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Topic: DIVINITY OF CHRISTIAN MARRIAGE
Johnyjuan's photo
Sun 11/07/10 10:57 PM
Yeah I completely agree people make the word of God so difficult to understand. Meanwhile the word of God is so simple and so basic to understand but man makes it so hard ! Jesus spoke to simple people kings,prositutes,fisherman, and everyone understood his word, exept the pharisies lol

MyLastGroom's photo
Sun 11/07/10 10:59 PM

What do you want ??? You can either get God's advise or reject it simple as that it's a no brainer your a pastor don't make the word harder than it is


Sir, I did not invite you to this discussion. I am sharing views with anyone interested in the topic. You can opt out without unnecessarily attacking anyone, ok. Thank you

Johnyjuan's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:01 PM
Sir I am not attacking you im sorry you see my view of points offensive

MyLastGroom's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:03 PM








God doesn't join two people in that essence. We are to find someone we can love. "There's someone for everyone" is sort of a myth. There is if you wish to make it that way, but automatically it isn't that way. In marriage God merely recognizes the request to be joined with one another. He doesn't "instigate" it.


Great perspective! How about in societies or communities that neither believes in nor accept "God" as an authority. They equally marry - who does the recognizing thing you refer to - which kind of validates the choice?


My perspective it wouldn't hold much at all. For it wasn't sanctified by our father. It's by God's authority that we do become as one flesh to enjoy each other for eternity, so with it not being set out before our father I do not believe he would sanctify it.


You can look at it this way. In this world marriages are only considered marriages if it's through the court system, in America. So if two people were to go through the marriage ceremony and all but not present it before the government, they would not recognize it as a marriage and or sanctify it as a marriage if you will.


Uhmmm.....not really, most states recognize traditional marriages in which lovers just live together and produce kids...


Yes but for the state to recognize it there has to be a marriage licence between the two. Which is where the court comes in.

...no Sir. In traditional marriage states, the elements are totally separate from that of civil marriages. No license whatsoever is required - some require only that the couple live together for specified number of years and that friends and family recognize them as couple.Thats it.


Ok I was not aware of that. Anyhow, if the marriage isn't presented before our father done by a preacher then how would it be sanctified by our father? That marriage of which we're speaking of is only deemed married because of living together for a certain length of time, it's not presented before the father.


Ok, how about where there are no preachers or priests? Is the father not universal in authority and omnipresent in scope? I'm wondering if you believe that moslem, hindu, buddhist marriages are not divine?

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:04 PM






God doesn't join two people in that essence. We are to find someone we can love. "There's someone for everyone" is sort of a myth. There is if you wish to make it that way, but automatically it isn't that way. In marriage God merely recognizes the request to be joined with one another. He doesn't "instigate" it.


Great perspective! How about in societies or communities that neither believes in nor accept "God" as an authority. They equally marry - who does the recognizing thing you refer to - which kind of validates the choice?


My perspective it wouldn't hold much at all. For it wasn't sanctified by our father. It's by God's authority that we do become as one flesh to enjoy each other for eternity, so with it not being set out before our father I do not believe he would sanctify it.

...so what happens when the marriage, supposedly "sanctified by the father" bitterly dissolves? How do we then define the ascribed sanctification? Presumably, whatever the Lord does shall be permanent. When impermanence results, whose act/choice is impugned?


There technically isn't anything as a "divorce". The bible specifically says let no man put asunder what the father has joined. But, if one of the spouses cheats on the other, the marriage becomes obsolete.

The only way to be completely absolved from the marriage is for one of the spouses to have passed away on earth.

Marriages will ONLY work if both spouses push it to work. It working is through the actions the two takes towards each other through their life together. The father doesn't take our free will away therefore does not stop such from happening even though he's sanctified the marriage.


