THINK ON THIS PLEASE!!!!! Assuming Jesus Christ was God on earth, as some believe, why did He not write anything? Did He not know how to write? Did He not have the available tools with which to write? I believe He did not because He knew that all this crap would happen when humans get involved with spiritual things, which we know nothing about.

Go for it, prove Jesus a liar, I wanna see it.

When you tell your kids to do something, do/did you write it down? Or just tell them by mouth? If you told them you want your child to take out the garbage every Wednesday night. Would you have to write it down for later instructions? Or did you figure your child would do it even if it wasn't written down? Why would Jesus have to write anything? Why couldn't the laws just be carried by mouth?

Ok



John 5:41-47

41 "I do not receive honor from men. 42 But I know you, that you do not have the love of Yahweh in you. 43 I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. 44 How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only Elohim? 45 Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you — Moses, in whom you trust. 46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. 47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"
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You do not believe Moses..

Her Yahshua tells all Believe what the Jews tell you. Why? Matt 23:3

Then Yahshua spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2 saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.
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They sit in Moses seat.. That is the Law the Torah he is speaking of.

Christians HATE the Law or they would not say it was done away.

You point to the sermon on the mount but forget what else he said thier.

Matt 5:17-20

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
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You must exceed what the scribes and Pharasees do not do away with it.

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled


chr-stians claim he fullfilled the law so it is not in use.

Is the world still here?

Will the world be here when Yahshua comes back?

Will the Law be kept or no rain as in Zech?

Zech 14:16-19

And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which Yahweh strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
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That is clear TRUTH.

Did the John and the Disciples continue to Baptise after Yahshua was?

Matt 3:13-15

Then Yahshua came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him. 14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, "I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?"

15 But Yahshua answered and said to him, "Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he allowed Him.
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Fullfilled Baptism right?

Do you believe we must be Baptised?

Throw it out to if also the law.

What is said about the EVIL one?

The LAWLESS ONE..


2 Thess 2:5-12

5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom Yahshua will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason Yahweh will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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Pleasure in UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.. Yahweh sends STRONG DE$LUSION that they should BELIEVE A LIE!!!

Satan is The Lawless one and he will be consumed.

It is continual through the Scriptures that Satan Goes against Yahweh's Laws. The Torah the Word.

John 1:1-3

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Yahweh, and the Word was Yahweh. 2 He was in the beginning with Yahweh. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
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Nothing is done that it does not go through Yahshua our Messiah.

He is The Torah The Law from the Beginning he Makes no Mistakes.., The TRUTH>

He is not JC or j-hovah.

JC says The Law is Done away and he has come in his fathers name not Yahshua's Yahweh of Hosts.

John 5:43-44
3 I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.
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Who has come in his own name?

Who has the WORLD Recieved?

Iesous

NT:2424 Iesous (ee-ay-sooce'); of Hebrew origin [OT:3091]; Jesus (i.e. Jehoshua), the name of our Lord and two (three) other Israelites:


KJV - Jesus.

OT:3091

OT:3091 Yehowshuwa` (yeh-ho-shoo'-ah); or Yehowshu`a (yeh-ho-shoo'-ah); from OT:3068 and OT:3467; Jehovah-saved; Jehoshua (i.e. Joshua), the Jewish leader: -Jehoshua, Jehoshuah, Joshua. Compare OT:1954, OT:3442.

Yahshua has the same name as Joshua or Yahshua the son of NUN.

The get it right but not the MESSIAH.

Origin of SOW
Middle English sowe, from Old English sugu; akin to Old English & Old High German sū sow, Latin sus pig, swine, hog, Greek hys
First Known Use: before 12th century
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sow

No one really knows where the name j-sus came from. Yahshua did not have a greek name and names do not translate they TRANSLITERATE.

If Joe Smith in English is in Russia they will say the English sound still Joe Smith.

Just like when you see Billy Graham Preach in another language when he says jc the translater makes the same sounding name.

If Jc was written in latin then the sound is je..sus and the sus means sow.

Luke 23:38

38 And an inscription also was written over Him in letters of Greek, Latin, and Hebrew:

THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
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so apperently these 3 languages was used.

Yahshua is Hebrew . It has a distinct meaning that is the Basis for Yahshua.

He came to save his people.. Yahshua means in Hebrew which is the name given him Yahweh Saves or is Salvation.

Do we have the right to call him whatever name we want?

Acts 4:11-12
11 This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
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and we can not add to or take from the scriptures.

Rev 22:18-19

For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, Yahweh will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, Yahweh shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
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Satan Hates the Name of Yahshua. Yahshua said another would come in his own name.

John 5:42-43
42 But I know you, that you do not have the love of Yahweh in you. 43 I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.
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It says you do not have the LOVE of YAHWEH in YOU if you recieve another name.

But tradition is higher than the words of Yahweh. Yahweh is showing us now THE TRUTH that our forefathers could not possibly of understood because they would of needed a LIBRARY in front of them.

But now we do have a Library in front of us to SEARCH for THE TRUTH.

