Topic: Is the Moon Hollow?
AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 03/03/11 10:12 PM
If you really want some 'dirt' on the moon.

Check out the conspiricy theories about Apollo 16 and 17.

Supposedly they found an intact abandoned ancient 'lunar base' on the moon...

and went inside.

no photo
Fri 03/04/11 06:07 AM

If you really want some 'dirt' on the moon.

Check out the conspiricy theories about Apollo 16 and 17.

Supposedly they found an intact abandoned ancient 'lunar base' on the moon...

and went inside.


I love conspiracy theories. drinker Some are quite believable, others are designed purposely to be misinformation.

Here's one for you:

The government can't stop the flow of information so all they can do is create misinformation and then attempt to lump the real truth with the crazy stuff and discredit it. The difficulty is that most of the time, the truth is even stranger than the fiction.

Also the general public tends to either not care, or they just accept what the talking heads tell them. huh

metalwing's photo
Fri 03/04/11 06:26 AM
According to SNOPES, the story about the moons of mars missing was in 2001. "Has NASA Betrayed Us?
30-SEP-01 (Updated): With the latest speculation that Phobos and Deimos have vanished, it is critical that someone comes forward with new observation data. With the recent global dust storm on Mars, and the increasing sightings of rare meteor events here on Earth, the sense of urgency for closure is being reinforced. Above all others, NASA has the assets to resolve this issue quickly and decisively. Yet, it hides in the shadows."

Here are some recent photos.

http://www.space.com/10733-mars-moon-phobos-photos.html

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Fri 03/04/11 09:28 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 03/04/11 09:28 AM

According to SNOPES, the story about the moons of mars missing was in 2001. "Has NASA Betrayed Us?
30-SEP-01 (Updated): With the latest speculation that Phobos and Deimos have vanished, it is critical that someone comes forward with new observation data. With the recent global dust storm on Mars, and the increasing sightings of rare meteor events here on Earth, the sense of urgency for closure is being reinforced. Above all others, NASA has the assets to resolve this issue quickly and decisively. Yet, it hides in the shadows."

Here are some recent photos.

http://www.space.com/10733-mars-moon-phobos-photos.html


Well that's good news for the Russians I'm sure, they are planning another trip.

High resolutions photos were also taken on July 23 2008. It wouldn't be hard to fake "new" ones, but I don't know why anyone would want to.

Unless they (the ESA) are infiltrated by aliens. laugh laugh laugh

After all, the last Russion space probe was "shot down" for getting too close.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 03/31/11 09:20 PM


I saw a program on the history or discovery channel (I can't remember which) that mentions how some say that the moon is actually hollow and may be an alien space ship.

I have also heard this from other sources who say that aliens or people from an ancient race are among us, but I never thought that I would see a documentary with that claim.

But there is one question I would like to find a scientific answer to.

Why do we only see one side of the moon? Why does that not change? How does the moon hold that position and not rotate?




they have also "heard" sounds that are similar to the ringing of a bell when an asteroid hits the moon, and on one of the moon missions, they drilled into the moon and they stared seeing metal shaving coming up from the hole they were drilling...also, the orbit of the moon is unusual, almost a perfect circle around the earth, they have not found another moon that does this orbit anywhere yet...

mightymoe's photo
Thu 03/31/11 09:22 PM

According to SNOPES, the story about the moons of mars missing was in 2001. "Has NASA Betrayed Us?
30-SEP-01 (Updated): With the latest speculation that Phobos and Deimos have vanished, it is critical that someone comes forward with new observation data. With the recent global dust storm on Mars, and the increasing sightings of rare meteor events here on Earth, the sense of urgency for closure is being reinforced. Above all others, NASA has the assets to resolve this issue quickly and decisively. Yet, it hides in the shadows."

Here are some recent photos.

http://www.space.com/10733-mars-moon-phobos-photos.html


there was also talk of phobos being an alien ship too, and have pictures of structures on it...

mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/01/11 12:23 PM
here is a website that shows some evidence of the moon being hollow

http://www.hollowearththeory.com/articles/impactCraters.asp

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 04/01/11 07:23 PM



I saw a program on the history or discovery channel (I can't remember which) that mentions how some say that the moon is actually hollow and may be an alien space ship.