Well well, here I beg to differ with you a bit. There is such a thing as "divorce" - ideally and really. It is as old as the human race and has been practiced in traditional and theocratic societies before ever Abraham was born.
Yes, the Bible forbids divorce in cases of "what GOD JOINED TOGETHER" so the question is, how many marriages can confidently claim that GOD PUT them together. Being put together by God is different from being put together by a priest or pastor, etc. God sees the end from the begining, so if he puts together something he already foresaw breaking apart, then that raises question as to the wisdom. But knowing that it is impossible to overturn God's purpose, I am of the view that if God himself put a marriage together, no matter what, it will succeed.

But then, the world is not a theocracy. My issue is that the rate of divorce is highest among those who readily make the claim that God put them together to start with.....that's the issue.


It's not about being put together by our father. Our father "sanctifies" the marriage and or "recognizes" the marriage. Marriage is there so that we can spend eternity with each other. It's not just about joining together on this earth.

We have to search for this person ourselves. Again God doesn't assemble the two people. It's not like God has us go out on a blind date with each other and we either marry to join together for eternity or loose one another, no it's not that way.

We have to sear and find the person we can be with for eternity ourselves. And God will sanctify the marriage, recognize the marriage so that we may remain married in heaven.

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:05 PM









God doesn't join two people in that essence. We are to find someone we can love. "There's someone for everyone" is sort of a myth. There is if you wish to make it that way, but automatically it isn't that way. In marriage God merely recognizes the request to be joined with one another. He doesn't "instigate" it.


Great perspective! How about in societies or communities that neither believes in nor accept "God" as an authority. They equally marry - who does the recognizing thing you refer to - which kind of validates the choice?


My perspective it wouldn't hold much at all. For it wasn't sanctified by our father. It's by God's authority that we do become as one flesh to enjoy each other for eternity, so with it not being set out before our father I do not believe he would sanctify it.


You can look at it this way. In this world marriages are only considered marriages if it's through the court system, in America. So if two people were to go through the marriage ceremony and all but not present it before the government, they would not recognize it as a marriage and or sanctify it as a marriage if you will.


Uhmmm.....not really, most states recognize traditional marriages in which lovers just live together and produce kids...


Yes but for the state to recognize it there has to be a marriage licence between the two. Which is where the court comes in.

...no Sir. In traditional marriage states, the elements are totally separate from that of civil marriages. No license whatsoever is required - some require only that the couple live together for specified number of years and that friends and family recognize them as couple.Thats it.


Ok I was not aware of that. Anyhow, if the marriage isn't presented before our father done by a preacher then how would it be sanctified by our father? That marriage of which we're speaking of is only deemed married because of living together for a certain length of time, it's not presented before the father.


Ok, how about where there are no preachers or priests? Is the father not universal in authority and omnipresent in scope? I'm wondering if you believe that moslem, hindu, buddhist marriages are not divine?


If they are done before the one and only father, then yes they are sanctified.

MyLastGroom's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:06 PM

Sir I am not attacking you im sorry you see my view of points offensive


Its ok Sir, let's focus on the topic and whatever opinion you wish to share. I am very much interested in what everyone has to say - I'm sory too. Not offended at all.

MyLastGroom's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:07 PM










God doesn't join two people in that essence. We are to find someone we can love. "There's someone for everyone" is sort of a myth. There is if you wish to make it that way, but automatically it isn't that way. In marriage God merely recognizes the request to be joined with one another. He doesn't "instigate" it.


Great perspective! How about in societies or communities that neither believes in nor accept "God" as an authority. They equally marry - who does the recognizing thing you refer to - which kind of validates the choice?


My perspective it wouldn't hold much at all. For it wasn't sanctified by our father. It's by God's authority that we do become as one flesh to enjoy each other for eternity, so with it not being set out before our father I do not believe he would sanctify it.


You can look at it this way. In this world marriages are only considered marriages if it's through the court system, in America. So if two people were to go through the marriage ceremony and all but not present it before the government, they would not recognize it as a marriage and or sanctify it as a marriage if you will.


Uhmmm.....not really, most states recognize traditional marriages in which lovers just live together and produce kids...


Yes but for the state to recognize it there has to be a marriage licence between the two. Which is where the court comes in.

