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Topic: Before shooting, suspect embarked on chaotic night
Lpdon's photo
Sat 01/15/11 09:26 PM

Let them know since he probably won't have a trial since he is insane.


He knew right from wrong.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/15/11 09:42 PM




This guy isn't legally insane, he's just stupid. Probably spent too much time reading about the chemtrails conspiracy.
laugh laugh laugh drinker

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/15/11 09:44 PM


Let them know since he probably won't have a trial since he is insane.


He knew right from wrong.


I agree.

He knew what he was doing, and he's sane enough not to open his mouth and condemn himself further. An insane person would blabber his head off.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/15/11 09:46 PM




It's a story adding to his profile.
News stories are like TV.
If I don't like what's on, I can change the channel.
I see no need in demeaning or ridiculing the messenger.



Outside of the police his profile is useless.

This is really nothing more than fodder, garbage for the brain. The public doesn't need to know his profile, it isn't needed as most if not all have made their determination on him by his actions.


book - movie... someone will make a few dollars on it


If money is made it should go to the victims.


I think there are laws stating this now. A criminal can not profit from his crimes.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/15/11 09:59 PM





It's a story adding to his profile.
News stories are like TV.
If I don't like what's on, I can change the channel.
I see no need in demeaning or ridiculing the messenger.



Outside of the police his profile is useless.

This is really nothing more than fodder, garbage for the brain. The public doesn't need to know his profile, it isn't needed as most if not all have made their determination on him by his actions.


book - movie... someone will make a few dollars on it


If money is made it should go to the victims.


I think there are laws stating this now. A criminal can not profit from his crimes.


the criminal can never profit from it... but anyone else can

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/15/11 10:05 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 01/15/11 10:05 PM
After a brief search just now, I found that about a dozen states had enacted laws against such profiting, but in 1991 the US Supreme Court ruled against them and struck these laws down.

Mind you this was a very brief search.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 01/15/11 10:08 PM





It's a story adding to his profile.
News stories are like TV.
If I don't like what's on, I can change the channel.
I see no need in demeaning or ridiculing the messenger.



Outside of the police his profile is useless.

This is really nothing more than fodder, garbage for the brain. The public doesn't need to know his profile, it isn't needed as most if not all have made their determination on him by his actions.


book - movie... someone will make a few dollars on it


If money is made it should go to the victims.


I think there are laws stating this now. A criminal can not profit from his crimes.


Law's should be made, especially after this recent tragedy that any money maid off of events like these or worse goes to the victims. It should be a law.

Maybe a few of us here could work on it and see if we can convince any congressmen to go for it.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/15/11 10:10 PM

After a brief search just now, I found that about a dozen states had enacted laws against such profiting, but in 1991 the US Supreme Court ruled against them and struck these laws down.

Mind you this was a very brief search.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/15/11 10:15 PM
Supreme Court bars states from seizing criminals' royalties to pay victims Ruling casts doubt on Maryland's law
December 11, 1991|By Lyle Denniston | Lyle Denniston,Washington Bureau of The SunWASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court blocked states yesterday from getting money for victims of crime by taking over the fees or royalties that criminals get for telling their stories in books, magazines, movies or broadcasts.

In a unanimous ruling, the court struck down a New York law designed to stop criminals from making profits out of their crimes, saying the law violated the free speech rights of criminals whose storytelling itself is not a crime, and the rights of publishers and others who pay for criminals' stories.

In voiding the New York law, the court raised serious constitutional doubts about similar laws in Maryland and 41 other states, as well as a federal victim compensation law.

But the court's main opinion made it clear that states could pass laws to shift money or property from criminals to their victims -- so long as such laws did not single out the proceeds of storytelling as the sole source of payments to victims.

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who wrote the ruling, indicated that the court was sympathetic to states' goals of "ensuring that victims of crime are compensated by those who harm them" and of "ensuring that criminals do not profit from their crimes."

But, the ruling said, New York's law did not seek to achieve those goals by a law that was written carefully or narrowly enough to avoid interfering with rights of free expression under the First Amendment.

The state law was so sweeping, the court noted, that it might have applied to books by the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Malcolm X and other famous people who had had brushes with the law -- sometimes involving noble personal acts.

Nullified by the ruling was the "Son of Sam" law, adopted by New

York in 1977 when lawmakers feared that serial killer David R. Berkowitz -- who called himself "Son of Sam" -- would sell his story.

The New York law was never used against Berkowitz, even though a book, "Son of Sam," was later published about his crimes. He voluntarily paid his share of royalties to his victims or their survivors.

But the state's "criminal speech" law has been used to go after the proceeds of the stories of other well-known criminals, including school headmistress Jean Harris, convicted

killer of "diet doctor" Herman Tarnower, and Mark David Chapman, convicted of killing John Lennon.

The court noted that the New York law sought money for victims only out of the proceeds of criminals' "storytelling" and made no attempt to get at other funds held by criminals.

Eight justices supported the outcome. Justice Clarence Thomas, who did not join in the ruling, was not on the court when the case, Simon & Schuster vs. New York State Crime Victims Board (No. 90-1059), arose.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-12-11/news/1991345087_1_sam-law-criminals-york-law

This is an old story so it may have been overturned. However I can not find a different ruling. I will keep looking though.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 01/16/11 09:31 AM






It's a story adding to his profile.
News stories are like TV.
If I don't like what's on, I can change the channel.
I see no need in demeaning or ridiculing the messenger.



Outside of the police his profile is useless.

This is really nothing more than fodder, garbage for the brain. The public doesn't need to know his profile, it isn't needed as most if not all have made their determination on him by his actions.


book - movie... someone will make a few dollars on it


If money is made it should go to the victims.


I think there are laws stating this now. A criminal can not profit from his crimes.


Law's should be made, especially after this recent tragedy that any money maid off of events like these or worse goes to the victims. It should be a law.

Maybe a few of us here could work on it and see if we can convince any congressmen to go for it.


What makes this tragedy so much better than any other tragedy? Why should laws be enacted simply because of this tragedy, why weren't laws enacted after Columbine? 9/11? Where were you all at when the movies Bowling for Columbine and World Trade Center were made?

This is why I can't take any political side seriously, you're all just really out for yourselves and no one else.

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