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There is a popular belief that the best spouses are found in churches, not in bars. Do you agree? Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? Please share your thoughts. Disagree. Church can be the house of hypocrisy. There are just as many "bad" people in church as in a bar; conversely, there are just as many "good" people in a bar as in church. Google the stories of the BTK Killer and John List as prime examples (serial killers found in churches). Meeting someone requires common sense and not the Potemkin Village of “religion”. Very very good. So we could conclude then that church and bar are simply serving similar purposes: socialization and inner healing? Probably the approach and tools are different? Wow, I've never actually looked at it the way you put it - but it's a fact that bad/good people hibernate in both places. Thank you. |
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There is a popular belief that the best spouses are found in churches, not in bars. Do you agree? Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? Please share your thoughts. It's harder to find a nymphomaniac submissive with a massive rack in a church.  That is too f'ing funny!!! They are there ... probably doing the head church guy behind the altar!  I think I have the massive rack, and nymph applies all the time. You will have serious problems with me on the submissive quality however. Compromise and meet behind the altar?? 
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every relationship could benefit by a spiritual connection, friends, lovers, children..etc. Ok, here's a different voice. Thanks for registering your view, and could you please tell us some of those potential benefits? |
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There is a popular belief that the best spouses are found in churches, not in bars. Do you agree? Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? Please share your thoughts. It's harder to find a nymphomaniac submissive with a massive rack in a church. That is too f'ing funny!!! They are there ... probably doing the head church guy behind the altar! I think I have the massive rack, and nymph applies all the time. You will have serious problems with me on the submissive quality however. Compromise and meet behind the altar?? Behind it, on top of it, all good! (And yes, the rack applies in your case lol) I have no problem power sharing, as long as you don't mind a playful fight for control lol P.S. Marry me?! 
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There is a popular belief that the best spouses are found in churches, not in bars. Do you agree? Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? Please share your thoughts. It's harder to find a nymphomaniac submissive with a massive rack in a church. That is too f'ing funny!!! They are there ... probably doing the head church guy behind the altar! I think I have the massive rack, and nymph applies all the time. You will have serious problems with me on the submissive quality however. Compromise and meet behind the altar?? hmmmm..... lol....you guys are something else....lol So where's the best place to find a good spouse? |
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There is a popular belief that the best spouses are found in churches, not in bars. Do you agree? Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? Please share your thoughts. It's harder to find a nymphomaniac submissive with a massive rack in a church. That is too f'ing funny!!! They are there ... probably doing the head church guy behind the altar! I think I have the massive rack, and nymph applies all the time. You will have serious problems with me on the submissive quality however. Compromise and meet behind the altar?? hmmmm..... lol....you guys are something else....lol So where's the best place to find a good spouse? S&M.com |
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There is a popular belief that the best spouses are found in churches, not in bars. Do you agree? Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? Please share your thoughts. It's harder to find a nymphomaniac submissive with a massive rack in a church. That is too f'ing funny!!! They are there ... probably doing the head church guy behind the altar! I think I have the massive rack, and nymph applies all the time. You will have serious problems with me on the submissive quality however. Compromise and meet behind the altar?? hmmmm..... lol....you guys are something else....lol So where's the best place to find a good spouse? there is a big sale in the U.S.S.R right now or you could wait for the after Christmas bargain days to begin in the Far East. |
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There is a popular belief that the best spouses are found in churches, not in bars. Do you agree? Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? Please share your thoughts. It's harder to find a nymphomaniac submissive with a massive rack in a church. That is too f'ing funny!!! They are there ... probably doing the head church guy behind the altar! I think I have the massive rack, and nymph applies all the time. You will have serious problems with me on the submissive quality however. Compromise and meet behind the altar?? hmmmm..... lol....you guys are something else....lol So where's the best place to find a good spouse? S&M.com lol...whatever!!! |
