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Topic: Three Democratic Senators Encourage Repeal of Health Care
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Thu 01/20/11 05:09 PM
WASHINGTON -- Three Senate Democrats say they'd be supportive of House-passed legislation that repeals the requirement for businesses to comply with a burdensome reporting provision in the new health care law.

Sens. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Maria Cantwell of Washington and Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota wrote House Speaker John Boehner Thursday, telling him the Senate would move quickly if the House passed a bill to repeal the provision that requires nearly 40 million U.S. businesses to file tax forms for every vendor that sells them more than $600 in goods.

The 1099 provision, as it's called, is scheduled to start in 2012 and is expected to raise $19 billion over the next decade in order to fund the $1 trillion, 10-year health care law that is the signature achievement of the Obama administration.

The repeal of the 1099 reporting rule is not a big stretch in the repeal movement initiated by Republicans, who voted in the House Wednesday to scrap the whole law. Even the White House wants to scrap what has been widely criticized as a paperwork nightmare, and the Treasury Department has already taken action to limit its scope.

But the 1099 rule repeal is a first step in reversing any aspect of the law since Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has vowed to prevent a full repeal vote in the Senate. And if it ever did make it out of that chamber, the White House has signaled it would veto any attempt to overturn President Obama's signature legislative accomplishment.

Still, Sen Jim DeMint, R-S.C., intends to introduce a bill next week that his spokesman says is "identical" to House-passed legislation that repeals the new health care law. DeMint spokesman Wesley Denton told Fox News that the DeMint repeal effort will have "a number of cosponsors."

Late Wednesday, Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., promised a vote to repeal in the chamber.

"The Democratic leadership in the Senate doesn't want to vote on this bill. But I assure you, we will," McConnell said in taped YouTube remarks e-mailed to the press.

Asked how a repeal vote could happen, given that Democrats control the Senate, McConnell spokesman Don Stewart told Fox News: "We have ways."

Stewart said many Democrats think arguing against repeal is a good political issue for them.

"So surely they'll want to bring it up, right?" Stewart asked.

One way for Republicans to bring a repeal bill to the Senate floor would be to try to offer it as an amendment to another piece of legislation. Another would be to call it up on its own, prompting Democrats to have to object on the record.

But it would be a rare find to have a Senate Democrat join a Republican-sponsored repeal in the Democratic-majority chamber.

Majority Republicans in the House stood unified for the 245-189 vote Wednesday to turn back the package that supporters say is vital to extending insurance coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans. Opponents call the law a stinker that will break the bank while limiting access to doctors and treatment.

The vote attracted only three Democrats to join Republicans to pass the repeal measure: Reps. Dan Boren of Oklahoma, Mike McIntyre of North Carolina and Mike Ross of Arkansas. All are moderates who voted against all forms of the health care bill in 2009 and 2010.

Ten Democrats who voted against the health care bill did not vote to repeal.

Click here to see how your representative voted.

On Thursday, the House voted 253-175 on a measure directing four committees -- Ways and Means, Energy and Commerce, Education and Workforce, and Judiciary -- to work out draft alternatives that reflect the GOP's philosophy.

Republicans say there's no timeline for their "replace" legislation, but they could start advancing specific proposals by the summer.

Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, said Wednesday he will hold a hearing to discuss the impact of the legislation on employers.

"This hearing provides us the opportunity to directly hear from employers about the higher taxes and new mandates that are in this law. This will also serve as a basis for how this Committee, and Congress, can best respond to the concerns of employers and workers and refocus its energy to develop common sense solutions that prioritize affordability, job creation, and economic growth," Camp said in a statement.

Whatever Republicans do, Democrats say they're confident the public will prefer the plan already in place, which would require all Americans to carry insurance, possibly through state-based insurance pools; offer tax credits to make insurance affordable; and close the Medicare doughnut hole. It would also eliminate Medicare Advantage and require employers to cover their workers.

"This (repeal) bill will not become law," said Rep. Sander Levin of Michigan, ranking Democrat on the Ways and Means Committee. "We on this side are on the offense on this issue. We are an American truth squad. (Repeal) will not prevail."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/20/gop-health-law-repeal-hard/#

The dam is about to break on Obamacare. Our elected officials know 9 out of 10 Americans want the law repealed, it's called political survival. :banana:

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Thu 01/20/11 06:49 PM
Republicans Plot Course for ObamaCare Replacement

House Republicans may have been able to pass a repeal of President Obama’s national health care law with a unanimous vote on a two-page bill, but the task ahead of them -- replacing the controversial program – will not be so simple.

