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Topic: evoltion---human to robots
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Mon 03/28/11 04:54 PM

i thought this was interesting, about a possible end of earth scenario...


As technology progresses it gets smaller and smaller. Pretty soon we are going to enter the realms of Nano technology. In a simple way we are already there. IBM for instance placed single atoms to spell out the IBM logo. For this scenario we have to go a little bit into the future, not long, say 10 years. Nanobots are what I’m talking about. They will be microscopic robots designed to do all sorts of tasks, mostly in the medical field where they can seek out and eradicate bacterial infections, repair tissue damage, mend blood vessels. Lots of things that would be very helpful to everyone. They will be able to rearrange single atoms and for instance, make water out of sand. They will be able to take carbon atoms and turn them in diamonds. They will pick up raw materials and rearrange them into what they need. Well, obviously they will be extremely difficult to make, being microscopic and everything. And herein lies the problem. Scientists realize the only way to make them would be to use the Nanobots themselves. To make them self replicating. So each one is a microscopic Nanobot factory.

Here’s the scary bit. What would happen if just one of them were accidentally thrown away? Well it would pretty much go around changing atoms into robots. Then those robots would make more, and more, and more, at an exponential rate until the horror has unfolded. Scientists believe within 72 hours every single atom on earth will be turned into a Nanobot. All buildings, cars, plants, rocks, the water, animals and yes, even us humans… are now Nanobots. There it is, an endless sea of grey goo. And if ever some extra terrestrial were to land on the planet, then they too would be turned into Nanobots. What’s even more scary is that scientist are really working on creating Nanobots and are very close to achieving it.


That is pretty mind blowing but I am not sure I understand how a nanobot can change an atom into a nanobot.

I read about a machine people believe will be in our near future that is a 3-dimensional printer. That is, you can take a picture of something and print or create the object as an object. (I saw this on television last week.) That itself is mind boggling.

Now with nano technology, we could be able to, in an instant, create an exact copy of a person, memory and all. These persons will be called "artificial persons." They are not robots or androids. They are exact replicas of human flesh built from the atom up by nanobots.


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Mon 03/28/11 04:57 PM

What is teaching a child to tie his shoes but an advanced application of programing?

When I am studying, I am programing my brain with patterns of ideas. My brain is much more sophisticated then my PC I am typing on and so my brain is able to continue the cycle over and over, where as my PC needs my interaction.

Currently the main difference between a brain and a computer is that a brain instead of storing all the data discreetly, the brain uses a context mapping fuzzy logic for memory, this allows for a greater storage capacity and faster (most times) recall. However you never remember anything exactly, lots of details are lost as unimportant to the concept.



Explain fuzzy logic as used by the brain.

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Mon 03/28/11 04:59 PM


i thought this was interesting, about a possible end of earth scenario...


As technology progresses it gets smaller and smaller. Pretty soon we are going to enter the realms of Nano technology. In a simple way we are already there. IBM for instance placed single atoms to spell out the IBM logo. For this scenario we have to go a little bit into the future, not long, say 10 years. Nanobots are what I’m talking about. They will be microscopic robots designed to do all sorts of tasks, mostly in the medical field where they can seek out and eradicate bacterial infections, repair tissue damage, mend blood vessels. Lots of things that would be very helpful to everyone. They will be able to rearrange single atoms and for instance, make water out of sand. They will be able to take carbon atoms and turn them in diamonds. They will pick up raw materials and rearrange them into what they need. Well, obviously they will be extremely difficult to make, being microscopic and everything. And herein lies the problem. Scientists realize the only way to make them would be to use the Nanobots themselves. To make them self replicating. So each one is a microscopic Nanobot factory.

Here’s the scary bit. What would happen if just one of them were accidentally thrown away? Well it would pretty much go around changing atoms into robots. Then those robots would make more, and more, and more, at an exponential rate until the horror has unfolded. Scientists believe within 72 hours every single atom on earth will be turned into a Nanobot. All buildings, cars, plants, rocks, the water, animals and yes, even us humans… are now Nanobots. There it is, an endless sea of grey goo. And if ever some extra terrestrial were to land on the planet, then they too would be turned into Nanobots. What’s even more scary is that scientist are really working on creating Nanobots and are very close to achieving it.


