Topic: Islamic Indoctrination On U.S. Taxpayers' Tab | |
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A large network of jihad-preaching schools dots the American landscape, and it’s being paid for by taxpayer dollars.
The network of more than 100 facilities in 27 states is the result of the work of Turkish expatriate billionaire Fethullah Gulen, who lives in a heavily guarded compound near Saylorsburg, Pa. Terrorism analyst, author and Family Security Matters contributing Editor Paul Williams explains that Gulen left Turkey under a cloud, and came to the United States carrying an agenda. |
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Muhammed Fethullah Gülen is a Turkish preacher, author, educator, and Muslim scholar living in self-imposed exile in Pennsylvania (USA).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fethullah_Gülen
Gülen teaches an Anatolian version of traditional mainstream Islam,[1] deriving from that of Said Nursi's teachings and modernizing them. Gülen condemns any kind of terrorism,[2] and supports interfaith dialogue among the people of the book, and has initiated such dialogue with the Vatican and some Jewish organizations.[3] In the Turkish context Gülen appears relatively conservative and religiously observant. For example, he supports that women wear headscarf,[4] whilst his female followers usually wear headscarves.[5] Contents [hide] 1 Biography 2 Theology 2.1 Service (hizmet) to the common good 2.2 Interfaith and intercultural dialogue 2.3 Women's roles 2.4 Reaction to the Gaza Flotilla 3 Publications 4 See also 5 References 6 External links 6.1 The Gülen movement 6.2 Other sources Biography Gülen was born in the village of Korucuk, near Erzurum. His father, Ramiz Gülen, was an imam. Gülen started primary education at his home village, but did not continue after his family moved, and instead focused on informal Islamic education.[6] He gave his first sermon when he was 14.[7] He was influenced by the ideas of Said Nursi and Maulana Jalaluddeen Rumi.[8] In 1959 he was awarded a state preacher's license in Edirne. In 1966 he was transferred to a post in İzmir. It was here that Gülen's recurring themes—these included education, science, the economy and social justice--began to crystallize and his audience base began to expand.[citation needed] He also traveled around the provinces in Anatolia and gave sermons in mosques, town meetings and coffee houses among other places.[citation needed] Gülen never met Said Nursi, who died in 1960. By the end of the 1970s Gülen broke ranks with the mainstream Nurcu movement[citation needed] (or Nur movement, i.e., the group following Nursi), which was governed by a council of elders,[citation needed] and created his own institutions in which he was the sole leader.[citation needed] Comparing Gülen to leaders in the Nur movement, Hakan Yavuz said, "Gülen is more Turkish nationalist in his thinking. Also, he is somewhat more state-oriented, and is more concerned with market economics and neo-liberal economic policies."[9] His pro-business stance has led some outsiders to dub his theology an Islamic version of Calvinism.[10] Oxford Analytica says: "Gülen put Nursi's ideas into practice when he was transferred to a mosque in Izmir in 1966. Izmir is a city where political Islam never took root. However, the business and professional middle class came to resent the constraints of a state bureaucracy under whose wings it had grown, and supported market-friendly policies, while preserving at least some elements of a conservative lifestyle. Such businessmen were largely pro-Western, because it was Western (mainly U.S.) influence, which had persuaded the government to allow free elections for the first time in 1950 and U.S. aid, which had primed the pump of economic growth." [11] Gülen retired from formal preaching duties in 1981. From 1988 to 1991 he gave a series of sermons in popular mosques of major cities. These activities elevated him to a public figure. In 1994, he participated in the founding of "Journalists and Writers Foundation"[12] and was given the title "Honorary President" by the foundation.[13] He did not make any comment regarding the closures of the Welfare Party in 1998 [4] or the Virtue Party in 2001.[14] He has met some politicians like Tansu Çiller and Bülent Ecevit, but he avoids meeting with the leaders of Islamic political parties.[14] In 1998 Gülen emigrated to the United States, ostensibly for health problems (he suffers from diabetes) but arguably in anticipation of being tried over remarks which seemed to favor an Islamic state.[15] In June 1999, after Gulen had left Turkey for the United States video tapes were sent to TV stations in Turkey with recordings of Gulen saying, "the existing system is still in power. Our friends who have positions in legislative and administrative bodies should learn its details and be vigilant all the time so that they can transform it and be more fruitful on behalf of Islam in order to carry out a nationwide restoration. However, they should wait until the conditions become more favorable. In other words, they should not come out too early."[16] Gülen complained that the remarks were taken out of context,[17] and questions were raised about the authenticity of the tape, which he accused of having been "manipulated." Gülen was tried in absentia in 2000, and acquitted in 2006.[18] The Supreme Court of Appeals later rejected an appeal by the Chief Prosecutor's Office.