...no Sir. In traditional marriage states, the elements are totally separate from that of civil marriages. No license whatsoever is required - some require only that the couple live together for specified number of years and that friends and family recognize them as couple.Thats it.


Ok I was not aware of that. Anyhow, if the marriage isn't presented before our father done by a preacher then how would it be sanctified by our father? That marriage of which we're speaking of is only deemed married because of living together for a certain length of time, it's not presented before the father.


Ok, how about where there are no preachers or priests? Is the father not universal in authority and omnipresent in scope? I'm wondering if you believe that moslem, hindu, buddhist marriages are not divine?


If they are done before the one and only father, then yes they are sanctified.

Awesome! Thanks for sharing intelligently on this topic, Sir.

MyLastGroom's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:09 PM







God doesn't join two people in that essence. We are to find someone we can love. "There's someone for everyone" is sort of a myth. There is if you wish to make it that way, but automatically it isn't that way. In marriage God merely recognizes the request to be joined with one another. He doesn't "instigate" it.


Great perspective! How about in societies or communities that neither believes in nor accept "God" as an authority. They equally marry - who does the recognizing thing you refer to - which kind of validates the choice?


My perspective it wouldn't hold much at all. For it wasn't sanctified by our father. It's by God's authority that we do become as one flesh to enjoy each other for eternity, so with it not being set out before our father I do not believe he would sanctify it.

...so what happens when the marriage, supposedly "sanctified by the father" bitterly dissolves? How do we then define the ascribed sanctification? Presumably, whatever the Lord does shall be permanent. When impermanence results, whose act/choice is impugned?


There technically isn't anything as a "divorce". The bible specifically says let no man put asunder what the father has joined. But, if one of the spouses cheats on the other, the marriage becomes obsolete.

The only way to be completely absolved from the marriage is for one of the spouses to have passed away on earth.

Marriages will ONLY work if both spouses push it to work. It working is through the actions the two takes towards each other through their life together. The father doesn't take our free will away therefore does not stop such from happening even though he's sanctified the marriage.


Well well, here I beg to differ with you a bit. There is such a thing as "divorce" - ideally and really. It is as old as the human race and has been practiced in traditional and theocratic societies before ever Abraham was born.
Yes, the Bible forbids divorce in cases of "what GOD JOINED TOGETHER" so the question is, how many marriages can confidently claim that GOD PUT them together. Being put together by God is different from being put together by a priest or pastor, etc. God sees the end from the begining, so if he puts together something he already foresaw breaking apart, then that raises question as to the wisdom. But knowing that it is impossible to overturn God's purpose, I am of the view that if God himself put a marriage together, no matter what, it will succeed.

But then, the world is not a theocracy. My issue is that the rate of divorce is highest among those who readily make the claim that God put them together to start with.....that's the issue.


It's not about being put together by our father. Our father "sanctifies" the marriage and or "recognizes" the marriage. Marriage is there so that we can spend eternity with each other. It's not just about joining together on this earth.

We have to search for this person ourselves. Again God doesn't assemble the two people. It's not like God has us go out on a blind date with each other and we either marry to join together for eternity or loose one another, no it's not that way.

We have to sear and find the person we can be with for eternity ourselves. And God will sanctify the marriage, recognize the marriage so that we may remain married in heaven.


oops Jesus said that in heaven there's no marriages for we shall be like angels (sexless) - what do you mean?

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:13 PM








God doesn't join two people in that essence. We are to find someone we can love. "There's someone for everyone" is sort of a myth. There is if you wish to make it that way, but automatically it isn't that way. In marriage God merely recognizes the request to be joined with one another. He doesn't "instigate" it.


Great perspective! How about in societies or communities that neither believes in nor accept "God" as an authority. They equally marry - who does the recognizing thing you refer to - which kind of validates the choice?


My perspective it wouldn't hold much at all. For it wasn't sanctified by our father. It's by God's authority that we do become as one flesh to enjoy each other for eternity, so with it not being set out before our father I do not believe he would sanctify it.

