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'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says U.S. soldier who raped 14-year-old girl before killing her and her family
An Iraq War veteran serving five life terms for raping and killing a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and killing her parents and sister says he didn't think of Iraqi civilians as humans after being exposed to extreme warzone violence. Steven Green, a former 101st Airborne soldier, in his first interview since the 2006 killings, claimed that his crimes were fuelled in part by experiences in Iraq's violent 'Triangle of Death' where two of his sergeants were gunned down. He also cited a lack of leadership and help from the Army. 'I was crazy,' Green said in the exclusive telephone interview from federal prison in Tucson, Arizona. 'I was just all the way out there. I didn't think I was going to live.' Green talked about what led up to the March 12, 2006, attack on a family near Mahmoudiya, Iraq, that left him serving five consecutive life sentences. The former soldier, who apologised at sentencing for his crimes, said he wasn't seeking sympathy nor trying to justify his actions - killings prosecutors described at trial in 2009 as one of the worst crimes of the Iraq war. But Green said people should know his actions were a consequence of his circumstances in a war zone. 'If I hadn't ever been in Iraq, I wouldn't be in the kind of trouble I'm in now,' Green said. 'I'm not happy about that.' Green was discharged with a 'personality disorder' before federal charges were brought against him. Prosecutors sought a death sentence, but a federal jury in Paducah, Kentucky, opted for five life sentences on charges including the rape and murder of 14-year-old Abeer Qassim Al-Janabi and the shooting deaths of her mother, father and younger sister. Four other soldiers were convicted in military court for various roles in the attack. Three remain in military prison. Green is challenging the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act, which allows the federal government to charge an American in civilian court for alleged crimes committed overseas. He was the first former soldier convicted under the statute. The U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals has scheduled arguments for January 21. Green is challenging the constitutionality of that law, saying it gives the executive branch too much leeway over whom to prosecute. Prosecutors say the law should be upheld. 'I've got some hope, but I'm not delusional about it,' said Green, now 25. 'I hope it works. But, whenever they give you multiple life sentences, they're not planning on letting you out.' Green didn't testify at trial. During sentencing, he apologized and said he expects to face 'God's justice' when he dies. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340207/I-didnt-think-Iraqis-humans-says-U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-girl-killing-her-family.html#ixzz18hMLmRR3 I suppose the Nazis probably wouldnt have put him in Jail so we are one step higer on the evelutionary ladder than them but what a shame for all conscerned. Our tax dollars hard at work. |
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'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says U.S. soldier who raped 14-year-old girl before killing her and her family An Iraq War veteran serving five life terms for raping and killing a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and killing her parents and sister says he didn't think of Iraqi civilians as humans after being exposed to extreme warzone violence. Steven Green, a former 101st Airborne soldier, in his first interview since the 2006 killings, claimed that his crimes were fuelled in part by experiences in Iraq's violent 'Triangle of Death' where two of his sergeants were gunned down. He also cited a lack of leadership and help from the Army. 'I was crazy,' Green said in the exclusive telephone interview from federal prison in Tucson, Arizona. 'I was just all the way out there. I didn't think I was going to live.' Green talked about what led up to the March 12, 2006, attack on a family near Mahmoudiya, Iraq, that left him serving five consecutive life sentences. The former soldier, who apologised at sentencing for his crimes, said he wasn't seeking sympathy nor trying to justify his actions - killings prosecutors described at trial in 2009 as one of the worst crimes of the Iraq war. But Green said people should know his actions were a consequence of his circumstances in a war zone. 'If I hadn't ever been in Iraq, I wouldn't be in the kind of trouble I'm in now,' Green said. 'I'm not happy about that.' Green was discharged with a 'personality disorder' before federal charges were brought against him. Prosecutors sought a death sentence, but a federal jury in Paducah, Kentucky, opted for five life sentences on charges including the rape and murder of 14-year-old Abeer Qassim Al-Janabi and the shooting deaths of her mother, father and younger sister. Four other soldiers were convicted in military court for various roles in the attack. Three remain in military prison. Green is challenging the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act, which allows the federal government to charge an American in civilian court for alleged crimes committed overseas. He was the first former soldier convicted under the statute. The U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals has scheduled arguments for January 21. Green is challenging the constitutionality of that law, saying it gives the executive branch too much leeway over whom to prosecute. Prosecutors say the law should be upheld. 'I've got some hope, but I'm not delusional about it,' said Green, now 25. 'I hope it works. But, whenever they give you multiple life sentences, they're not planning on letting you out.' Green didn't testify at trial. During sentencing, he apologized and said he expects to face 'God's justice' when he dies. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340207/I-didnt-think-Iraqis-humans-says-U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-girl-killing-her-family.html#ixzz18hMLmRR3 I suppose the Nazis probably wouldnt have put him in Jail so we are one step higer on the evelutionary ladder than them but what a shame for all conscerned. Our tax dollars hard at work. so whats your point to this? they were arrested, going to trial, and punishment will be set...there is bad apples everywhere, in all races. nobody excused them, no wrist slapping... did you think everyone in the military is an angel?? look at Vietnam, how many little girls were raped there? it happens in every war, in every side. |