[19] Theology Gülen does not advocate a new theology but refers to classical authorities of theology and takes up their line of argument; his understanding of Islam is thus conservative and mainstream.[20][21] Though he has never been a member of a Sufi tarekat and does not see tarekat membership as a necessity for Muslims, he teaches that Sufism is the inner dimension of Islam and the inner and outer dimensions must never be separated.[22] His teachings differ in emphasis from those of other mainstream, moderate Islamic scholars in two respects, both based on his interpretations of particular verses of the Qur'an: he teaches that the Muslim community has a duty of service (Turkish: hizmet)[23] to the “common good” of the community and the nation [24] and to Muslims and non-Muslims all over the world;[25] also, the Muslim community is obliged to conduct interfaith dialogue with the "People of the Book" (Jews and Christians).[26] Gülen has roundly condemned terrorism using Islamic reasoning, but in 2004 debate arose over comments by Gülen to the effect that terrorism was as despicable as atheism.[27] In a follow-up interview he explained he did not intend to equate atheists and murderers; rather, he wanted to highlight the fact that according to Islam both were destined to suffer eternal punishment.[28] Service (hizmet) to the common good Gülen's teachings about hizmet (altruistic service to the "common good") have attracted a large number of supporters in Turkey and Central Asia and increasingly in other parts of the world.[citation needed] These supporters and their activities are commonly known as the Gülen Movement. Interfaith and intercultural dialogue Gulen movement participants have founded a number of institutions across the world which promote interfaith and intercultural dialogue activities. While Gülen's earlier works are (in Bekim Agai's words) "full of anti-missionary and anti-Western passages",[29] during the 1990s he began to advocate interreligious tolerance and dialogue.[3] He personally met with leaders of other religions, including Pope John Paul II, the Greek Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomeos, and Israeli Sephardic Head Rabbi Eliyahu Bakshi-Doron.[30] Similar to Said Nursi, Gülen favors cooperation between followers of different religions (this would also include different forms of Islam, such as Sunnism vs. Alevism in Turkey) as well as religious and secular elements within society. He has been described as "very critical of the regimes in Iran and Saudi Arabia" due to their undemocratic, sharia-based systems of government.[4] Women's roles According to Aras and Caha, Gülen's views on women are "progressive" but "modern professional women in Turkey still find his ideas far from acceptable." [4] Gülen says the coming of Islam "saved" women, who "were absolutely not confined to their home and...never oppressed" in the early years of the religion. He feels that western-style feminism, however, is "doomed to imbalance like all other reactionary movements...being full of hatred towards men."[31] Reaction to the Gaza Flotilla Mr. Gülen criticized the Turkish-led flotilla for trying to deliver aid without Israel's consent. He spoke of watching the news coverage of the deadly confrontation between Israeli commandos and Turkish aid group members as its flotilla approached Israel's sea blockade of Gaza. "What I saw was not pretty," he said. "It was ugly.". He continued his criticism. The "organizers' failure to seek accord with Israel before attempting to deliver aid "is a sign of defying authority, and will not lead to fruitful matters." [32] Publications Gülen has authored over 60 books [33] and many articles on a variety of topics: social, political and religious issues, art, science and sports, and recorded thousands of audio and video cassettes. He contributes to a number of journals and magazines owned by his followers. He writes the lead article for the Fountain, Yeni Ümit, Sızıntı, and Yağmur, Islamic and philosophical magazines. Several of his books have been translated into English (see: Books by Gülen Books on Gülen and the Gülen Movement). Is this the guy you're talking about? I missed the part about the jihad. I also missed the part about being paid for by taxpayer dollars. The "cloud" he was under when he left Turkey seems to have disappeared. |
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Careful, Artlo. You don't want to let the truth interfere with a good fear-mongering campaign.
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I can go on wikipedia and write about what great men and preachers of peace Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Erik the Red,King George and Vlad the impaler were so your wiki response is not very moving!
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You can...
Quite right... and the wiki will place a 'NEEDS CONFIRMATION' label on your article. They do post sources and confirmations of information on their pages... you simply have to make sure the information you are getting has 'reputable' sources... and its a wonderful sources of information. |
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my favorite talk show host denounces Wikipedia because he feels that it has been so badly infected by right-wing revisionism. I don't agree with him. Wikipedia is probably not suitable for scholarly works, But I believe it is adequate for our purposes in these message boards.