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every relationship could benefit by a spiritual connection, friends, lovers, children..etc. Ok, here's a different voice. Thanks for registering your view, and could you please tell us some of those potential benefits? We are all connected, we're all one..when we can see the divinity in others we will naturally want to have more loving relationships. Any benefits will be obvious in the way we interact with other peopleoids. I'll add, my opinion here has nothing to do with religion...I am actually one of those god-less heathens. |
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That is such a load for a belief. Some of the worst sluts attend church seeking forgiveness from god for being sluts! Also religion tries to sell people on Marriage. You do not need religion to find a wife/ mate/ husband, whatever. A marriage is meaningless unless the two getting married go into it in their hearts and heads. Religion push people into marriage and then try to hold them for life to it. No, religion only complicates a real relationship. it may float some people's boats but not all of us float our boats to religion. Awesome and articulate response Sir. I feel almost swayed by your reasoning. Hmmmmmmm. So you don't see any positive impact religion could have on marital relationships at all? Just asking..... The religious experience is different for everyone. It does offer moral guidance that other sources don't. Frankly a marriage is two people coming together and many religions would rather make two people who hate each other be forced to endure a lifetime of misery over their "Moral Ethics." Real Mating does not nor ever has required religion. In some cases it has a positive impact but more often than not marriages end badly becasue the church tries to impress rules and morals that conflict so strongly with human nature. I feel a church is the last place to find a mate! If church is all you two have in common the marriage is screwed before it ever begins. Many people will do anything to secure a steady supply of sex. Marriage as we traditionally know it is an utter failure. That is part of the reason why I never got married in the first place. I am holding out for the right woman. No just anyone will do. On top of that I have had women talk about marriage even before I was dating them and that ended the prospect of dating. I despise being rushed into anything especially the altar. Worst is that Churches depend on selling marriages. To make people pay for marriage is a farce! Besides, I want to have a Japanese style "Foxes Wedding" in the vein of Japanese Folk lore complete with me and my bride wearing fox costumes along with our entourage! I love a good costume party, folklore, and breaking with tradition and convention. A brief example of this can be seen in the movie Pom Pokko during the scene with the goblin parade. Come to think of it here it is thanks to youtube! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sACeNIi_ocY The Fox's wedding is still performed annually in Japan. |
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Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? I personally avoid bars and churches as I see them both as dens of iniquity.  I think the best place to meet a potential spouse is to do participate in something positive and constructive that you enjoy doing and then you'll find a partner who has similar interests. (assuming, of course, that you like to do positive and constructive things yourself) Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? For me personally, I prefer a spiritual minded person over a religious minded person (i.e. someone who see divinity in everything rather than in a book) However, for me romanticism is at the top of the list. And I'm not speaking about sexual romanticism, I'm speaking about poetic artistic romanticism. (i.e. the ability to see beauty in life and in everything we do) As long as a woman has that I really don't care whether she's spiritual or atheistic. I've known some very romantic atheists who see awesome wonder in life and stand in awe of the grandeur of the universe. So atheism itself is not a deterrent for me. I have no problem with an 'atheist' in general. However, if the atheists sees the world as mundane and is negative about life, then that's no fun. But there are religious people who view the world that way too. Especially religious people who have their eye on an "afterlife" and basically think that life on Earth sucks. That can be a very negative and draining view as well. The last thing I'd want would be a partner who is dogmatically religious and constantly pointing to a religious doctrine as an excuse to judge everything in terms of whether or not it is 'sinful'. From my point of view such a person simply has no ability to think for themselves and that definitely won't do as a partner for me. So positive spirituality or positive atheism is cool with me. The key is keeping it positive. That's really the bottom line. |
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BAHAHAHA.
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Bullchit!