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'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says U.S. soldier who raped 14-year-old girl before killing her and her family An Iraq War veteran serving five life terms for raping and killing a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and killing her parents and sister says he didn't think of Iraqi civilians as humans after being exposed to extreme warzone violence. Steven Green, a former 101st Airborne soldier, in his first interview since the 2006 killings, claimed that his crimes were fuelled in part by experiences in Iraq's violent 'Triangle of Death' where two of his sergeants were gunned down. He also cited a lack of leadership and help from the Army. 'I was crazy,' Green said in the exclusive telephone interview from federal prison in Tucson, Arizona. 'I was just all the way out there. I didn't think I was going to live.' Green talked about what led up to the March 12, 2006, attack on a family near Mahmoudiya, Iraq, that left him serving five consecutive life sentences. The former soldier, who apologised at sentencing for his crimes, said he wasn't seeking sympathy nor trying to justify his actions - killings prosecutors described at trial in 2009 as one of the worst crimes of the Iraq war. But Green said people should know his actions were a consequence of his circumstances in a war zone. 'If I hadn't ever been in Iraq, I wouldn't be in the kind of trouble I'm in now,' Green said. 'I'm not happy about that.' Green was discharged with a 'personality disorder' before federal charges were brought against him. Prosecutors sought a death sentence, but a federal jury in Paducah, Kentucky, opted for five life sentences on charges including the rape and murder of 14-year-old Abeer Qassim Al-Janabi and the shooting deaths of her mother, father and younger sister. Four other soldiers were convicted in military court for various roles in the attack. Three remain in military prison. Green is challenging the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act, which allows the federal government to charge an American in civilian court for alleged crimes committed overseas. He was the first former soldier convicted under the statute. The U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals has scheduled arguments for January 21. Green is challenging the constitutionality of that law, saying it gives the executive branch too much leeway over whom to prosecute. Prosecutors say the law should be upheld. 'I've got some hope, but I'm not delusional about it,' said Green, now 25. 'I hope it works. But, whenever they give you multiple life sentences, they're not planning on letting you out.' Green didn't testify at trial. During sentencing, he apologized and said he expects to face 'God's justice' when he dies. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340207/I-didnt-think-Iraqis-humans-says-U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-girl-killing-her-family.html#ixzz18hMLmRR3 I suppose the Nazis probably wouldnt have put him in Jail so we are one step higer on the evelutionary ladder than them but what a shame for all conscerned. Our tax dollars hard at work. so whats your point to this? they were arrested, going to trial, and punishment will be set...there is bad apples everywhere, in all races. nobody excused them, no wrist slapping... did you think everyone in the military is an angel?? look at Vietnam, how many little girls were raped there? it happens in every war, in every side. |
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'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says U.S. soldier who raped 14-year-old girl before killing her and her family An Iraq War veteran serving five life terms for raping and killing a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and killing her parents and sister says he didn't think of Iraqi civilians as humans after being exposed to extreme warzone violence. Steven Green, a former 101st Airborne soldier, in his first interview since the 2006 killings, claimed that his crimes were fuelled in part by experiences in Iraq's violent 'Triangle of Death' where two of his sergeants were gunned down. He also cited a lack of leadership and help from the Army. 'I was crazy,' Green said in the exclusive telephone interview from federal prison in Tucson, Arizona. 'I was just all the way out there. I didn't think I was going to live.' Green talked about what led up to the March 12, 2006, attack on a family near Mahmoudiya, Iraq, that left him serving five consecutive life sentences. The former soldier, who apologised at sentencing for his crimes, said he wasn't seeking sympathy nor trying to justify his actions - killings prosecutors described at trial in 2009 as one of the worst crimes of the Iraq war. But Green said people should know his actions were a consequence of his circumstances in a war zone. 'If I hadn't ever been in Iraq, I wouldn't be in the kind of trouble I'm in now,' Green said. 