Will you search Cowboy? or do you Love TRADITION?

Satans (jc) his father j-hovah again the je is so questionable to where it came from but this is from the Hebrew that has great meanings in names.

Ps 83:18

18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is J-HOVAH , art the most high over all the earth.
KJV


Yehovah

OT:3068 Yehovah (yeh-ho-vaw'); from OT:1961; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God:


KJV - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare OT:3050, OT:3069
The hovah is a Hebrew word with great meaning. oppisite of Yahweh meaning self exsistant one.

hovah

OT:1943 hovah (ho-vaw'); another form for OT:1942; ruin:


KJV - mischief.

havvah

OT:1942 havvah (hav-vaw'); from OT:1933 (in the sense of eagerly coveting and rushing upon; by implication, of falling); desire; also ruin:


KJV - calamity, iniquity, mischief, mischievous (thing), naughtiness, naughty, noisome, perverse thing, substance, very wickedness.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

hovah is him..satan the father of lies.


How can YOU call the Holy one of Israel what seems to be a sow, swine and his Father a Liar and a Rebeller. who else can this be?

Don't believe me study to show yourself approved Cowboy.. Blessings of Shalom..Miles

Her Yahshua tells all Believe what the Jews tell you. Why? Matt 23:3

Then Yahshua spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2 saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.

i've been involved in raising my three children, and as you say, you don't write things down. however; if my intention was to be an enfluence to all my children's children and all their children for the rest of time, it should be written down, don't you think? I'm not just talking about the immediate settings, i'm discussing a piece of literature that should have been designed to last forever! As the Bible was supposedly designed to be, not just for a certain time period.

i've been involved in raising my three children, and as you say, you don't write things down. however; if my intention was to be an enfluence to all my children's children and all their children for the rest of time, it should be written down, don't you think? I'm not just talking about the immediate settings, i'm discussing a piece of literature that should have been designed to last forever! As the Bible was supposedly designed to be, not just for a certain time period.

Excellent points Bumblebee. Moreover, if it was supposedly unimportant for Jesus to write it down, then it would have certainly been unimportant for anyone else to write it down.

Yet the whole of Christianity bigotry is based on using written doctrine as the word of God carved in stone.

So that's an oxymoron right there.

If the power of the word is that it be written out, then Jesus would have been forfeiting his power to the hearsay rumors of others.

I agree, the entire biblical doctrine has been totally contaminated by undependable hearsay rumors that reduce it to nothing more than totally undependable babble.

That's an absolute truth right there that we can all be certain of.

Excellent points Bumblebee. Moreover, if it was supposedly unimportant for Jesus to write it down, then it would have certainly been unimportant for anyone else to write it down.

Yet the whole of Christianity bigotry is based on using written doctrine as the word of God carved in stone

Gonna take a while, but I hope to have responded to the entire post in a short time. Gonna break it down into more simple responses rather then having a bulk of things to read.

Matthew 23:3

3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

This does not specifically say to believe what the jews tell us. All this is telling us is they were being hypocrites. They say and do not, they tell you not to lie but they lie themselves, they tell you not to steal yet they steal themselves, ect. He was using an example for us on what not to do. He told of how the Pharisees did and told us not to do as they did. Teaching by example.

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled


chr-stians claim he fullfilled the law so it is not in use.

Is the world still here?

Will the world be here when Yahshua comes back?

Will the Law be kept or no rain as in Zech?

Yes Jesus fulfilled the old testament, the tora if you will. The old laws. The testaments have a prophecy of the ending of the testament, the old testament ended with the prophecy of the coming of a saviour. The birth of Jesus then fulfilled it, he was the one it prophesied for.

Yes the world will still be here. The world never dies and or is destroyed. This is where heaven will be one day, God brings heaven down to earth.

Did the John and the Disciples continue to Baptise after Yahshua was?

Matt 3:13-15

Then Yahshua came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him. 14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, "I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?"

15 But Yahshua answered and said to him, "Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he allowed Him.
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Fullfilled Baptism right?

Do you believe we must be Baptised?

Throw it out to if also the law.

You are giving opinion not facts.

So is Baptism fullfilled? John was killed shortly after this.

Yahshua fullfilled Righteousness ..

So do we throw out being Baptised too?

If not why? whats different? Shalom..Miles

Did the John and the Disciples continue to Baptise after Yahshua was?

Matt 3:13-15

Then Yahshua came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him. 14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, "I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?"

15 But Yahshua answered and said to him, "Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he allowed Him.

The truth that I am referring to is multifaceted, its principles are rooted in my faith that is correct, but it reaches far beyond my faith deep into my life experiences.(which I wont get into at this time) In part I have been on each end of the extreme pendulum swing, from tremendous excess to tremendous lack. These things seem to ring true for most people:
There are a lot of things in our lives that we either wish we had or hadn’t done. Things we planned to do but never got around to do, or maybe things just came up that didn’t allow us to do what we had planned. Possibly things just happened that changed the course of our lives. Such as divorce, an accident, the stock market crashed, you lost your job, or someone died, you know things like that. For most of us these things seem to ring true, While for others things just seem to work out fine well from our perspective anyway.
I have found that no matter what hand we have been dealt in this life or what blindsiding blow we have received there are definite constants that are woven into the fiber of the canvas of the paintings of our lives and we are actually the ones who determine what the final picture of our lives will look like.