Melody and Abra said it well. My good Catholic uncle is married to his 3rd wife. My parents have been married 37 yrs and mom is an atheist and dad is agnostic. |
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hmmmm..... lol....you guys are something else....lol So where's the best place to find a good spouse? You don't "find" a good spouse. You develop yourself as a well-rounded individual and complete yourself. At that point you will attract like-minded people (friends and lovers). When you are comfortable in your own skin, you have a better chance of meeting someone serendipitously rather being contrived. |
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I have no problem power sharing, as long as you don't mind a playful fight for control lol P.S. Marry me?! TB, Yes!!! I'll "allow" you to be the boss sometimes!  Let's get hitched! whoo hooo! 
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I have no problem power sharing, as long as you don't mind a playful fight for control lol P.S. Marry me?! TB, Yes!!! I'll "allow" you to be the boss sometimes! Let's get hitched! whoo hooo! Je t'aime, ma cherie! |
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I have no problem power sharing, as long as you don't mind a playful fight for control lol P.S. Marry me?! TB, Yes!!! I'll "allow" you to be the boss sometimes! Let's get hitched! whoo hooo! Je t'aime, ma cherie! Squeeee! 
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Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? I personally avoid bars and churches as I see them both as dens of iniquity. I think the best place to meet a potential spouse is to do participate in something positive and constructive that you enjoy doing and then you'll find a partner who has similar interests. (assuming, of course, that you like to do positive and constructive things yourself) Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? For me personally, I prefer a spiritual minded person over a religious minded person (i.e. someone who see divinity in everything rather than in a book) However, for me romanticism is at the top of the list. And I'm not speaking about sexual romanticism, I'm speaking about poetic artistic romanticism. (i.e. the ability to see beauty in life and in everything we do) As long as a woman has that I really don't care whether she's spiritual or atheistic. I've known some very romantic atheists who see awesome wonder in life and stand in awe of the grandeur of the universe. So atheism itself is not a deterrent for me. I have no problem with an 'atheist' in general. However, if the atheists sees the world as mundane and is negative about life, then that's no fun. But there are religious people who view the world that way too. Especially religious people who have their eye on an "afterlife" and basically think that life on Earth sucks. That can be a very negative and draining view as well. The last thing I'd want would be a partner who is dogmatically religious and constantly pointing to a religious doctrine as an excuse to judge everything in terms of whether or not it is 'sinful'. From my point of view such a person simply has no ability to think for themselves and that definitely won't do as a partner for me. So positive spirituality or positive atheism is cool with me. The key is keeping it positive. That's really the bottom line. Very very thought-provoking input. Thanks a lot You know something? I had an experience with a "religious wacko" of a wife who would see everything in terms of "god" this, "god" that. She would abandon me at home and drive off five states away to attend a "revival" despite my vocal and vehement protests. With my case, I understood Karl Marx's refrain: religion is the opiate of the people. There are so many "anointed crack heads" out there - enibriated by religion. |
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I have no problem power sharing, as long as you don't mind a playful fight for control lol P.S. Marry me?! TB, Yes!!! I'll "allow" you to be the boss sometimes! Let's get hitched! whoo hooo! Je t'aime, ma cherie! Squeeee! Vous avez ma couer, je te adore! |
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There is a popular belief that the best spouses are found in churches, not in bars. Do you agree? Do you also agree or disagree that a spouse who embraces religion/spirituality is probably a better omen for peace of mind and a successful home life compared to a "godless" one? Please share your thoughts. I think each of us is willing to accept a variety of differences within our partnerships. I also think each of us has certain prioities and if the main priorities are a match than the other differences, being lower in priority are merely a way for a couple to remain individuals. As Abra posted, he would be enjoy someone whose beliefs were spiritual without being confined to any dogma. I certainly don't want someone whose life is going to revolve around any particular belief system. However, just as Abra would like someone spiritual, I would like someone whose morals are based on a strong ethical code toward humanity and our planet & universe as a system of interconnectedness. After that, it would be a joy to have a partner who has their own identity, and a life beyond the partnership. It makes life and conversation more interesting that way. |
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