'I'm not happy about that.' Green was discharged with a 'personality disorder' before federal charges were brought against him. Prosecutors sought a death sentence, but a federal jury in Paducah, Kentucky, opted for five life sentences on charges including the rape and murder of 14-year-old Abeer Qassim Al-Janabi and the shooting deaths of her mother, father and younger sister. Four other soldiers were convicted in military court for various roles in the attack. Three remain in military prison. Green is challenging the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act, which allows the federal government to charge an American in civilian court for alleged crimes committed overseas. He was the first former soldier convicted under the statute. The U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals has scheduled arguments for January 21. Green is challenging the constitutionality of that law, saying it gives the executive branch too much leeway over whom to prosecute. Prosecutors say the law should be upheld. 'I've got some hope, but I'm not delusional about it,' said Green, now 25. 'I hope it works. But, whenever they give you multiple life sentences, they're not planning on letting you out.' Green didn't testify at trial. During sentencing, he apologized and said he expects to face 'God's justice' when he dies. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340207/I-didnt-think-Iraqis-humans-says-U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-girl-killing-her-family.html#ixzz18hMLmRR3 I suppose the Nazis probably wouldnt have put him in Jail so we are one step higer on the evelutionary ladder than them but what a shame for all conscerned. Our tax dollars hard at work. so whats your point to this? they were arrested, going to trial, and punishment will be set...there is bad apples everywhere, in all races. nobody excused them, no wrist slapping... did you think everyone in the military is an angel?? look at Vietnam, how many little girls were raped there? it happens in every war, in every side. no, it just shames you because you let it.... it is over and done with, and all your worrying about will never change anything. you can call everyone a rhube, blame bush for every single problem in the world, but the bottom line is, it won't change history. your big eared boy barry declared the war over, so you should be happy. that is one of this countries biggest problems is always trying to find a blame for something, when the bigger problem is finding an answer to the problem.... |
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Lt. William Calley said pretty much the same about the attrocities he committed in Viet Nam. No excuse will suffice, not then and not now.
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Lt. William Calley said pretty much the same about the attrocities he committed in Viet Nam. No excuse will suffice, not then and not now. i agree, there is no excuse for it, and i wish our soldiers didn't do these weird things... but war changes people, when men think they are going to die, they will do strange things.... |
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no excuses indeed...she seemed human enough to rape.
Sad, very sad. |
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Hand wringers  All I will say about this is if you don't have PTSD you don't have an opinion, you might think ya do, but you don't. I'm out
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PTSD is an excuse for rape and murder....HMMMMMMM
my, my we're becoming sooooo excepting aren't we??? Fu *ck that! |
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no excuses indeed...she seemed human enough to rape. Sad, very sad. |
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The point being of course The Iraqis never should been our target for war. The Rubes in america can work themselves into a frenzy over wiki leaks or the faux rape charges against Asange but when the ugly reality of war showes itself, well its just war thats what happens. The war in Iraq shames us as a country and every move we make in the "war on terror" leaves us in a worse position than before. We are far less safe than before in every way. Curse Bush and the rest for turning 911 into a crusade. +100000 |
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Edited by
mightymoe
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Mon 12/20/10 01:26 PM
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The point being of course The Iraqis never should been our target for war. The Rubes in america can work themselves into a frenzy over wiki leaks or the faux rape charges against Asange but when the ugly reality of war showes itself, well its just war thats what happens. The war in Iraq shames us as a country and every move we make in the "war on terror" leaves us in a worse position than before. We are far less safe than before in every way. Curse Bush and the rest for turning 911 into a crusade.
+100000 yall just keep living in the past, doesn't really bother me any.... what about the 1000's of girls that are raped here everyday? i don't hear you guys worrying about that any...seem like you could care less about the rape and murder part, just an excuse to whine about a war THAT IS OVER AND DONE WITH!!! |
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+100000 yall just keep living in the past, doesn't really bother me any.... what about the 1000's of girls that are raped here everyday? i don't hear you guys worrying about that any...seem like you could care less about the rape and murder part, just an excuse to whine about a war THAT IS OVER AND DONE WITH!!! that would be nice if the war was over but it will never end either we exterminate and commit genocide in an imoral invasion or we will leave after we are bankrupt. |
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Edited by
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Mon 12/20/10 01:31 PM
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The point being of course The Iraqis never should been our target for war. The Rubes in america can work themselves into a frenzy over wiki leaks or the faux rape charges against Asange but when the ugly reality of war showes itself, well its just war thats what happens. The war in Iraq shames us as a country and every move we make in the "war on terror" leaves us in a worse position than before. We are far less safe than before in every way. Curse Bush and the rest for turning 911 into a crusade.