I have had the privilege of seeing things from many different aspects of life. Those that have, and those that don’t, those who want, and those that want more, those that had, and those that lost everything that they had either through tragedy or just making wrong decisions, either by others or by themselves.
I have come to the following conclusion; That the greatest need we have as a people is the need to be needed, the need to be heard, the need to be noticed ,the need to be accepted, which basically boils down to the need to be loved. These things seem to be their driving force behind what we do, how we respond, how we think etc. etc. etc. From our infancy to this present age. So I began a quest to find out what was so important about these needs.
You have to keep in mind that I did counseling for over 17 years, so I’ve heard literally thousands of stories from people from all over the world and every walk of life, I am still involved in counseling to some degree, just not as much as I was.
Believe me I tried everything under the sun to help me solve the riddle of life in my quest for love.
I have been able to and have been given the great privilege of receiving from extensive studies a great deal of understanding concerning these present day tactics of what I will call the enemy,
Whether it’s disguised in religious ceremony and theological dissertations from these so called self proclaimed theologians of the scriptures who have dictated to us the who's who in the church world. Or the occult practices both in and out of the known church world, such as divination, witchcraft, channeling, mythology, mind control, guided imagery / creative visualization, spirit guides or new age medicine. To be very honest with you, it is ok to be honest is it not? I am not impressed; as a matter of fact, I'm a little embarrassed that I even fell for some of it at one point or another.
I have tasted both sides of the fence and found great similarities between the two. One being that they always left me wanting more; either I was trying to achieve that ultimate high or the greater glory. I must say in both what I was really looking for was rest.(peace if you will.)


Well put I can see that you have done your homework;

I see that for whatever reason you did study the scriptures in great detail, as well as other modalities, (what was it exactly that you were looking for?) You don’t have to answer that.

Why do people go into or get involved in New Age or Occultic practices anyway?

Does it not come out of a need to be in control of ones destiny?
What drives that need?
-Fear or a lack of trust in GOD?
-Needing to know—divination
-Needing to control—witchcraft/ or sorcery

Definition of occult from Astronomy/ occultism:

When one heavenly body passes in front of another and obscures the one behind.

-Occultism is spiritual and appears to be light but in truth it is the counterfit:

2 Corinthians 11:3-4 but I fear,lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtily, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.- for if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus,whom we have not preached,or if ye receive another spirit,which ye have not received,or another gospel which ye have not accepted,ye might well bear with him.

At times good and evil look very much alike and the only way to know the difference is by the spirit of God and the scriptures.

Let’s take a closer look at the New Age Movement,

It’s not new at all it is the ancient religion of the Chaldeans and the Babylonians.

The term new age is copyrighted by the Masons.
What is the agenda?
-to demote Jesus Christ as Son of God and God himself.

To make Jesus one of man, another man, a teacher, an historical figure.

Isaiah 30:1-3, 5:20-21… Proverbs 14:12; 16:2, genesis 3:5

The new age is a large, loosely structured network of organizations and persons bound together by common values and a common vision.

New Age is repackaged Hinduism
-millions of gods; no founder or established canon
-believes in a universal, impersonal, pantheistic god
-based on Mythology and encompasses a variety of religious beliefs and practices
- no good or evil, no right or wrong
- all life is an illusion referred to as Maya
-the goal is to turn inward to discover ones true nature using an altered state of consciousness to experience union with god
- inner experience is exalted


Look you seem like you are a very nice person and I have enjoyed talking with you thus far, but have you ever considered that the reason you don’t believe the bible and the revelation of God in the bible might come from the fact that it wasn’t written to you, it’s kind of like reading someone elses mail, who does that? The bible is written to those who believe, who God refers to as his own. It cannot be interpreted using the natural mind, or any other spirit other than Gods Spirit.
Our own natural minds hate GOD, and the preaching of the cross is foolishness to them that believe not.

In regards to the evil we see around the world and how God feels about it, well go back to the garden of eden evil did not exist in mankind until sin was introduced and the wages or the reward of sin is death and destruction, The reward of believing God and accepting that what Jesus did
Is more abundant life and peace.

Yes we are and yes they continued to baptise. No Jesus didn't fulfil "baptism". Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of this happening.

Hosea 13:4 (New King James Version)
4 “ Yet I am the LORD your God
Ever since the land of Egypt,
And you shall know no God but Me;
For there is no savior besides Me.


Isaiah 43:10-12 (New King James Version)
10 “ You are My witnesses,” says the LORD,

“ And My servant whom I have chosen,
That you may know and believe Me,
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.
11 I, even I, am the LORD,
And besides Me there is no savior.
12 I have declared and saved,
I have proclaimed,
And there was no foreign god among you;
Therefore you are My witnesses,”
Says the LORD, “that I am God.