...so what happens when the marriage, supposedly "sanctified by the father" bitterly dissolves? How do we then define the ascribed sanctification? Presumably, whatever the Lord does shall be permanent. When impermanence results, whose act/choice is impugned?


There technically isn't anything as a "divorce". The bible specifically says let no man put asunder what the father has joined. But, if one of the spouses cheats on the other, the marriage becomes obsolete.

The only way to be completely absolved from the marriage is for one of the spouses to have passed away on earth.

Marriages will ONLY work if both spouses push it to work. It working is through the actions the two takes towards each other through their life together. The father doesn't take our free will away therefore does not stop such from happening even though he's sanctified the marriage.


Well well, here I beg to differ with you a bit. There is such a thing as "divorce" - ideally and really. It is as old as the human race and has been practiced in traditional and theocratic societies before ever Abraham was born.
Yes, the Bible forbids divorce in cases of "what GOD JOINED TOGETHER" so the question is, how many marriages can confidently claim that GOD PUT them together. Being put together by God is different from being put together by a priest or pastor, etc. God sees the end from the begining, so if he puts together something he already foresaw breaking apart, then that raises question as to the wisdom. But knowing that it is impossible to overturn God's purpose, I am of the view that if God himself put a marriage together, no matter what, it will succeed.

But then, the world is not a theocracy. My issue is that the rate of divorce is highest among those who readily make the claim that God put them together to start with.....that's the issue.


It's not about being put together by our father. Our father "sanctifies" the marriage and or "recognizes" the marriage. Marriage is there so that we can spend eternity with each other. It's not just about joining together on this earth.

We have to search for this person ourselves. Again God doesn't assemble the two people. It's not like God has us go out on a blind date with each other and we either marry to join together for eternity or loose one another, no it's not that way.

We have to sear and find the person we can be with for eternity ourselves. And God will sanctify the marriage, recognize the marriage so that we may remain married in heaven.


oops Jesus said that in heaven there's no marriages for we shall be like angels (sexless) - what do you mean?


Wow, thank you friend. I had not put all this together. That would explain why it is said "till death do us part". Marriage is only here on earth, again I thank you my friend for asking these questions.

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:16 PM









God doesn't join two people in that essence. We are to find someone we can love. "There's someone for everyone" is sort of a myth. There is if you wish to make it that way, but automatically it isn't that way. In marriage God merely recognizes the request to be joined with one another. He doesn't "instigate" it.


Great perspective! How about in societies or communities that neither believes in nor accept "God" as an authority. They equally marry - who does the recognizing thing you refer to - which kind of validates the choice?


My perspective it wouldn't hold much at all. For it wasn't sanctified by our father. It's by God's authority that we do become as one flesh to enjoy each other for eternity, so with it not being set out before our father I do not believe he would sanctify it.

...so what happens when the marriage, supposedly "sanctified by the father" bitterly dissolves? How do we then define the ascribed sanctification? Presumably, whatever the Lord does shall be permanent. When impermanence results, whose act/choice is impugned?


There technically isn't anything as a "divorce". The bible specifically says let no man put asunder what the father has joined. But, if one of the spouses cheats on the other, the marriage becomes obsolete.

The only way to be completely absolved from the marriage is for one of the spouses to have passed away on earth.

Marriages will ONLY work if both spouses push it to work. It working is through the actions the two takes towards each other through their life together. The father doesn't take our free will away therefore does not stop such from happening even though he's sanctified the marriage.


Well well, here I beg to differ with you a bit. There is such a thing as "divorce" - ideally and really. It is as old as the human race and has been practiced in traditional and theocratic societies before ever Abraham was born.
Yes, the Bible forbids divorce in cases of "what GOD JOINED TOGETHER" so the question is, how many marriages can confidently claim that GOD PUT them together. Being put together by God is different from being put together by a priest or pastor, etc. God sees the end from the begining, so if he puts together something he already foresaw breaking apart, then that raises question as to the wisdom. But knowing that it is impossible to overturn God's purpose, I am of the view that if God himself put a marriage together, no matter what, it will succeed.