That is pretty mind blowing but I am not sure I understand how a nanobot can change an atom into a nanobot.

I read about a machine people believe will be in our near future that is a 3-dimensional printer. That is, you can take a picture of something and print or create the object as an object. (I saw this on television last week.) That itself is mind boggling.

Now with nano technology, we could be able to, in an instant, create an exact copy of a person, memory and all. These persons will be called "artificial persons." They are not robots or androids. They are exact replicas of human flesh built from the atom up by nanobots.




i believe it said it would rearrange the atoms, not change them...
but for the time being, it is just fantasy... if you have a chance, watch a movie called "the surrogate" with bruce willis...it has a lot to do with what this topic is about...

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Mon 03/28/11 05:00 PM



i thought this was interesting, about a possible end of earth scenario...


As technology progresses it gets smaller and smaller. Pretty soon we are going to enter the realms of Nano technology. In a simple way we are already there. IBM for instance placed single atoms to spell out the IBM logo. For this scenario we have to go a little bit into the future, not long, say 10 years. Nanobots are what I’m talking about. They will be microscopic robots designed to do all sorts of tasks, mostly in the medical field where they can seek out and eradicate bacterial infections, repair tissue damage, mend blood vessels. Lots of things that would be very helpful to everyone. They will be able to rearrange single atoms and for instance, make water out of sand. They will be able to take carbon atoms and turn them in diamonds. They will pick up raw materials and rearrange them into what they need. Well, obviously they will be extremely difficult to make, being microscopic and everything. And herein lies the problem. Scientists realize the only way to make them would be to use the Nanobots themselves. To make them self replicating. So each one is a microscopic Nanobot factory.

Here’s the scary bit. What would happen if just one of them were accidentally thrown away? Well it would pretty much go around changing atoms into robots. Then those robots would make more, and more, and more, at an exponential rate until the horror has unfolded. Scientists believe within 72 hours every single atom on earth will be turned into a Nanobot. All buildings, cars, plants, rocks, the water, animals and yes, even us humans… are now Nanobots. There it is, an endless sea of grey goo. And if ever some extra terrestrial were to land on the planet, then they too would be turned into Nanobots. What’s even more scary is that scientist are really working on creating Nanobots and are very close to achieving it.


That is pretty mind blowing but I am not sure I understand how a nanobot can change an atom into a nanobot.

I read about a machine people believe will be in our near future that is a 3-dimensional printer. That is, you can take a picture of something and print or create the object as an object. (I saw this on television last week.) That itself is mind boggling.

Now with nano technology, we could be able to, in an instant, create an exact copy of a person, memory and all. These persons will be called "artificial persons." They are not robots or androids. They are exact replicas of human flesh built from the atom up by nanobots.




i believe it said it would rearrange the atoms, not change them...
but for the time being, it is just fantasy... if you have a chance, watch a movie called "the surrogate" with bruce willis...it has a lot to do with what this topic is about...


Cool... I love Bruce Willis. Is that the movie where he gets three copies of himself?



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Mon 03/28/11 05:03 PM




i thought this was interesting, about a possible end of earth scenario...


As technology progresses it gets smaller and smaller. Pretty soon we are going to enter the realms of Nano technology. In a simple way we are already there. IBM for instance placed single atoms to spell out the IBM logo. For this scenario we have to go a little bit into the future, not long, say 10 years. Nanobots are what I’m talking about. They will be microscopic robots designed to do all sorts of tasks, mostly in the medical field where they can seek out and eradicate bacterial infections, repair tissue damage, mend blood vessels. Lots of things that would be very helpful to everyone. They will be able to rearrange single atoms and for instance, make water out of sand. They will be able to take carbon atoms and turn them in diamonds. They will pick up raw materials and rearrange them into what they need. Well, obviously they will be extremely difficult to make, being microscopic and everything. And herein lies the problem. Scientists realize the only way to make them would be to use the Nanobots themselves. To make them self replicating. So each one is a microscopic Nanobot factory.

