peak, food supply has passed it's peak, and water, safe drinkable water is also past it's peak for sustainable existance of all life on Earth....not just humans.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/16/11 11:46 AM

In response to the sea turtle and dolphin's fatalities post...

"On April 20, 2010, BP's oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded into a burning fury that killed 11 workers and spewed 5 million barrels of oil into the Gulf Of mexico, making it the worst environmental disaster in US history and the world's largest accidental marine spill. One year on, the ramifications are still only just begiining....."

Emma Bowen, G Magazine Issue 31 April/May 2011...


the article goes on, from everyday local's veiwpoints of what is happening...as well as scientific and ecological studies currently being carried out.





I am surprised at how little anyone has considered the impact this has had on the ecology of the Atlantic....


Fish Stocks hit peak about 10 years ago....but everyone is too busy scrambling for oil peaks to consider that fishstocks have passed their peak, food supply has passed it's peak, and water, safe drinkable water is also past it's peak for sustainable existance of all life on Earth....not just humans.



5 million barrels? lol thats about 4-5 times lower than what it actually was...

Jess642's photo
Tue 04/19/11 12:53 AM
http://iucn.org/?7268%2FPlenty-more-fish-in-the-sea-Not-for-much-longer

s1owhand's photo
Tue 04/19/11 01:33 PM
I am working on a synthetic fish mcnugget which will solve world
hunger and reduce the world's dependence on ocean life!

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 04/19/11 03:44 PM
Synthy McNuggets


A synthetic fish McNugget
and Slowhand will debug it
he'll spice it up
and slice it up
so your hungry mouth will hug it

He'll save aquatic fishes
and appease Poseidon's wishes
and you will eat
synthetic meat
in all your seafood dishes

Slowhand's mind is lightening fast!
a solution he will cast
he'll save the sea from the franchisee
with Synthy McNuggets at last!

s1owhand's photo
Tue 04/19/11 04:20 PM
laugh

have missed you James...where have you bean?!

metalwing's photo
Tue 04/19/11 04:51 PM

laugh

have missed you James...where have you bean?!


Gone fishing? :smile:

metalwing's photo
Tue 04/19/11 06:30 PM



I am surprised at how little anyone has considered the impact this has had on the ecology of the Atlantic....


Fish Stocks hit peak about 10 years ago....but everyone is too busy scrambling for oil peaks to consider that fishstocks have passed their peak, food supply has passed it's peak, and water, safe drinkable water is also past it's peak for sustainable existance of all life on Earth....not just humans.


Actually there was a lot of discussion and concern about the oil sticking to the bottom of the gulf and then working it's way around Florida into the Atlantic.

Even if laws were passed and treaties were signed to stop the overfishing, there would be cheating just like there is now. This story does not have a happy ending. The Mediterranean will be the first to go.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/19/11 06:32 PM




I am surprised at how little anyone has considered the impact this has had on the ecology of the Atlantic....


Fish Stocks hit peak about 10 years ago....but everyone is too busy scrambling for oil peaks to consider that fishstocks have passed their peak, food supply has passed it's peak, and water, safe drinkable water is also past it's peak for sustainable existance of all life on Earth....not just humans.


Actually there was a lot of discussion and concern about the oil sticking to the bottom of the gulf and then working it's way around Florida into the Atlantic.

Even if laws were passed and treaties were signed to stop the overfishing, there would be cheating just like there is now. This story does not have a happy ending. The Mediterranean will be the first to go.


maybe it is time to invest in fish farm now...

Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/19/11 06:43 PM
In the big picture of things gay folks seem kinda environmentally healthy huh?

Also encouraging fish farms would be a big boon to save the wild life. I buy or eat farm fish.

Also we have to consider that like the dinosaurs, the time of the human may be ending. Humans can't seem to get the destructive gene out of their DNA. You know

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/19/11 06:50 PM

In the big picture of things gay folks seem kinda environmentally healthy huh?

Also encouraging fish farms would be a big boon to save the wild life. I buy or eat farm fish.

Also we have to consider that like the dinosaurs, the time of the human may be ending. Humans can't seem to get the destructive gene out of their DNA. You know


no, gay folks just seem gay to me...noway whoa

Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/19/11 07:02 PM


In the big picture of things gay folks seem kinda environmentally healthy huh?

Also encouraging fish farms would be a big boon to save the wild life. I buy or eat farm fish.

Also we have to consider that like the dinosaurs, the time of the human may be ending. Humans can't seem to get the destructive gene out of their DNA. You know


no, gay folks just seem gay to me...noway whoa


Of course smh lol

metalwing's photo
Wed 04/20/11 09:30 AM





I am surprised at how little anyone has considered the impact this has had on the ecology of the Atlantic....


Fish Stocks hit peak about 10 years ago....but everyone is too busy scrambling for oil peaks to consider that fishstocks have passed their peak, food supply has passed it's peak, and water, safe drinkable water is also past it's peak for sustainable existance of all life on Earth....not just humans.