I have also heard this from other sources who say that aliens or people from an ancient race are among us, but I never thought that I would see a documentary with that claim.

But there is one question I would like to find a scientific answer to.

Why do we only see one side of the moon? Why does that not change? How does the moon hold that position and not rotate?




they have also "heard" sounds that are similar to the ringing of a bell when an asteroid hits the moon, and on one of the moon missions, they drilled into the moon and they stared seeing metal shaving coming up from the hole they were drilling...also, the orbit of the moon is unusual, almost a perfect circle around the earth, they have not found another moon that does this orbit anywhere yet...

The moon does not orbit in almost a 'perfect circle'... This information is incorrect...

the Moon's orbit is definitely not a circle. The Moon's distance varies from 7% less than average (at perigee, when the Moon is closest to the Earth) to 6% more than the average (at apogee, when the Moon is farthest from the Earth).

Not only is this 13% variation present but the moon itself does not orbit the earth along our equatorial line (indeed it is 5.15 Degrees off of the equatorial axis)...

It orbits the earth along the solar eclipictic (the mean plane of the orbits of all the planets), indicating that it might be a 'captured' body that once orbited the sun on its own.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/01/11 07:59 PM




I saw a program on the history or discovery channel (I can't remember which) that mentions how some say that the moon is actually hollow and may be an alien space ship.

I have also heard this from other sources who say that aliens or people from an ancient race are among us, but I never thought that I would see a documentary with that claim.

But there is one question I would like to find a scientific answer to.

Why do we only see one side of the moon? Why does that not change? How does the moon hold that position and not rotate?




they have also "heard" sounds that are similar to the ringing of a bell when an asteroid hits the moon, and on one of the moon missions, they drilled into the moon and they stared seeing metal shaving coming up from the hole they were drilling...also, the orbit of the moon is unusual, almost a perfect circle around the earth, they have not found another moon that does this orbit anywhere yet...

The moon does not orbit in almost a 'perfect circle'... This information is incorrect...

the Moon's orbit is definitely not a circle. The Moon's distance varies from 7% less than average (at perigee, when the Moon is closest to the Earth) to 6% more than the average (at apogee, when the Moon is farthest from the Earth).

Not only is this 13% variation present but the moon itself does not orbit the earth along our equatorial line (indeed it is 5.15 Degrees off of the equatorial axis)...

It orbits the earth along the solar eclipictic (the mean plane of the orbits of all the planets), indicating that it might be a 'captured' body that once orbited the sun on its own.



thats why i said almost... 6 and 7 % is not a big factor, but your right, it is not a perfect circle... in cosmic terms, 30 - 40 thousand miles is not a big distance, considering it is roughly 350,000 miles away. i wonder if the moon itself was the planet that hit earth?, if it aint hollow...

mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/01/11 08:04 PM
copied from another site...

Over the years, it has been scientifically observed that the Earth’s Moon holds some strange characteristics. The Moon is the 5th largest natural satellite in the Solar System. It is believed to have been created by a giant impact between the young Earth and a Mars-sized body. After examination, it has been noted that the Moon is apparently in the wrong orbit for its size, according to its current assumed density. Astronomy data indicates that the internal regions of the Moon are less dense than the outer, giving rise to the inevitable speculation that it could be hollow. Some of these claims come from the fact that when meteors strike the Moon, it rings like a bell. More specifically, when the Apollo crew, on November 20, 1969, released the lunar module, after returning to the orbiter, the module impact with the Moon caused their seismic equipment to register a continuous reverberation like a bell for more than an hour.

In July of 1970, members of the then Soviet Academy of Sciences, Michael Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov, proposed the Spaceship Moon Theory. The pseudoscientific theory claims that the Earth’s moon may actually be an alien spacecraft. Vasin and Shcherbakov’s thesis was that the Moon is a hollowed-out planetoid created by unknown beings with technology far superior to any on Earth. Huge machines would have been used to melt rock and form large cavities within the Moon. The Moon would, therefore, consist of a hull-like inner shell and an outer shell made from metallic rocky slag. The “Spaceship Moon” was then placed into orbit around the Earth. Proponents of this theory point to the increased reports and pictures of UFOs taken by NASA on their missions to the moon. It has been found that asteroids and meteors not only create shallow craters on the Moon’s surface, but produce a convex floor to the crater instead of concave as expected, supporting the idea of a rigid shell.

