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I would agree with that as long as, a Gov. official isn't deciding for them.
Now, I am well aware Dr.'s and hospitals do the death conferences. They decide who is in most urgent need, most likely to survive and other variables. Hopefully, those decisions are never made for political reasons. I have a DNR card. If, I'll never get off a machine, best not be put on one. |
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Wow! The lack of sympathy for suicide victims is pretty scary in here.
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In my job I work with some dangerous critters and I'm pretty sure I'll go out by tooth, fang or talon! So I don't worry about medical suicide or any of that nonsense. I'm going out old school! |
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Wow! The lack of sympathy for suicide victims is pretty scary in here. And WHY exactly should I feel any sympathy for someone who takes the easy way out unless it is due to terminal illness? I was pretty torn up for months when I found a friend of mine hanging by his neck in his garage! There was nothing I could have done for him. I have no sympathy for puzzies! Anyone who kills themselves over political beliefs is a LOOSER and deserves to get out of our faces! There are better ways to protest! Martyrdom proves nothing! People sure eat it up though! |
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Wow! The lack of sympathy for suicide victims is pretty scary in here. And WHY exactly should I feel any sympathy for someone who takes the easy way out unless it is due to terminal illness? I was pretty torn up for months when I found a friend of mine hanging by his neck in his garage! There was nothing I could have done for him. I have no sympathy for puzzies! Anyone who kills themselves over political beliefs is a LOOSER and deserves to get out of our faces! There are better ways to protest! Martyrdom proves nothing! People sure eat it up though! In my experience, having depression is a terminal illness. It never goes away, its always present, and its up to the person to try and over come it on a daily basis. All the people I have know who took their own life were great people only to have the world turn their backs on them because they ran out of money to support their treatment. I will not sit by and let people in this forum slander their names! |
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Is political suicide the same as depression caused suicide?
I believe in a person's right to end it if they so choose. I consider it sad that they have lost their enjoyment of life. As to stopping them though I wouldn't. My room mate found that out when she faked a suicide attempt with a disposable razor and I handed her the butcher knife to do it correctly. People who are dying of a terminal disease and choose to end it all on their own terms should be allowed to do so. |
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Wow! The lack of sympathy for suicide victims is pretty scary in here. And WHY exactly should I feel any sympathy for someone who takes the easy way out unless it is due to terminal illness? I was pretty torn up for months when I found a friend of mine hanging by his neck in his garage! There was nothing I could have done for him. I have no sympathy for puzzies! Anyone who kills themselves over political beliefs is a LOOSER and deserves to get out of our faces! There are better ways to protest! Martyrdom proves nothing! People sure eat it up though! In my experience, having depression is a terminal illness. It never goes away, its always present, and its up to the person to try and over come it on a daily basis. All the people I have know who took their own life were great people only to have the world turn their backs on them because they ran out of money to support their treatment. I will not sit by and let people in this forum slander their names! Kurt Kulbain... He had it all and yet he took a shotgun to his own head. He didn't like the world. Likewise I could argue circles about PTSD leading to suicide too BUT I dealt with PTSD through intense behavior modification. I am not slandering anyone here. I am just NOT sympathetic at all. I have seen my share of BS to know people only change when they want to. if they have some chemical problem that is genetic that MAKES them want to kill themselves then by all means I think they should get themselves out of the way and not breed and leave their defective genes in the gene pool! In real life natural order people like this would die off anyways! A depressed person can face their depression but they have to be strong enough to work past what messes them up. It isn't that I don't care, I am Draconian. Death is the easy way out with the exception of dying from cancer and stuff like that! If Morphine and Heroin can't get rid of the pain then death is the only way out! THAT I am sympathetic to! Suffering sucks when you can't get away from or stop it! "The government won't buy my meds for me anymore..." Oh boo hoo! That I not buying! Here is me crying tears over the weak. CENSORED! |
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Edited by
willing2
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Thu 02/17/11 04:19 PM
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Excessive drinking, overeating, smoking, drug addictions are all attempts at suicide.
Each one says,"I hate my life and I'd rather die than live healthy." Wanna' know how I know? Gonna' tell you anyway. I did them all. Paying for it now. When I was doing the excessive drinking and smoking I was a workaholic also. I did heavy manual labor. Didn't have any limits to what i could do. Results of my decisions, 3 collapsed discs. I still go and go. Just have to relax a little more. The pain pills I take cyclobenzaprine, tramadol, hydrocodone and to help slow down a bit, zanax. They just calm the pain. It's always there. I do the regiment in the morning and near bedtime. The rest of the day, I suffer through. Still have no thoughts of suicide. If I was soft and spoiled, I could easily mix up a couple handfuls and chase it all down with some Wild Turkey but, I chose to live. |
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[ if they have some chemical problem that is genetic that MAKES them want to kill themselves then by all means I think they should get themselves out of the way and not breed and leave their defective genes in the gene pool! In real life natural order people like this would die off anyways! "The government won't buy my meds for me anymore..." Oh boo hoo! That I not buying! Here is me crying tears over the weak. CENSORED! Antidepressents with no insurance is around 300 to 500 dollars for a month's supply. Anyone who can afford that must be rich and can probably live without worrying about insurance. Also, depression runs in my family, and many of them have killed themselves. So to tell me that I shouldn't breed or my Mom shouldn't have had me is a slap in the face that I will not tolerate. I've lost all respect for everyone in this topic. |
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I do understand the plight of the under and non insured.
I also understand the difficulty of the mentally ill in this country and their problems with lack of available care. As to the right of the suicidal. They have them. If they want to end their life, is it not their life to end? Who am I to tell them it is not? I do not say that in a hateful way, I say it in the same way I say each of us has freedom of thought and a right to it. |
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Committing suicide is a self-centered act!
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Just one of the laws of nature. Is that the way you like it? The weak die off, or kill themselves. The strong survive. Frankly that is life and people have to get over themselves. The environment is ever changing. And when things get tough the weak die, the tough survive. In all seriousness this is the way it MUST be. We are perverting our gene pool and allow people with no hope of survival in normal circumstances to live and breed and pollute the gene pool. To put this bluntly people who are genetically defective (retardation, hemophiliacs, and a host of other genetic conditions) should be sterilized if they are to live or terminated in-untero. Seems harsh? Not really, since in the wilderness a retard would get eaten by a bear. There is nothing special about genetic defects or the genetically defective. I know some azzhole out there will take this argument to some Sci-fi extreme but hey, screw them, they can live with the heartbreak of raising a retard! I would love to see some of these BHLs blow smoke up some alien specie's azz if and when they come to conquer us. The BHLs will toss hugs and roses, they will toss red hot death. In this UNIVERSE, This whole Encompassing reality it is all about survival of the fittest no matter how anyone wants to paint civilization. Sparta was a proper civilization but they are very selective about which children lived and which were rejected! On top of that go tell a bear to its face we are civilized and it is not and see what happens. if you are not armed or stronger than the bear guess what. You will be a spaghetti dinner for that bear! Didn't the Nazi's try this? |
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