Actually there was a lot of discussion and concern about the oil sticking to the bottom of the gulf and then working it's way around Florida into the Atlantic.

Even if laws were passed and treaties were signed to stop the overfishing, there would be cheating just like there is now. This story does not have a happy ending. The Mediterranean will be the first to go.


maybe it is time to invest in fish farm now...


That depends on the kind of fish. Tilapia eat plants so they work great in aquaculture. Salmon are predators so they need to be fed two to five pounds of fish caught to feed them per pound of fish farmed; which is not efficient.

Farmed shrimp are the worst. They clear mangrove swamps where fish breed for the farms.

Oysters are the best. They just sit there and filter water till they are harvested.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/20/11 07:17 PM
Hundreds of fish have been found dead in Ventura Harbor. This is the second large fish kill in Southern California this year. This time, hundreds of dead fish are floating in Ventura Harbor. The phone calls started coming into the Ventura Harbor Patrol around 6 a.m. Monday. Boaters were already noticing a large number of dead fish floating in the water. One officer said that in the past year, there have been three or four times that this has happened, and in recent days, he was worried that this was going to happen again. Once again, something's fishy along our Southern California coastline: Another fish die-off, this one in the Ventura Harbor. "It looks like the majority of them are anchovies and sardines and I saw a few perch though also," said Pat Hummer, senior patrol officer at the harbor. "We're talking thousands, there's a lot of fish." Hummer is the senior patrol officer for Ventura Harbor. He says the fish likely died from lack of oxygen. And he says he thought that for the past week, this might happen. "There was just a lot of baitfish in this harbor the last few days and when they all come in, they all suck up all that oxygen out of the water and that's when they start struggling," said Hummer.

Sea lions, seagulls, and pelicans have been swooping in to eat the fish. The rest are being cleaned up by the Ventura Harbor Patrol. "We got the majority," said Hummer. "We probably got 90-something percent of the dead fish out of the harbor. And I think Mother Nature, the birds, the sea lions will take care of hopefully the rest of them." This fish kill is on a much smaller scale compared to what was seen in Redondo Beach early last month when 2.5 million sardines were killed weighing roughly 175 tons. "Well we've taken and disposed of about 15 to 20 fifty-gallon barrels of dead fish," said Hummer. Because this is a relatively small number of anchovies and sardines, the Game and Fish Commission gave the Harbor Patrol the OK to go and dump the fish out at sea and let nature take its course, but there's still a lot of baitfish in the harbor and some of the officers were saying they are a little concerned that this might happen again Tuesday.


i wonder if this has anything to do with underwater gases escaping from the earth?

metalwing's photo
Wed 04/20/11 09:10 PM

Hundreds of fish have been found dead in Ventura Harbor. This is the second large fish kill in Southern California this year. This time, hundreds of dead fish are floating in Ventura Harbor. The phone calls started coming into the Ventura Harbor Patrol around 6 a.m. Monday. Boaters were already noticing a large number of dead fish floating in the water. One officer said that in the past year, there have been three or four times that this has happened, and in recent days, he was worried that this was going to happen again. Once again, something's fishy along our Southern California coastline: Another fish die-off, this one in the Ventura Harbor. "It looks like the majority of them are anchovies and sardines and I saw a few perch though also," said Pat Hummer, senior patrol officer at the harbor. "We're talking thousands, there's a lot of fish." Hummer is the senior patrol officer for Ventura Harbor. He says the fish likely died from lack of oxygen. And he says he thought that for the past week, this might happen. "There was just a lot of baitfish in this harbor the last few days and when they all come in, they all suck up all that oxygen out of the water and that's when they start struggling," said Hummer.

Sea lions, seagulls, and pelicans have been swooping in to eat the fish. The rest are being cleaned up by the Ventura Harbor Patrol. "We got the majority," said Hummer. "We probably got 90-something percent of the dead fish out of the harbor. And I think Mother Nature, the birds, the sea lions will take care of hopefully the rest of them." This fish kill is on a much smaller scale compared to what was seen in Redondo Beach early last month when 2.5 million sardines were killed weighing roughly 175 tons. "Well we've taken and disposed of about 15 to 20 fifty-gallon barrels of dead fish," said Hummer. Because this is a relatively small number of anchovies and sardines, the Game and Fish Commission gave the Harbor Patrol the OK to go and dump the fish out at sea and let nature take its course, but there's still a lot of baitfish in the harbor and some of the officers were saying they are a little concerned that this might happen again Tuesday.


i wonder if this has anything to do with underwater gases escaping from the earth?