Here’s the scary bit. What would happen if just one of them were accidentally thrown away? Well it would pretty much go around changing atoms into robots. Then those robots would make more, and more, and more, at an exponential rate until the horror has unfolded. Scientists believe within 72 hours every single atom on earth will be turned into a Nanobot. All buildings, cars, plants, rocks, the water, animals and yes, even us humans… are now Nanobots. There it is, an endless sea of grey goo. And if ever some extra terrestrial were to land on the planet, then they too would be turned into Nanobots. What’s even more scary is that scientist are really working on creating Nanobots and are very close to achieving it.


That is pretty mind blowing but I am not sure I understand how a nanobot can change an atom into a nanobot.

I read about a machine people believe will be in our near future that is a 3-dimensional printer. That is, you can take a picture of something and print or create the object as an object. (I saw this on television last week.) That itself is mind boggling.

Now with nano technology, we could be able to, in an instant, create an exact copy of a person, memory and all. These persons will be called "artificial persons." They are not robots or androids. They are exact replicas of human flesh built from the atom up by nanobots.




i believe it said it would rearrange the atoms, not change them...
but for the time being, it is just fantasy... if you have a chance, watch a movie called "the surrogate" with bruce willis...it has a lot to do with what this topic is about...


Cool... I love Bruce Willis. Is that the movie where he gets three copies of himself?





no, it's about how in the future, people use robots to live their lives while they stay indoors and never leave the house, all connected to a wireless web... it was interesting, to say the least...

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Mon 03/28/11 05:06 PM





i thought this was interesting, about a possible end of earth scenario...


As technology progresses it gets smaller and smaller. Pretty soon we are going to enter the realms of Nano technology. In a simple way we are already there. IBM for instance placed single atoms to spell out the IBM logo. For this scenario we have to go a little bit into the future, not long, say 10 years. Nanobots are what I’m talking about. They will be microscopic robots designed to do all sorts of tasks, mostly in the medical field where they can seek out and eradicate bacterial infections, repair tissue damage, mend blood vessels. Lots of things that would be very helpful to everyone. They will be able to rearrange single atoms and for instance, make water out of sand. They will be able to take carbon atoms and turn them in diamonds. They will pick up raw materials and rearrange them into what they need. Well, obviously they will be extremely difficult to make, being microscopic and everything. And herein lies the problem. Scientists realize the only way to make them would be to use the Nanobots themselves. To make them self replicating. So each one is a microscopic Nanobot factory.

Here’s the scary bit. What would happen if just one of them were accidentally thrown away? Well it would pretty much go around changing atoms into robots. Then those robots would make more, and more, and more, at an exponential rate until the horror has unfolded. Scientists believe within 72 hours every single atom on earth will be turned into a Nanobot. All buildings, cars, plants, rocks, the water, animals and yes, even us humans… are now Nanobots. There it is, an endless sea of grey goo. And if ever some extra terrestrial were to land on the planet, then they too would be turned into Nanobots. What’s even more scary is that scientist are really working on creating Nanobots and are very close to achieving it.


That is pretty mind blowing but I am not sure I understand how a nanobot can change an atom into a nanobot.

I read about a machine people believe will be in our near future that is a 3-dimensional printer. That is, you can take a picture of something and print or create the object as an object. (I saw this on television last week.) That itself is mind boggling.

Now with nano technology, we could be able to, in an instant, create an exact copy of a person, memory and all. These persons will be called "artificial persons." They are not robots or androids. They are exact replicas of human flesh built from the atom up by nanobots.




i believe it said it would rearrange the atoms, not change them...
but for the time being, it is just fantasy... if you have a chance, watch a movie called "the surrogate" with bruce willis...it has a lot to do with what this topic is about...


Cool... I love Bruce Willis. Is that the movie where he gets three copies of himself?





no, it's about how in the future, people use robots to live their lives while they stay indoors and never leave the house, all connected to a wireless web... it was interesting, to say the least...