The moon is far older than previously expected, maybe even older than the Earth or the Sun. The oldest age for the Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old, while Moon rocks were dated at 5.3 billion years. The chemical composition of the dust upon which the rocks sit is remarkably different from the rocks themselves. This indicates that the lunar surface may have been moved from somewhere else and placed on the Moon. Some of the Moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the Moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions. Hundreds of moonquakes are recorded each year that cannot be attributed to meteor strikes. Some of the quakes seem to follow a specific schedule.

The moon’s crust is much harder than originally presumed. When NASA was recorded drilling down a few inches into the Moon’s surface, it appeared that metal shavings were visible. Earth’s moon is the only natural satellite in the Solar System that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. How does one explain the coincidence that the moon is just the right distance, coupled with just the right diameter, to completely cover the sun during an eclipse? Professional astronomers have been gradually discouraged from investigating a phenomenon that has been reported on the Moon for 1,000 years. It is short-lived light, color, or other changes in the appearance of the lunar surface, referred to as Transient Lunar Phenomena.

no photo
Fri 04/01/11 09:18 PM
Very interesting.

Yep, I think the moon is hollow. I think it is probably a spaceship. More likely a space station. No one has ever been able to tell me why the moon's orbit is so perfect and why we never see the other side of the moon. All they have ever did was to describe what has been observed, but not any scientific reason why.

littlehorn's photo
Fri 04/01/11 09:29 PM


Moon has an abundance of tremors

metalwing's photo
Sat 04/02/11 10:34 AM
Makes me want some cheese!

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/02/11 01:10 PM

According to SNOPES, the story about the moons of mars missing was in 2001. "Has NASA Betrayed Us?
30-SEP-01 (Updated): With the latest speculation that Phobos and Deimos have vanished, it is critical that someone comes forward with new observation data. With the recent global dust storm on Mars, and the increasing sightings of rare meteor events here on Earth, the sense of urgency for closure is being reinforced. Above all others, NASA has the assets to resolve this issue quickly and decisively. Yet, it hides in the shadows."

Here are some recent photos.

http://www.space.com/10733-mars-moon-phobos-photos.html


huh...they were all they same picture... and it didn't show the monoliths on the other side of it. the russians took some pictures of the monoliths before the spacecraft was lost.

http://palermoproject.com/Mars_Anomalies/PhobosAnomalies1.html

no photo
Wed 04/06/11 08:23 AM


According to SNOPES, the story about the moons of mars missing was in 2001. "Has NASA Betrayed Us?
30-SEP-01 (Updated): With the latest speculation that Phobos and Deimos have vanished, it is critical that someone comes forward with new observation data. With the recent global dust storm on Mars, and the increasing sightings of rare meteor events here on Earth, the sense of urgency for closure is being reinforced. Above all others, NASA has the assets to resolve this issue quickly and decisively. Yet, it hides in the shadows."

Here are some recent photos.

http://www.space.com/10733-mars-moon-phobos-photos.html


huh...they were all they same picture... and it didn't show the monoliths on the other side of it. the russians took some pictures of the monoliths before the spacecraft was lost.

http://palermoproject.com/Mars_Anomalies/PhobosAnomalies1.html


I'm pretty sure those moons are space ships. Our moon is some kind of space station too.


s1owhand's photo
Wed 04/06/11 01:29 PM
just drill a hole in the surface, holler in, and see if there is an echo

drinker

metalwing's photo
Wed 04/06/11 02:00 PM


According to SNOPES, the story about the moons of mars missing was in 2001. "Has NASA Betrayed Us?
30-SEP-01 (Updated): With the latest speculation that Phobos and Deimos have vanished, it is critical that someone comes forward with new observation data. With the recent global dust storm on Mars, and the increasing sightings of rare meteor events here on Earth, the sense of urgency for closure is being reinforced. Above all others, NASA has the assets to resolve this issue quickly and decisively. Yet, it hides in the shadows."