But then, the world is not a theocracy. My issue is that the rate of divorce is highest among those who readily make the claim that God put them together to start with.....that's the issue.


It's not about being put together by our father. Our father "sanctifies" the marriage and or "recognizes" the marriage. Marriage is there so that we can spend eternity with each other. It's not just about joining together on this earth.

We have to search for this person ourselves. Again God doesn't assemble the two people. It's not like God has us go out on a blind date with each other and we either marry to join together for eternity or loose one another, no it's not that way.

We have to sear and find the person we can be with for eternity ourselves. And God will sanctify the marriage, recognize the marriage so that we may remain married in heaven.


oops Jesus said that in heaven there's no marriages for we shall be like angels (sexless) - what do you mean?


Wow, thank you friend. I had not put all this together. That would explain why it is said "till death do us part". Marriage is only here on earth, again I thank you my friend for asking these questions.


I find this very interesting to have found this out tonight. I was just pondering on if our spouse passes away and we can remarry, who then we would be married to in heaven. But this clarifies that question for me. We would be married to neither, for in heaven there is no marriage.

MyLastGroom's photo
Sun 11/07/10 11:19 PM










God doesn't join two people in that essence. We are to find someone we can love. "There's someone for everyone" is sort of a myth. There is if you wish to make it that way, but automatically it isn't that way. In marriage God merely recognizes the request to be joined with one another. He doesn't "instigate" it.


Great perspective! How about in societies or communities that neither believes in nor accept "God" as an authority. They equally marry - who does the recognizing thing you refer to - which kind of validates the choice?


My perspective it wouldn't hold much at all. For it wasn't sanctified by our father. It's by God's authority that we do become as one flesh to enjoy each other for eternity, so with it not being set out before our father I do not believe he would sanctify it.

...so what happens when the marriage, supposedly "sanctified by the father" bitterly dissolves? How do we then define the ascribed sanctification? Presumably, whatever the Lord does shall be permanent. When impermanence results, whose act/choice is impugned?


There technically isn't anything as a "divorce". The bible specifically says let no man put asunder what the father has joined. But, if one of the spouses cheats on the other, the marriage becomes obsolete.

The only way to be completely absolved from the marriage is for one of the spouses to have passed away on earth.

Marriages will ONLY work if both spouses push it to work. It working is through the actions the two takes towards each other through their life together. The father doesn't take our free will away therefore does not stop such from happening even though he's sanctified the marriage.


Well well, here I beg to differ with you a bit. There is such a thing as "divorce" - ideally and really. It is as old as the human race and has been practiced in traditional and theocratic societies before ever Abraham was born.
Yes, the Bible forbids divorce in cases of "what GOD JOINED TOGETHER" so the question is, how many marriages can confidently claim that GOD PUT them together. Being put together by God is different from being put together by a priest or pastor, etc. God sees the end from the begining, so if he puts together something he already foresaw breaking apart, then that raises question as to the wisdom. But knowing that it is impossible to overturn God's purpose, I am of the view that if God himself put a marriage together, no matter what, it will succeed.

But then, the world is not a theocracy. My issue is that the rate of divorce is highest among those who readily make the claim that God put them together to start with.....that's the issue.


It's not about being put together by our father. Our father "sanctifies" the marriage and or "recognizes" the marriage. Marriage is there so that we can spend eternity with each other. It's not just about joining together on this earth.

We have to search for this person ourselves. Again God doesn't assemble the two people. It's not like God has us go out on a blind date with each other and we either marry to join together for eternity or loose one another, no it's not that way.

We have to sear and find the person we can be with for eternity ourselves. And God will sanctify the marriage, recognize the marriage so that we may remain married in heaven.


oops Jesus said that in heaven there's no marriages for we shall be like angels (sexless) - what do you mean?


Wow, thank you friend. I had not put all this together. That would explain why it is said "till death do us part". Marriage is only here on earth, again I thank you my friend for asking these questions.


