It was the rapid rise in fuel and food prices that started the downhill ride and the stagnation of wages. What do republicans do when in power I ask in my most elititst tone besides cut social programs that have a direct influence on peoples quality of life? In my life I cannot ever recall the average americans standerd of liveing ever going up under a republican. Fox news has convinced the chickens to vote for Colonel Sanders yet again. Good luck with that. I realy take pity on many of the posters from the right. You see my life has improved two fold under Obama I understand I am the exception of course. I totaly wish all of you could enjoy the same lifestyle I do. I fear what is going to happen once the rethuglicans begin cutting food stamps and such, the poor will be driven to crime and it wont be safe on the streets. Prisons will once again be the the "Growth Industry".

talking to YOU people is like clapping without hands. You sir, bore me! good day.

Its ok if you "cut and run" used to that by now. Of all the things the right has to be angry about they propose cutting taxes and less regulation, well didnt we try that allready and it failed middle america to such an extent that one in seven americans lives below the poverty line. MOre than 20% of all children are poor. 44 million WORKING americans are poor. Our healthcare is worse our homes worth less our kids cant afford collage, my god the list goes on and on..... well good luck with that tax cut. I think most americans are going to get exactly what they deserve.

Oh and btw, the war in Iraq was justified the day Saddam and his top oeople were sentanced to death by a jury of Iraquis for war crimes, crimes against humanity and other sick acts.

Not to mention the mass graves were finding to this day.

If you cared to inform yourself on Human rights, after all you are useing that claim, I would suggest you go to amnesty internationsl rankings of human rights abusers. You will find that China and Saudia Arabia are ranked worse than Iraq. JUst an FYI Saidi Arabia and China are two of our closest Uber Allies. To any reasonable person one would think that Iraq got the bad press and our Uber Allies get the free pass. Your arguments are pathetic and I would be ashamed to pretend to have knowledge on the subject.

For sure Sadam was demonised in order to sell the war to the ignorant american people. A honest country would talk about all human rights abusers and not just the ones we wish to invade. Just another example of our pathetic media at work.



The media are a pitiful lot. They don't give us any history, they don't give us any analysis, they don't tell us anything. They don't raise the most basic questions: Who has the most weapons of mass destruction in the world by far? Who has used weapons of mass destruction more than any other nation? Who has killed more people in this world with weapons of mass destruction than any other nation? The answer: the United States."
Howard Zinn

Ummm several NATO countries were there on our side as well as non NATO countries.

Australia, Poland, Denmark, UK, Italy, Georgia, Ukraine, Netherlands, Spain, Turkey, Romania, El Salvador, Estonia, Bulgeria, Moldovia, Albania, Czech Republic, South Korea, Japan, Tonga, Azerbaijan, Singapore, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Latvia, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Mongolia, Norway, Hungary, Portugal, New Zealand, Thailand, Philippines, Honduras, Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, Iceland.

when did china or saudi arabia invade another nation with the attempt to take over the worlds oil supply?

No the US stands alone in that regard.

the 30 nations that were stated as providing support for the U.S.-led war in Iraq, only 5 of them provided any military troops in the effort during the invasion [2]:

Albania: 70

Australia: 2000

Poland: 200

Romania: 278

UK: 45,000
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Coalition_of_the_willing


Realy its no surprise at all to me that you lack any facts or knowledge to back you up.

Those numbers were twords the end of the invasion. Every country I listed sent troops and quite a few at that.

Only in your imagination. Feel free to source it. again I am not suprised at how ill informed most of america is.

no, Sadam and Iraq... when did the US try to take over the worlds oil supply smart guy?

There were unresolved issues with Kuwait it actualy was part of Iraq at one time. But here you will find a little more insight. The facts are not in dispute.

7. During the Iran-Iraq war, the al-Sabah family gave some $17 billion to Iraq. It saw the Iranian Shi'a revolution as a threat to itself, and so financed a long-standing Arab-Persian (Iranian) conflict. But it also had established farms and settlements over the Iraqi border. Most important, the al-Sabah family was also drilling in the Rumailah oil field. The Rumailah oil field is 95 percent in Iraq, but the al-Sabah family brought in the most sophisticated American oil-drilling technology to "slant drill" in its 5 percent of Rumailah while the Iraqis were unable to drill during the war (some of my Arabist friends were fairly sure there was an agreement about this: oil for financial backing). It sold that oil, at below OPEC prices, to Japan and the US (Kuwait has always played this role: increasing its sale of oil to the importers in times of crisis). The al-Sabah family by now was unimaginably rich, with an estimated wealth of some 90 billion dollars. They had invested about 50 billion dollars in the stocks of US companies.

8. After the Iran-Iraq war, Hussein was increasingly isolated, politically and economically. He was some 60 billion dollars in debt from the war, and the West had cut off his credits after he had a British reporter executed as a spy. The West was also concerned that its overall strategy would be upset (see par. #5 above), since Iraq now had an army second in power only to Israel in the Middle East.

9. Meanwhile, the al-Sabah family continued to slant-drill, and to sell to the West at below OPEC prices, despite Hussein's actions in the Arab League and protests to OPEC. It continued to deny him access to the Gulf. By now, Hussein was requesting the use of the unpopulated Bubiyan and Warba islands, to avoid having to use Basra on the Shatt-al-Arab, since he shared that waterway to the Gulf with Iran. Finally, the al-Sabah family declared that the $17 billion it had given Hussein was not a gift (or an exchange for the Rumailah oil, see par. #7), but a loan which must be repaid.[4]
read more at http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/blog/harak.html

i don't know... i do know that he wanted to have all the arabs unite so he could control the oil... and NONE wanted anything to do with it, so he invaded Kuwait...

Bottom line, Saddam and his top people were tried, convicted and executed by fellow Iraqui's for haneous crimes. That proved our justification right there. END OF STORY.

Would you be talking about the US puppet government and the kangaroo court? I would suggest that Saddam had more reasones to invade kuwait than we did to invade Iraq. But one would have to look at it objectivly.