Here's what one evaluator has to say. Wikipedia itself is strong on self-assessment. Encyclopedia editors address accuracy in the entry Reliability of Wikipedia, compiling the results of international third-party assessments across a variety of disciplines. The consensus: the encyclopedia is as accurate as other encyclopedias. And as Cathy Davidson, Professor of Interdisciplinary Studies at Duke University, points out in We Can't Ignore the Influence of Digital Technologies (Chronicle of Higher Education, March 23, 2007), unlike comparable print sources, Wikipedia errors can be corrected and often are in a matter of hours after publication. http://teachinghistory.org/digital-classroom/ask-a-digital-historian/23863
Wikipedia itself has this to say about its own credibility. (The article is too long to copy and paste here. )http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_WikipediaYou can decide for yourself. |
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Some say schools giving Muslims special treatment
Updated 7/26/2007 By Oren Dorell, USA TODAY Some public schools and universities are granting Muslim requests for prayer times, prayer rooms and ritual foot baths, prompting a debate on whether Islam is being given preferential treatment over other religions. The University of Michigan at Dearborn is planning to build foot baths for Muslim students who wash their feet before prayer. An elementary school in San Diego created an extra recess period for Muslim pupils to pray. At George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., Muslim students using a "meditation space" laid out Muslim prayer rugs and separated men and women in accordance with their Islamic beliefs. Critics see a double standard and an organized attempt to push public conformance with Islamic law. "What (school officials) are doing … is to give Muslim students religious benefits that they do not give any other religion right now," says Richard Thompson, president and chief counsel at the Thomas More Law Center, an advocacy group for Christians. Advocates say the accommodations are legal. "The whole issue is to provide for a religious foundation for those who are observant while respecting separation of church and state," says Salam Al-Marayati, executive director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, based in Los Angeles. Many schools accommodate the Christian and Jewish sabbaths and allow Jewish students to not take tests on religious holidays, he says. Barry Lynn, of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, says however that the law is murky on these expressions of faith. And the American Civil Liberties Union says overt religious symbols like crucifixes are not legal, but whether Muslim foot baths and prayer rugs fall into that category is not clear. "That's a difficult one, and it's right on the edge," says Jeremy Gunn, director of the ACLU program on freedom of religion and belief in Washington, D.C. At the forefront of the movement is the Muslim Students' Association, which has formed a Muslim Accommodations Task Force to push for foot baths and prayer rooms. At least 17 universities have foot baths built or under construction, including Boston University, George Washington University and Temple University, and at least nine universities have prayer rooms for "Muslim students only," including Stanford, Emory and the University of Virginia, according to the MSA's website. The association did not return calls seeking comment. Zuhdi Jasser, a Muslim and chairman of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, which promotes separation of mosque and state, says he is concerned about the accommodations. "Unusual accommodations for one faith at the cost of everybody else doesn't fall on the side of pluralism," he said. At George Mason University, non-Muslim students were asked to observe Muslim rules in the prayer area, such as keeping men on one side and women on the other and removing their shoes, according to Broadside, the school newspaper. Alissa Karton, assistant to the vice president for student life, said the article prompted the school to order students to roll up prayer rugs when not in use and move the dividers. The University of Michigan agreed to install foot baths after talks with the MSA, said Terry Gallagher, director of public relations at the campus. Some Muslims ritually wash their feet before praying five times a day. Daniel Pipes, founder of the Middle East Forum, a conservative think tank, sees the requests as part of a movement to force the public to acquiesce to Islamic law. "The goal of Islamists is the application of Islamic law," Pipes says. In the San Diego case, a substitute teacher at Carver Elementary School alleged that teachers were indoctrinating students into Islam. The San Diego Unified School District determined that a teacher's aide was wrong to lead Muslim students in prayer. Carver still has a special recess to allow 100 Muslim students to pray. The ACLU, which has often sued schools for permitting prayer, says it is waiting to see what kind of policy the school settles on before deciding whether to sue. It says promoting prayers is unconstitutional. "If you start carving out time in the school day that you would not do but for the need to let students pray, then it begins to look like what you're trying to do is to assist religion," says David Blair-Loy, legal director for the ACLU in San Diego. Thompson says such conflicts are bound to proliferate. He and other Christians, he says, are preparing to ask for equal consideration such as a Christian prayer recess. "What you're going to see out there is more of these kinds of cases as the Muslim community tests how far it can go in the public school system," he says. "If this can happen for Muslims, it can happen for Christians and other religions." |
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we need to squash this like a bug before it gets out of control, we already have Jesus freaks we sure as hell don't need LALALALALALA Alah freaks! |
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The ACLU, which has often sued schools for permitting prayer, says it is waiting to see what kind of policy the school settles on before deciding whether to sue. It says promoting prayers is unconstitutional. I agree with the ACLU. It has been a tough struggle squashing the promotion of Christianity by the public schools. The same should go fpr all other religions.
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The ACLU, which has often sued schools for permitting prayer, says it is waiting to see what kind of policy the school settles on before deciding whether to sue. It says promoting prayers is unconstitutional. I agree with the ACLU. It has been a tough struggle squashing the promotion of Christianity by the public schools. The same should go fpr all other religions.
We'll see what comes of this but as the USA Today article above stated that schools are granting prayer time, prayer rooms and foot baths. Too me the ACLU should step and sue the schools for promoting religion. |
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The ACLU, which has often sued schools for permitting prayer, says it is waiting to see what kind of policy the school settles on before deciding whether to sue. It says promoting prayers is unconstitutional. I agree with the ACLU. It has been a tough struggle squashing the promotion of Christianity by the public schools. The same should go fpr all other religions.
We'll see what comes of this but as the USA Today article above stated that schools are granting prayer time, prayer rooms and foot baths. Too me the ACLU should step and sue the schools for promoting religion. Bored. The article is dated 2007. If, the ACLU was going to do anything, don'tcha reckon they'da done it by now. Wonder how close the are with Eugene. Head of the Nation of Islam? |
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