I find this very interesting to have found this out tonight. I was just pondering on if our spouse passes away and we can remarry, who then we would be married to in heaven. But this clarifies that question for me. We would be married to neither, for in heaven there is no marriage.


Thanks to you too, Sir. I enjoyed every bit of your contributions and have learned a lot from you too.

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Mon 11/08/10 12:27 AM




I agree God doesn't find us a wife but he does recommend us what type of woman we should marry. He shows us what fruits this woman should have in proverbs. It's up to us to make our mind and choose which one we want but God tells us what woman we should look for but at the end we have the power to choose


No contest about the proverbial Proverbs 31 "Virtuous Woman" which no woman - living or dead - ever attained or could attain. Eve, God's prototype woman never measured up right from inception.

If God prescribes the standard of woman to choose, but doesn't directly make the choice, could it be said that we have "controlled free will" as opposed to absolute free will in this matter?


No we have absolute free will. Just we have to face the consequences for our decisions. And with every action there is a reaction. Just because there are rules set out before something does not take our free will away. Free will boils down to being able to be obedient or not. And again we'll have to face the consequences of our actions if disobedient choices are made.


Good take. We must take direct responsibility for our choices instead of responding like Adam : the wife YOU gave me. I think your reasoning is based on a presumption that the entire human race have biblical rules in every culture. Unfortunately this is obviously not the case. So let's broaden the reasoning to encompass the "unbelievers" ....if you don't mind.


My take on that is that Adam tried to put the blame on God for his partaking of the "forbidden" fruit. He tried to put the blame on others instead of taking responsibility for his own actions.

As for "biblical rules", is it not written that God instilled his commandments in the hearts of all men?

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Mon 11/08/10 12:34 AM










God doesn't join two people in that essence. We are to find someone we can love. "There's someone for everyone" is sort of a myth. There is if you wish to make it that way, but automatically it isn't that way. In marriage God merely recognizes the request to be joined with one another. He doesn't "instigate" it.


Great perspective! How about in societies or communities that neither believes in nor accept "God" as an authority. They equally marry - who does the recognizing thing you refer to - which kind of validates the choice?


My perspective it wouldn't hold much at all. For it wasn't sanctified by our father. It's by God's authority that we do become as one flesh to enjoy each other for eternity, so with it not being set out before our father I do not believe he would sanctify it.

...so what happens when the marriage, supposedly "sanctified by the father" bitterly dissolves? How do we then define the ascribed sanctification? Presumably, whatever the Lord does shall be permanent. When impermanence results, whose act/choice is impugned?


There technically isn't anything as a "divorce". The bible specifically says let no man put asunder what the father has joined. But, if one of the spouses cheats on the other, the marriage becomes obsolete.

The only way to be completely absolved from the marriage is for one of the spouses to have passed away on earth.

Marriages will ONLY work if both spouses push it to work. It working is through the actions the two takes towards each other through their life together. The father doesn't take our free will away therefore does not stop such from happening even though he's sanctified the marriage.


Well well, here I beg to differ with you a bit. There is such a thing as "divorce" - ideally and really. It is as old as the human race and has been practiced in traditional and theocratic societies before ever Abraham was born.
Yes, the Bible forbids divorce in cases of "what GOD JOINED TOGETHER" so the question is, how many marriages can confidently claim that GOD PUT them together. Being put together by God is different from being put together by a priest or pastor, etc. God sees the end from the begining, so if he puts together something he already foresaw breaking apart, then that raises question as to the wisdom. But knowing that it is impossible to overturn God's purpose, I am of the view that if God himself put a marriage together, no matter what, it will succeed.

But then, the world is not a theocracy. My issue is that the rate of divorce is highest among those who readily make the claim that God put them together to start with.....that's the issue.


It's not about being put together by our father. Our father "sanctifies" the marriage and or "recognizes" the marriage. Marriage is there so that we can spend eternity with each other. It's not just about joining together on this earth.

We have to search for this person ourselves. Again God doesn't assemble the two people. It's not like God has us go out on a blind date with each other and we either marry to join together for eternity or loose one another, no it's not that way.