Here are some recent photos.

http://www.space.com/10733-mars-moon-phobos-photos.html


huh...they were all they same picture... and it didn't show the monoliths on the other side of it. the russians took some pictures of the monoliths before the spacecraft was lost.

http://palermoproject.com/Mars_Anomalies/PhobosAnomalies1.html


A pretty nice rock. What makes it important?

no photo
Wed 04/06/11 02:15 PM



According to SNOPES, the story about the moons of mars missing was in 2001. "Has NASA Betrayed Us?
30-SEP-01 (Updated): With the latest speculation that Phobos and Deimos have vanished, it is critical that someone comes forward with new observation data. With the recent global dust storm on Mars, and the increasing sightings of rare meteor events here on Earth, the sense of urgency for closure is being reinforced. Above all others, NASA has the assets to resolve this issue quickly and decisively. Yet, it hides in the shadows."

Here are some recent photos.

http://www.space.com/10733-mars-moon-phobos-photos.html


huh...they were all they same picture... and it didn't show the monoliths on the other side of it. the russians took some pictures of the monoliths before the spacecraft was lost.

http://palermoproject.com/Mars_Anomalies/PhobosAnomalies1.html


A pretty nice rock. What makes it important?


It is 'important' because it is not a natural 'moon.' It is a man-made ship or space station, or rather alien made. When this is proved, the existence of aliens or an advanced race of beings will have to be acknowledged by the scientific community.

It will change everything, including most traditional religions. Of course then humans will probably start worshiping them like gods. laugh


metalwing's photo
Wed 04/06/11 02:18 PM




According to SNOPES, the story about the moons of mars missing was in 2001. "Has NASA Betrayed Us?
30-SEP-01 (Updated): With the latest speculation that Phobos and Deimos have vanished, it is critical that someone comes forward with new observation data. With the recent global dust storm on Mars, and the increasing sightings of rare meteor events here on Earth, the sense of urgency for closure is being reinforced. Above all others, NASA has the assets to resolve this issue quickly and decisively. Yet, it hides in the shadows."

Here are some recent photos.

http://www.space.com/10733-mars-moon-phobos-photos.html


huh...they were all they same picture... and it didn't show the monoliths on the other side of it. the russians took some pictures of the monoliths before the spacecraft was lost.

http://palermoproject.com/Mars_Anomalies/PhobosAnomalies1.html


A pretty nice rock. What makes it important?


It is 'important' because it is not a natural 'moon.' It is a man-made ship or space station, or rather alien made. When this is proved, the existence of aliens or an advanced race of beings will have to be acknowledged by the scientific community.

It will change everything, including most traditional religions. Of course then humans will probably start worshiping them like gods. laugh




The clip is about the monolith shaped rock, not the moon.

no photo
Wed 04/06/11 02:58 PM





According to SNOPES, the story about the moons of mars missing was in 2001. "Has NASA Betrayed Us?
30-SEP-01 (Updated): With the latest speculation that Phobos and Deimos have vanished, it is critical that someone comes forward with new observation data. With the recent global dust storm on Mars, and the increasing sightings of rare meteor events here on Earth, the sense of urgency for closure is being reinforced. Above all others, NASA has the assets to resolve this issue quickly and decisively. Yet, it hides in the shadows."

Here are some recent photos.

http://www.space.com/10733-mars-moon-phobos-photos.html


huh...they were all they same picture... and it didn't show the monoliths on the other side of it. the russians took some pictures of the monoliths before the spacecraft was lost.

http://palermoproject.com/Mars_Anomalies/PhobosAnomalies1.html


A pretty nice rock. What makes it important?


It is 'important' because it is not a natural 'moon.' It is a man-made ship or space station, or rather alien made. When this is proved, the existence of aliens or an advanced race of beings will have to be acknowledged by the scientific community.

It will change everything, including most traditional religions. Of course then humans will probably start worshiping them like gods. laugh




The clip is about the monolith shaped rock, not the moon.


...which is on the moon... of mars.