WOW... even better.

That is what I sometimes imagine that we might be doing right now. The real self is a blob plugged into a universal computer with a bunch of wires and our bodies are simply holographic projections experiencing this reality.




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Mon 03/28/11 05:09 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Mon 03/28/11 05:11 PM






i thought this was interesting, about a possible end of earth scenario...


As technology progresses it gets smaller and smaller. Pretty soon we are going to enter the realms of Nano technology. In a simple way we are already there. IBM for instance placed single atoms to spell out the IBM logo. For this scenario we have to go a little bit into the future, not long, say 10 years. Nanobots are what I’m talking about. They will be microscopic robots designed to do all sorts of tasks, mostly in the medical field where they can seek out and eradicate bacterial infections, repair tissue damage, mend blood vessels. Lots of things that would be very helpful to everyone. They will be able to rearrange single atoms and for instance, make water out of sand. They will be able to take carbon atoms and turn them in diamonds. They will pick up raw materials and rearrange them into what they need. Well, obviously they will be extremely difficult to make, being microscopic and everything. And herein lies the problem. Scientists realize the only way to make them would be to use the Nanobots themselves. To make them self replicating. So each one is a microscopic Nanobot factory.

Here’s the scary bit. What would happen if just one of them were accidentally thrown away? Well it would pretty much go around changing atoms into robots. Then those robots would make more, and more, and more, at an exponential rate until the horror has unfolded. Scientists believe within 72 hours every single atom on earth will be turned into a Nanobot. All buildings, cars, plants, rocks, the water, animals and yes, even us humans… are now Nanobots. There it is, an endless sea of grey goo. And if ever some extra terrestrial were to land on the planet, then they too would be turned into Nanobots. What’s even more scary is that scientist are really working on creating Nanobots and are very close to achieving it.


That is pretty mind blowing but I am not sure I understand how a nanobot can change an atom into a nanobot.

I read about a machine people believe will be in our near future that is a 3-dimensional printer. That is, you can take a picture of something and print or create the object as an object. (I saw this on television last week.) That itself is mind boggling.

Now with nano technology, we could be able to, in an instant, create an exact copy of a person, memory and all. These persons will be called "artificial persons." They are not robots or androids. They are exact replicas of human flesh built from the atom up by nanobots.




i believe it said it would rearrange the atoms, not change them...
but for the time being, it is just fantasy... if you have a chance, watch a movie called "the surrogate" with bruce willis...it has a lot to do with what this topic is about...


Cool... I love Bruce Willis. Is that the movie where he gets three copies of himself?





no, it's about how in the future, people use robots to live their lives while they stay indoors and never leave the house, all connected to a wireless web... it was interesting, to say the least...



WOW... even better.

That is what I sometimes imagine that we might be doing right now. The real self is a blob plugged into a universal computer with a bunch of wires and our bodies are simply holographic projections experiencing this reality.






that would explain some things, and create more questions at the same time...lol


here is a link to the movie info/trailer

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0986263/


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Mon 03/28/11 07:04 PM
Wow I just watched the trailer. Can I get this on DVD now or is it going to be in the movies first???

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Mon 03/28/11 07:05 PM

Wow I just watched the trailer. Can I get this on DVD now or is it going to be in the movies first???




it is on starz now, so it should on dvd now

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Mon 03/28/11 07:39 PM
okay here is one more piece to the man to machine story...

Several years ago I read an article about a molecular computer. Basically it uses the building blocks of DNA (ACGT)to store information.

This is exponentially more powerful than the modern computer which is limited by the use of 1's and 0's

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Laws of robotics ..love I, Robot the book not the movie( sorry Will Smith it stunk)
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Nanobots on the loose
in these situations there is usually a requirement that must be met for them to survive...a nutrient or material that is not readily available in nature...like the lysine contingency in Jurassic Park

The animals must be supplied with the amino acid lysine in order to survive....but of course nature finds a way...ohwell


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