Deut 18:10-14
0 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft , or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to Yahweh, and because of these abominations Yahweh your Elohim drives them out from before you. 13 You shall be blameless before Yahweh your Elohim. 14 For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, Yahweh your Elohim has not appointed such for you.
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1 Sam 15:23
3 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft ,
And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because you have rejected the word of Yahweh,
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2 Kings 17:16-17
6 So they left all the commandments of Yahweh their Elohim, made for themselves a molded image and two calves, made a wooden image and worshiped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. 17 And they caused their sons and daughters to pass through the fire, practiced witchcraft and soothsaying, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of Yahweh, to provoke Him to anger
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2 Kings 21:6
6 Also he made his son pass through the fire, practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft , and consulted spiritists and mediums.
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2 Chron 33:5-6
6 Also he caused his sons to pass through the fire in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom; he practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft and sorcery, and consulted mediums and spiritists.
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kashaph

OT:3784 kashaph (kaw-shaf'); a primitive root; properly, to whisper a spell, i.e. to inchant or practise magic:


KJV - sorcerer, (use) witch (-craft).
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)


Repressed memory is a hypothetical concept used to describe a significant memory, usually of a traumatic nature, that has become unavailable for recall; also called motivated forgetting in which a subject blocks out painful or traumatic times in one's life. This is not the same as amnesia, which is a term for any instance in which memories are either not stored in the first place (such as with traumatic head injuries when short term memory does not transfer to long term memory) or forgotten.[1]

The term is used to describe memories that have been dissociated from awareness as well as those that have been repressed without dissociation. Repressed memory syndrome, the clinical term used to describe repressed memories, is often compared to psychogenic amnesia, and some sources compare the two as equivalent.[2]

According to proponents of the hypothesis, repressed memories may sometimes be recovered years or decades after the event, most often spontaneously, triggered by a particular smell, taste, or other identifier related to the lost memory, or via suggestion during psychotherapy.[3]

The existence of repressed memories is a controversial topic in psychology; some studies have concluded that it can occur in victims of trauma, while others dispute it. According to the American Psychological Association, it is not currently possible to distinguish a true repressed memory from a false one without corroborating evidence.[4]

suggestion during psychotherapy.[3]

This is Biblical witchcraft. RMT Theropy that is done to your children alot of the time without your knowledge. Skilled people in the art who just out of the blue come and chat with your child at school.. then if they here anything they find interesting I guess u could call it they ask more question to where parents have been kept in the dark and children believing that something is wrong but they have no idea whats going on and who.. The Authority the RMT Theropist who may be your schools counseler believes the parent should not know because then they might do something like. check and see what the Hek is going on.. Are the schools spying on Households?

Is this a spell being planted real subtlely in a vulnurable mind who's parents try to instill the age old Respect your elders?

Tell me its not true witchcraft has just changed its name? Blessings..Miles

Gen 1:1 - 2 Tim 3:7

But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of Elohim, 5 having a form of holiness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
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Why have children turned against the only ones who will always love them?

They aren't "turned" this way. This piece of information is merely enlightenment on how it will be. This is the future, this is what will eventually happen. Not cause God directed in that area. Just God is informing us of it going to happen.

Cowboy we are living the future this has been on us for a long time.. ask your parents if this is not true.. Blessings..Miles

Yes true, from when this was written, we are in the future. But it is still yet to get worse with this.

How is this witchcraft?

I would consider it a serious violation of rights, without due and just reasoning( i.e. evidence of abuse, accurate evidence not some believed irrationality)

The seed of transformation has already been planted to put families against themselves.. conquer and devide.

When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already. . . . What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community."

Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

What does any of this have to do with modern day "witchcraft"?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

The accusations and predictions you've posted here from the Bible have absolutely nothing to do with modern day "witchcraft".

Thus the only conclusion we can come to is that these stories have absolutely no merit at all in their prophesies.

We simply don't see the behavior that these prophesies suggest, especially not in the name of 'witchcraft'. On the contrary when we do see these properties displayed they are often being displayed by money-hungry right-wing religious zealots that constantly blaspheme the name of Jesus by using him as a scapegoat to support their own boasting and bigotries.

and what does repressed memory have to do with suggestive memory in early childhood development?

and none of the above makes any sense at all

all of it is taken out of context

none of it was put together well enough to even have coherent meaning for a topic of conversation or otherwise,


what exactly was the message? or has the tower of babel fallen again?

what is called modern day witchcraft do you believe it is the same as was 2 or 3 thousand years ago.

I do not believe that at all. whichcraft is like a spell on someone. doing harm to someone and they do not understand it.

Do you or have you ever experienced or talked with someone who has been through Repressed memory Theropy? RMT

Maybe red can tell us more.

we do not see what these Prophecies suggest?

Abra how old are you and you do not see this?

2 Tim 3:2-7
2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of Elohim, 5 having a form of holiness but denying its power.
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Its old witchcraft that goes into the mind like a demon.. a form of possession but in many ways worse because the subject can be made to really believe a lie.. shalom..Miles

Do you or have you children in school? have you ever talked to them about whether the schools Phycologists ever pulls them out of class for no reason to have a chat?