We have to sear and find the person we can be with for eternity ourselves. And God will sanctify the marriage, recognize the marriage so that we may remain married in heaven.


oops Jesus said that in heaven there's no marriages for we shall be like angels (sexless) - what do you mean?


Wow, thank you friend. I had not put all this together. That would explain why it is said "till death do us part". Marriage is only here on earth, again I thank you my friend for asking these questions.


I find this very interesting to have found this out tonight. I was just pondering on if our spouse passes away and we can remarry, who then we would be married to in heaven. But this clarifies that question for me. We would be married to neither, for in heaven there is no marriage.


Cowboy, we have spoken about this about 2 months ago, do you remember?

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Mon 11/08/10 06:56 AM











God doesn't join two people in that essence. We are to find someone we can love. "There's someone for everyone" is sort of a myth. There is if you wish to make it that way, but automatically it isn't that way. In marriage God merely recognizes the request to be joined with one another. He doesn't "instigate" it.


Great perspective! How about in societies or communities that neither believes in nor accept "God" as an authority. They equally marry - who does the recognizing thing you refer to - which kind of validates the choice?


My perspective it wouldn't hold much at all. For it wasn't sanctified by our father. It's by God's authority that we do become as one flesh to enjoy each other for eternity, so with it not being set out before our father I do not believe he would sanctify it.

...so what happens when the marriage, supposedly "sanctified by the father" bitterly dissolves? How do we then define the ascribed sanctification? Presumably, whatever the Lord does shall be permanent. When impermanence results, whose act/choice is impugned?


There technically isn't anything as a "divorce". The bible specifically says let no man put asunder what the father has joined. But, if one of the spouses cheats on the other, the marriage becomes obsolete.

The only way to be completely absolved from the marriage is for one of the spouses to have passed away on earth.

Marriages will ONLY work if both spouses push it to work. It working is through the actions the two takes towards each other through their life together. The father doesn't take our free will away therefore does not stop such from happening even though he's sanctified the marriage.


Well well, here I beg to differ with you a bit. There is such a thing as "divorce" - ideally and really. It is as old as the human race and has been practiced in traditional and theocratic societies before ever Abraham was born.
Yes, the Bible forbids divorce in cases of "what GOD JOINED TOGETHER" so the question is, how many marriages can confidently claim that GOD PUT them together. Being put together by God is different from being put together by a priest or pastor, etc. God sees the end from the begining, so if he puts together something he already foresaw breaking apart, then that raises question as to the wisdom. But knowing that it is impossible to overturn God's purpose, I am of the view that if God himself put a marriage together, no matter what, it will succeed.

But then, the world is not a theocracy. My issue is that the rate of divorce is highest among those who readily make the claim that God put them together to start with.....that's the issue.


It's not about being put together by our father. Our father "sanctifies" the marriage and or "recognizes" the marriage. Marriage is there so that we can spend eternity with each other. It's not just about joining together on this earth.

We have to search for this person ourselves. Again God doesn't assemble the two people. It's not like God has us go out on a blind date with each other and we either marry to join together for eternity or loose one another, no it's not that way.

We have to sear and find the person we can be with for eternity ourselves. And God will sanctify the marriage, recognize the marriage so that we may remain married in heaven.


oops Jesus said that in heaven there's no marriages for we shall be like angels (sexless) - what do you mean?


Wow, thank you friend. I had not put all this together. That would explain why it is said "till death do us part". Marriage is only here on earth, again I thank you my friend for asking these questions.


I find this very interesting to have found this out tonight. I was just pondering on if our spouse passes away and we can remarry, who then we would be married to in heaven. But this clarifies that question for me. We would be married to neither, for in heaven there is no marriage.


Cowboy, we have spoken about this about 2 months ago, do you remember?


Yeah it dawned on me after a while. Because of my injuries if something is not brought to my attention for a while it tends to quite possibly be forgotten for the time being any ways till I find something that reminds me of it. It's a rough demon I have to deal with :/

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