Topic: Union Power!
Bestinshow's photo
Fri 03/11/11 05:29 AM
GOP Wisconsin lawmakers passed Walker's anti-union bill this afternoon as dozens of protesters were dragged, hauled and carried out of the Capitol by police. Dramatic video in More. If you don't like what you see, donate toward the recall of these guys. MoveOn and ActBlue have already raised over $880,000 toward their $1 million goal.
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/03/10-1


"There comes a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you cannot take part, you cannot even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies on the gears, and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus. And you've got to make it stop."

Mario Robert Savio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Speech_Movement

metalwing's photo
Fri 03/11/11 05:48 AM
And you think bankruptcy is better?

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 03/11/11 06:01 AM
Edited by Bestinshow on Fri 03/11/11 06:05 AM

And you think bankruptcy is better?
Sorry I am better informed than that. A few minuts googling will show the budget mess was created by giveing huge tax cuts to business in wiskonsin. He manufactured a crissis and then had the ready made solution. I am glad he so ham handidly exposed himself and the republicans for what they are. Stooges of the elite and enemy to working people everywere.

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 03/11/11 10:20 AM
Edited by AdventureBegins on Fri 03/11/11 10:23 AM
Balderdash...

Taxes were fine until the last governor gave some LARGE benefits to the state workers... and tried to pay for it by raising taxes...
Claiming that 'cutting' taxes caused this is crap... is a hugh lie.

As long as the Democrats had majority they crammed through legislation that stank with vavoritism, spending excess, taxing to pay for excess and all manner of 'forced' legal manuevers.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot dems cry foul.

Simply shows me that dems only play by the rules when they are winning... Once they start loosing they run and hide and scream about the 'unfairness' of it all.

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Fri 03/11/11 03:44 PM


And you think bankruptcy is better?
Sorry I am better informed than that. A few minuts googling will show the budget mess was created by giveing huge tax cuts to business in wiskonsin. He manufactured a crissis and then had the ready made solution. I am glad he so ham handidly exposed himself and the republicans for what they are. Stooges of the elite and enemy to working people everywere.

I'd like to see where you get your info to become "better informed"

Madison — Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle's administration on Friday told Republican Governor-elect Scott Walker that he would have to cope with a $2.2 billion deficit in the state's upcoming two-year budget, but this brighter-than-expected forecast contained more than $1 billion in hidden pain.

To arrive at the favorable estimate, the Doyle administration's estimate assumed that Walker and lawmakers would make spending cuts that have yet to actually happen - two more years of state employee furloughs, no pay raises, a virtual hiring freeze and belt tightening in state health programs. Without that $1.1 billion in savings, the state's projected shortfall rises to $3.3 billion - a significant increase over previous estimates that put the gap at between $2.7 billion and $3.1 billion.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/109275069.html


AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 03/11/11 07:20 PM
"There comes a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you cannot take part, you cannot even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies on the gears, and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus. And you've got to make it stop."

Mario Robert Savio

Yep... Like the way Democrats passed Health Care in DC. Attached it to a budgetary manuever called 'reconcillation'... (Because it would not have passed a proper vote).

Sickening...

Part of the plethora of reasons for the 'tea parties'.

Like what will be the 'backlash' for the attempt at 'legislation' by voting 'not present' in Wisconsin...

Who wants to place a bet that Democrats find themselves in short supply on legislative bodies after the vote of 2012.

metalwing's photo
Sat 03/12/11 09:18 AM

"There comes a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you cannot take part, you cannot even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies on the gears, and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus. And you've got to make it stop."

Mario Robert Savio

Yep... Like the way Democrats passed Health Care in DC. Attached it to a budgetary manuever called 'reconcillation'... (Because it would not have passed a proper vote).

Sickening...

Part of the plethora of reasons for the 'tea parties'.

Like what will be the 'backlash' for the attempt at 'legislation' by voting 'not present' in Wisconsin...

Who wants to place a bet that Democrats find themselves in short supply on legislative bodies after the vote of 2012.


In many cases they are in short supply now. However, there are lots of union members, liberals, and brainwashed to keep them from dissappearing. Depending upon the surgical application of propaganda, enough issues will be distorted and enough areas are hard core democratic to keep them in business.

A good example is the number of news reports that said Walker was going to "eliminate all bargaining rights of the union". This was never true but the brainwashing effect of the lie was enough to get polls to say the public was against everything Walker was doing. When folks understood that pay was untouched and the amounts to be paid for health and retirement were much less than asked of federal workers, the "impressions" of what Walker was doing softened dramatically.

The spin goes on and the media is the biggest culprit.

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Sat 03/12/11 07:03 PM
A good example is the number of news reports that said Walker was going to "eliminate all bargaining rights of the union"

I never saw a news report that said that. What TV stations do you watch?

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 03/12/11 07:33 PM

A good example is the number of news reports that said Walker was going to "eliminate all bargaining rights of the union"

I never saw a news report that said that. What TV stations do you watch?

CNN, MSNBC, ABC, FOX...

AT the begining of the situation in Wisconsin they all 'flashed' headlines to the effect that 'wisconsin gov attempting to remove collective bargaining'... and 'Gov forcing union employees to pay for Health Care'... and 'Rebublican Governors attempting to rein in Union rights'...

It is called a 'tease'... and its primary purpose is to get you to watch their channel.

Just to put it in perspective... News anchors are IN Unions also.