+100000 yall just keep living in the past, doesn't really bother me any.... what about the 1000's of girls that are raped here everyday? i don't hear you guys worrying about that any...seem like you could care less about the rape and murder part, just an excuse to whine about a war THAT IS OVER AND DONE WITH!!! When there is a major story about soldiers (foreign or domestic) raping people in America, please post it and we'll discuss it. (The "hot" part of the war is over, but the occupation continues. Technically, the war isn't over till US forces withdraw.) |
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The point being of course The Iraqis never should been our target for war. The Rubes in america can work themselves into a frenzy over wiki leaks or the faux rape charges against Asange but when the ugly reality of war showes itself, well its just war thats what happens. The war in Iraq shames us as a country and every move we make in the "war on terror" leaves us in a worse position than before. We are far less safe than before in every way. Curse Bush and the rest for turning 911 into a crusade.
+100000 yall just keep living in the past, doesn't really bother me any.... what about the 1000's of girls that are raped here everyday? i don't hear you guys worrying about that any...seem like you could care less about the rape and murder part, just an excuse to whine about a war THAT IS OVER AND DONE WITH!!! When there is a major story about soldiers (foreign or domestic) raping people in America, please post it and we'll discuss it. (The "hot" part of the war is over, but the occupation continues. Technically, the war isn't over till US forces withdraw.) a rape is a rape, it doesn't really matter who does it.... or do you think it is a worse crime just because a soldier does it? barry said the war was over, so you saying he lied? |
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The point being of course The Iraqis never should been our target for war. The Rubes in america can work themselves into a frenzy over wiki leaks or the faux rape charges against Asange but when the ugly reality of war showes itself, well its just war thats what happens. The war in Iraq shames us as a country and every move we make in the "war on terror" leaves us in a worse position than before. We are far less safe than before in every way. Curse Bush and the rest for turning 911 into a crusade.
+100000 yall just keep living in the past, doesn't really bother me any.... what about the 1000's of girls that are raped here everyday? i don't hear you guys worrying about that any...seem like you could care less about the rape and murder part, just an excuse to whine about a war THAT IS OVER AND DONE WITH!!! When there is a major story about soldiers (foreign or domestic) raping people in America, please post it and we'll discuss it. (The "hot" part of the war is over, but the occupation continues. Technically, the war isn't over till US forces withdraw.) |
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Hand wringers All I will say about this is if you don't have PTSD you don't have an opinion, you might think ya do, but you don't. I'm out
Truer words have not been spoken here.
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it seems the important thing to know is was his sentence fair and just.
he says he wishes no mercy for his crimes, of NOT CARING, against another, but then says it is because of "environmental factors", and if he had NOT BEEN SENT TO WAR, this WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURED? but he chose to ENLIST, to serve, so HE PLACED HIMSELF THERE. but no true reality of seeing this. so, he takes no accountability AS HIMSELF IN CONTROL OF HIMSELF. so,his sentence WAS JUST. the matter of the war itself, IS AS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE. he thought I WAS GOING TO DIE... so, HE WANTED A LITTLE PLEASURE BEFORE HIS LAST BREATH! kill him. as he did those others. execute him. life in prison was but to place him in a surrounding full of others just as himself, AND JUST HOW IS THAT GOING TO REHABILITATE HIM? bullshitz of unsanity... just a matter of humans having each their own unique set of guilt feelings, for their own IMPULSES AND URGES, AND SO CONDONE OR HAVE MERCY ON OTHERS FOR THEM. WHAT HAS NO GUILT ITSELF, WILL NOT FALL PREY TO SUCH UNSANITY. anyways. just a rant about this sick fucck, whom will STILL NOT SEE OTHERS AS HUMAN, BECAUSE HE ONLY VALUES HIMSELF, SO SEEN THEM AS OBJECTS, and this was THERE LONG BEFORE ONE WAS IN WAR, OR ONE WOULD BE THE ONE RESCUING THOSE BEING RAPED, NOT THE RAPER HIMSELF. |
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