In broad terms, GOP leaders agree on the goals. Lawmakers told FOX News that their broad goals include: cut waste, fraud and abuse; expand insurance coverage; reduce premiums; allow people to keep the coverage they have and block federal funding of abortion.

House Democrats scoff at the Republican effort, which is now underway on the committee level, as an empty promise.

This vague resolution stating so-called Republican principles on health care reform is like giving the American people a wish sandwich,” said Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Shultz of Florida. “There’s nothing between the bread, but we wish there was.”

House Republicans have been pushing some health changes all along. Republicans point to proposals such as medical malpractice lawsuit limits and expanding medical savings accounts, efforts that were blocked by Democrats in the majority for the past five years. Several specific packages are now being re-introduced.

One being supported by Republican Congressman Paul Broun from Georgia, who is also a family physician, would let people buy insurance across state lines; let individuals and businesses create insurance associations to reduce costs; create high-risk pools to cover those with pre-existing conditions and make all health care costs 100 percent tax deductible.

“It will be a patient-centered system,” Broun told FOX News. “Patients will own their own insurance policy so it solves the portability problem… It would give patients an option of finding low cost health insurance that they control.”

But to start implementing a replacement for Obama’s law, Republicans first have to push their repeal measure through the Senate.

The White House is simultaneously warning of the negative consequences of the GOP repeal and replace effort, while also dismissing it as futile.

“Out of pocket costs are going to go up if something like this were to become law, but I think thankfully it’s not going to,” said White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

The heat now falls on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who has promised he will not let the GOP’s repeal effort come up for debate on the Senate floor.

Conservative Republican Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina plans to offer just such a bill in the next two weeks and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., widely respected for his knowledge of arcane parliamentary maneuvers, is making a bold prediction.

“The Democratic leadership in the Senate doesn’t want a vote on this bill. But I assure you, we will,” said McConnell in a Web video congratulating the House on passing the repeal bill.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/20/republicans-plot-course-obamcare-replacement/#

Dragoness's photo
Thu 01/20/11 06:56 PM
Fox newsslaphead

Three democrats dislike one provision in the healthcare bill.

ONE PRPOVISION

That is not repealing healthcareslaphead

Lpdon's photo
Thu 01/20/11 06:59 PM
They said they are going to vote for the repeal. Nelson is one who originally wasn't going to support Obamacare and when he did it cost him his Senate career. Now he will do whatever he caan to save it because he knows he's gone in the next election and is trying to save his career.

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Thu 01/20/11 06:59 PM
The White House would like this repeal effort to go away for a while.

If the Senate passes it (there is a possibility this could occur)the ball drops squarly into the hands of the President.

He will then have one very tough choice. veto it(and watch america split even further down the middle - yet he will keep the left base while the Tea Parties types crash the White House switch board with millions of calls).

Sign it. (and anger the allready angry protesters that actually use violence and intimidation in politics - yet pick up the strong and growing stronger center and possibly even the slanted right).

Either way he gonna piss of someone.

hat would you do?

Lpdon's photo
Thu 01/20/11 07:01 PM

The White House would like this repeal effort to go away for a while.

If the Senate passes it (there is a possibility this could occur)the ball drops squarly into the hands of the President.

He will then have one very tough choice. veto it(and watch america split even further down the middle - yet he will keep the left base while the Tea Parties types crash the White House switch board with millions of calls).

Sign it. (and anger the allready angry protesters that actually use violence and intimidation in politics - yet pick up the strong and growing stronger center and possibly even the slanted right).

Either way he gonna piss of someone.

hat would you do?


If Obama veto's it, it will be the final nail in the coffin of him getting re-elected. Only 1 out of 10 Americans support Obamacare.

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Thu 01/20/11 07:06 PM
Edited by AdventureBegins on Thu 01/20/11 07:09 PM


The White House would like this repeal effort to go away for a while.

If the Senate passes it (there is a possibility this could occur)the ball drops squarly into the hands of the President.

He will then have one very tough choice. veto it(and watch america split even further down the middle - yet he will keep the left base while the Tea Parties types crash the White House switch board with millions of calls).