It usually has to do with fertilizer runoff. An algae bloom occurs in the water which uses up the oxygen which kills the fish.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/20/11 09:17 PM


Hundreds of fish have been found dead in Ventura Harbor. This is the second large fish kill in Southern California this year. This time, hundreds of dead fish are floating in Ventura Harbor. The phone calls started coming into the Ventura Harbor Patrol around 6 a.m. Monday. Boaters were already noticing a large number of dead fish floating in the water. One officer said that in the past year, there have been three or four times that this has happened, and in recent days, he was worried that this was going to happen again. Once again, something's fishy along our Southern California coastline: Another fish die-off, this one in the Ventura Harbor. "It looks like the majority of them are anchovies and sardines and I saw a few perch though also," said Pat Hummer, senior patrol officer at the harbor. "We're talking thousands, there's a lot of fish." Hummer is the senior patrol officer for Ventura Harbor. He says the fish likely died from lack of oxygen. And he says he thought that for the past week, this might happen. "There was just a lot of baitfish in this harbor the last few days and when they all come in, they all suck up all that oxygen out of the water and that's when they start struggling," said Hummer.

Sea lions, seagulls, and pelicans have been swooping in to eat the fish. The rest are being cleaned up by the Ventura Harbor Patrol. "We got the majority," said Hummer. "We probably got 90-something percent of the dead fish out of the harbor. And I think Mother Nature, the birds, the sea lions will take care of hopefully the rest of them." This fish kill is on a much smaller scale compared to what was seen in Redondo Beach early last month when 2.5 million sardines were killed weighing roughly 175 tons. "Well we've taken and disposed of about 15 to 20 fifty-gallon barrels of dead fish," said Hummer. Because this is a relatively small number of anchovies and sardines, the Game and Fish Commission gave the Harbor Patrol the OK to go and dump the fish out at sea and let nature take its course, but there's still a lot of baitfish in the harbor and some of the officers were saying they are a little concerned that this might happen again Tuesday.


i wonder if this has anything to do with underwater gases escaping from the earth?


It usually has to do with fertilizer runoff. An algae bloom occurs in the water which uses up the oxygen which kills the fish.


i read that after i posted this...it seems there are a lot of dolphins and seals that are sick now to... they said the have treated half of them, and working on the rest... but they said it was the alge, but it didn't say anything about the fertilizer...

metalwing's photo
Wed 04/20/11 09:42 PM



Hundreds of fish have been found dead in Ventura Harbor. This is the second large fish kill in Southern California this year. This time, hundreds of dead fish are floating in Ventura Harbor. The phone calls started coming into the Ventura Harbor Patrol around 6 a.m. Monday. Boaters were already noticing a large number of dead fish floating in the water. One officer said that in the past year, there have been three or four times that this has happened, and in recent days, he was worried that this was going to happen again. Once again, something's fishy along our Southern California coastline: Another fish die-off, this one in the Ventura Harbor. "It looks like the majority of them are anchovies and sardines and I saw a few perch though also," said Pat Hummer, senior patrol officer at the harbor. "We're talking thousands, there's a lot of fish." Hummer is the senior patrol officer for Ventura Harbor. He says the fish likely died from lack of oxygen. And he says he thought that for the past week, this might happen. "There was just a lot of baitfish in this harbor the last few days and when they all come in, they all suck up all that oxygen out of the water and that's when they start struggling," said Hummer.

Sea lions, seagulls, and pelicans have been swooping in to eat the fish. The rest are being cleaned up by the Ventura Harbor Patrol. "We got the majority," said Hummer. "We probably got 90-something percent of the dead fish out of the harbor. And I think Mother Nature, the birds, the sea lions will take care of hopefully the rest of them." This fish kill is on a much smaller scale compared to what was seen in Redondo Beach early last month when 2.5 million sardines were killed weighing roughly 175 tons. "Well we've taken and disposed of about 15 to 20 fifty-gallon barrels of dead fish," said Hummer. Because this is a relatively small number of anchovies and sardines, the Game and Fish Commission gave the Harbor Patrol the OK to go and dump the fish out at sea and let nature take its course, but there's still a lot of baitfish in the harbor and some of the officers were saying they are a little concerned that this might happen again Tuesday.


i wonder if this has anything to do with underwater gases escaping from the earth?


It usually has to do with fertilizer runoff. An algae bloom occurs in the water which uses up the oxygen which kills the fish.


i read that after i posted this...it seems there are a lot of dolphins and seals that are sick now to... they said the have treated half of them, and working on the rest... but they said it was the alge, but it didn't say anything about the fertilizer...


The fertilizer is what the algae eat which makes them grow out of control. Some of the algae produce toxins too.

Jess642's photo
Wed 04/20/11 09:45 PM




I am surprised at how little anyone has considered the impact this has had on the ecology of the Atlantic....


Fish Stocks hit peak about 10 years ago....but everyone is too busy scrambling for oil peaks to consider that fishstocks have passed their peak, food supply has passed it's peak, and water, safe drinkable water is also past it's peak for sustainable existance of all life on Earth....not just humans.


Actually there was a lot of discussion and concern about the oil sticking to the bottom of the gulf and then working it's way around Florida into the Atlantic.

Even if laws were passed and treaties were signed to stop the overfishing, there would be cheating just like there is now. This story does not have a happy ending. The Mediterranean will be the first to go.



I am sure I posted a link to exactly that up there.....?

AM I writing in invisible ink again?huh