I have two children in school and a third one about to go...

they have a number of people evaluate them particularly in preschool

my children have an uncanny ability to discern certain things....psychologists don't get very far with them...the psychologist usually calls me after the fact....

and i receive notices for every evaluation they have, with signature permissions required....I have asked, the only time I heard something disturbing was after my children spent time alone with their father's girlfriend...an error that will never happen again

I am glad you are notified.. It may be getting better because thier have been allot of lawsuits brought on. RMT is being disproven as a terrible technique to where some places in phycology won't have anything to do with it. I am glad of that. But the school system does what it wants if it even smells something wrong. kids grades drop ect. they have the law behind them if they want to do all the therapy they want and you will never know. i would stay close to what happens in school.. it can last for a very long time suggestive therapy and cause alot of people alot of headaches

I do stay involved and if it happens my children will be removed from the school. end of story

I am fully aware that laws allow the schools to have more power over children than even parents have...I disagree with this entirely...but if my children are anything like me...they will be just fine.

Oh please.

No, I don't see anything in modern day behavior that is any different from the behaviors that existed all throughout humanity.

In fact, some of the behaviors described during the Biblical days were far worse then what we see today.


There have always been greedy selfish people, and probably always will be. But there is no "trend" toward that kind of behavior today.

On the contrary the vast majority of people are pretty nice. If this weren't true you wouldn't even be able to go out shopping or to a restaurant without carrying a sword or gun to protect yourself.

And sure, you can find places that are that dangerous, but thankfully they are indeed the exception rather than the RULE.

I see no reason to believe that the world today is any worse than it ever was. In fact, we're a darn site better then during WWI and WWII for example.

In fact, weren't we just talking about God helping an army to conduct a war against the city of Jerico?

Looks like the biblical God himself participates in these kind of nasty things on occasion.

What the world looks like today depends on your vantage point. If you keep your eyes and ears pinned to radio and TV broadcasts you probably think the world is a horrible place. But if you shut those things off and just go around enjoying life with your neighbors doing constructive things, then life will probably seem pretty nice to your eyes and ears. (of course that can depend on precisely where you live)

And besides, there is absolutely no connection between "witchcraft" and nasty people. At least not on any large scale. No more than there are a few idiots like Jim Jone and David Koresh that have done nasty things in the name of Christianity, etc.

Also you say:


Well, if you believe that then why even use the term "witchcraft" if its modern day meaning is no longer the same as it was in biblical days? Clearly, the term itself has come to mean something totally different today.

Like Redykeulous often says, "knowledge changes as we change".

So those old prophesies that you refer to no longer have any meaning in today's world.

Miles, psychology and psychiatry took a long time to actually become a science because it grew from the field of philosophy to which the mind and spirit were relegated. That was sort of the sociopolitical contract between the Church and the ruling power. The rulers got the bodies and the mind and soul were relegated to regions of mysticism - because who could possibly understand the invisible workings of the mind and soul but some mystical creative force?

That is not meant to be offensive, it is fact - just try to imagine that mind and body are not separate parts the whole they are the whole, wholly integrated and in constant communication with both internal and external effects.

Both the fields of psychology and psychiatry deal with brain functions wherein all knowledge, memory, emotions, and cognition take place as well as being the regulator for the senses through which the external world is experienced.

Psychology is still a new part of medical science but the field has come a long way. In the early days there was no regulation, oversight, or ethical norms for doing research. Some the human experiments that were preformed would NEVER be allowed today. In fact it’s only more recently that to become a practicing (research) psychologist requires a doctorate degree. Grant funded Research universities will not even higher professors of psychology without that level of education.

Like all fields of science, psychology has its share of charlatans and there are internal disagreements within the profession as well. One of those disagreements has been over what you call RMT or Recovered Memory Therapy. It actually began in the early to mid decades of the 1900’s when multiple personalities disorder were seemingly uncovered. We actually refer to similar types of cases as dissociative identity disorder. Since the patient tended to regress naturally (from personality to personality) it was thought that the cause of some psychological problems might be found in the persons past. So regression experiments were underway.

When something is new and untried there is not a right way until it is proven wrong. RMT, the way YOU remember it as in the headlines and a bad thing, is no longer what it was. Licensed psychologists must conform to APA standards which include ethical forms of consent AND their own set of legal paradigms which allow them to be sued just like any other doctor.

Currently, a form of regression therapy is practiced but it is done ethically, and carefully, and it is non-invasive, meaning it is allowed to be spontaneous in a session and not guided. Much of the research and the current opinion steers psychologists away from the practice altogether. It can and has been used to help people remember certain pieces of information for trials – but that information is not generally accepted without outside, independent substantiation.

About hypnosis; it is not the parlor game that people think. It can be a valuable tool, I knew a woman who was a severe diabetic and delivered two children by C-section with no anesthetic and only the use of self-hypnosis. She practiced it with a psychologist for many months, and with her second child she took no pain medication after the baby was born.

Also think of those people who stick needles through their lips, fingers, or arms – they are using self-hypnosis. Hypnosis however, is a better tool for self-use than for anything else because no other person can use it on you without your awareness. It is not a drug and it is not useful unless the patient is a totally willing participant.

That being said, there is a some opinion that we can be influenced by what people say, even in our sleep which is why so many surgeons now have your choice of piped in music and do not allow their staff to tell jokes or say anything disrespectful while you are under anesthetic.

I do not always agree with the research or the opinions of the APA or other respected psychologists however, they are an extremely ethical and caring group of professionals who, like other professions, have their share of rogues and charlatans.

Thanks Red. I appreciate your reply and i know you tell it the way it is and I will always respect that. Its foolish not to. I figured if anyone knew much about it you would.. Thanks again.. Blessings of Shalom...Miles