Sign it. (and anger the allready angry protesters that actually use violence and intimidation in politics - yet pick up the strong and growing stronger center and possibly even the slanted right).

Either way he gonna piss of someone.

hat would you do?


If Obama veto's it, it will be the final nail in the coffin of him getting re-elected. Only 1 out of 10 Americans support Obamacare.

Yep...

But if he signs it his future will be another term.

If I was in his shoes I would sign... I would not want my name on a bill and have it touted as my signature piece of legislation unless it was not formed in the mud of political division but rather attach it to a true piece of GOOD legislation.

do you think our politicians could produce that given that they all can read the voting public.

Most of us are center and fed up.

Heck in his shoes I would be on the phone TELLING the Senators to pass the darn thing (and back to the representatives TELLING them to get it right this time cause I intend to put my SIGNATURE on something right for the country and not right for one segment.


Lpdon's photo
Thu 01/20/11 07:09 PM



The White House would like this repeal effort to go away for a while.

If the Senate passes it (there is a possibility this could occur)the ball drops squarly into the hands of the President.

He will then have one very tough choice. veto it(and watch america split even further down the middle - yet he will keep the left base while the Tea Parties types crash the White House switch board with millions of calls).

Sign it. (and anger the allready angry protesters that actually use violence and intimidation in politics - yet pick up the strong and growing stronger center and possibly even the slanted right).

Either way he gonna piss of someone.

hat would you do?


If Obama veto's it, it will be the final nail in the coffin of him getting re-elected. Only 1 out of 10 Americans support Obamacare.

Yep...

But if he signs it his future will be another term.

If I was in his shoes I would sign... I would not want my name on a bill and have it touted as my signature piece of legislation unless it was not formed in the mud of political division but rather attach it to a true piece of GOOD legislation.

do you think our politicians could produce that given that they all can read the voting public.

Most of us are center and fed up.


He won't sign it though. He is a narcacistic dictator who doesn't want the blow to his ego it would cause.

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Thu 01/20/11 07:13 PM
While I don't agree with the policies he has initiated...

I don't agree either with what you said.

From watching his speaches I think he climbed the long road to the White House with a dream... but did not have all the information he has now.

So now we find out if he is capable of being the President so many voted for.

Not with a lean in any direction but foward.

As the people see foward.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 01/20/11 07:40 PM

While I don't agree with the policies he has initiated...

I don't agree either with what you said.

From watching his speaches I think he climbed the long road to the White House with a dream... but did not have all the information he has now.

So now we find out if he is capable of being the President so many voted for.

Not with a lean in any direction but foward.

As the people see foward.


surprised You don't think he's narcacistic? shocked

Dragoness's photo
Thu 01/20/11 07:47 PM
Again wanting to repeal one provision of the health care bill doesn't need a complete repeal nor does it mean they want a complete repeal.slaphead

Lpdon's photo
Thu 01/20/11 07:52 PM

Again wanting to repeal one provision of the health care bill doesn't need a complete repeal nor does it mean they want a complete repeal.slaphead


There will be.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 01/20/11 07:58 PM
Not if congress it wise they won't.

Americans want this healthcare reform.

It wasn't all that was wanted but it is a start.


AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 01/20/11 07:59 PM

Again wanting to repeal one provision of the health care bill doesn't need a complete repeal nor does it mean they want a complete repeal.slaphead

It was formed in a mud fight. The kind of mud that won't wash off.

America can do better.

Our legislators can do better.

Once they all climb out of the mud pit and start acting like they actually care about this WHOLE country with all its diversity.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 01/20/11 08:10 PM

Not if congress it wise they won't.

Americans want this healthcare reform.

It wasn't all that was wanted but it is a start.




Only ONE in TEN Americans want it.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 01/20/11 08:14 PM
That is bull shyte

Lpdon's photo
Thu 01/20/11 08:15 PM

That is bull shyte


No, it is very accurate.

AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 01/20/11 08:23 PM
I agree 1 in 10 is quite accurate.

People that actually answer polls is closer to 1 in 40.

Polls are skewed. Yet even with the skew they show more for repeal than against.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 01/20/11 08:24 PM
No it isn't.

Prove it from a non right wing site so we can all believe it,

And if it is accurate there will more than one site that says the same thing,

I know you can't because it isn't true.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 01/20/11 08:27 PM
whoa

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