Topic: This is progress...
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Mon 11/01/10 12:14 PM
A former Marxist guerrilla who was tortured and imprisoned during Brazil's long dictatorship was elected Sunday as the first female president of Latin America's biggest nation, a country in the midst of a rapid economic and political rise...click on the link to read and learn how socialism and capitalism can actually work hand in hand...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-10-31-brazil-elections_N.htm?csp=34news&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+usatoday-NewsTopStories+(News+-+Top+Stories)

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Mon 11/01/10 02:21 PM

A former Marxist guerrilla who was tortured and imprisoned during Brazil's long dictatorship was elected Sunday as the first female president of Latin America's biggest nation, a country in the midst of a rapid economic and political rise...click on the link to read and learn how socialism and capitalism can actually work hand in hand...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-10-31-brazil-elections_N.htm?csp=34news&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+usatoday-NewsTopStories+(News+-+Top+Stories)
Interesting contrast that with this country were we are trying to turn back to the ninteenth century.

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Mon 11/01/10 02:32 PM
Yup!
Brazil is a country to use as an example for how to deal with your people.

Police clash with crowd during the forced eviction of 800 families at the Olga Benário encampment in São Paulo, Brazil, 24 August 2009.

Wonder how our Gov. will handle forced evictions of Homeless camps??

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Mon 11/01/10 04:41 PM
Edited by Bestinshow on Mon 11/01/10 04:48 PM

Yup!
Brazil is a country to use as an example for how to deal with your people.

Police clash with crowd during the forced eviction of 800 families at the Olga Benário encampment in São Paulo, Brazil, 24 August 2009.

Wonder how our Gov. will handle forced evictions of Homeless camps??


Been there done that.....
Towards the end of 1931, infrequent rallies, and even riots, began to occur throughout the nation. Frustration and fear permeated the country. WWI Veterans began to see their wartime bonus pay as the only way to keep their families from starving to death. Representative John Wright Patman, of Texas, penned a bill calling for the early release of the bonus pay. In May of 1932 300 Veterans, organized by Walter W. Walters, set out from Oregon to Washington DC to lobby for the bill. Many Veterans joined them as they traveled. They called themselves the Bonus Expeditionary Force.

Army Chief of Staff Douglas MacArthur was concerned that the group was a communist attempt to undermine the government. In actuality, it was merely hungry veterans, many of them accompanied by their families.

As these were military families order was easily maintained. Walters organized them in camps. He also organized a military police force of 300 men, to keep peace within his “ranks” and to keep the communists out.

In order to keep peace in his district, chief of police Pelham D. Glassford, a WWI veteran himself, offered the group four abandoned buildings on Pennsylvania Avenue. The buildings would only be available until October, however, as they were scheduled for demolition. Despite the use of the building the growing number of veterans, approximately 22,000, needed more space. “Hoovervilles” were set up throughout the city including on Washington Mall. Homes were built out of tin cans or crates; many decorated with American flags.

The residents of Washington were sympathetic to the Veterans; baker’s, meat distributors and others, donated food for the Bonus Army, as they were know. The area’s doctor’s and dentist’s provided care for all.

The House of Representatives passed Patman’s veteran’s bill on June 15, 1932. However, the bill was defeated in the Senate on June 17. The Veterans did not riot. They simply sang “America the Beautiful” on the Capitol steps and returned to their “homes” even more determined to stay until the help they felt they deserved was delivered.

President Herbert Hoover was uncomfortable with the attention the veterans were drawing to his administration and city officials worried about riots. Glassford was ordered to evict the veterans by July 28. Glassford persuaded some veterans to leave the city but he would not use force against the national heroes. Thus, the President ordered General Douglas MacArthur to clear the area, immediately. MacArthur gathered cavalry, infantry, a machine gun squadron, and tanks and proceeded up Pennsylvania Avenue. MacArthur was joined by Maj. Dwight D. Eisenhower and George S. Patton Jr. The cavalry advanced with swords drawn. The militia destroyed the make shift homes of the veterans, often with fire. The veterans were driven across the bridge to the opposite side of the Anacostia River, where another encampment was destroyed by fire. No one was certain how that fire started.

The Veterans bill was finally passed in 1936. The bill required an override of a Presidential veto. This time the President was Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
http://www.militaryhistorywiki.org/world-war-two/chief-of-staff-douglas-macarthur/
Take note the photo was 2009 and the new president was involved in the oppostion to the US backed dictatorship

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Mon 11/01/10 04:45 PM
Obama's gonna LOVE her. love

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Mon 11/01/10 04:53 PM
does Brazil have poverty? without a doubt..there is a HUGE chasm between the haves and have not's... middle class doesn't exist outside the USA (everywhere else its known as Working Class)...take a good look at global economics (started by US foreign investment policies..NAFTA, et al...) you guys are not far from the scenario posted by "willing2"...stop fooling yourselves people...

the working class has got to organize, stop listening to the BS propaganda designed to keep you divided while the uppper class wreaks the benefits of your demise....


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Mon 11/01/10 04:59 PM

does Brazil have poverty? without a doubt..there is a HUGE chasm between the haves and have not's... middle class doesn't exist outside the USA (everywhere else its known as Working Class)...take a good look at global economics (started by US foreign investment policies..NAFTA, et al...) you guys are not far from the scenario posted by "willing2"...stop fooling yourselves people...

the working class has got to organize, stop listening to the BS propaganda designed to keep you divided while the uppper class wreaks the benefits of your demise....



I agree.
Right now, cities are chasing homeless out of homeless camps and I can see an end to UI, welfare, extensions.
Not all, but, some hell will break loose.

If the Repubs get control, that would be a good time to dump extensions and blame it on them. A game both parties been playin'.

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Mon 11/01/10 05:01 PM

does Brazil have poverty? without a doubt..there is a HUGE chasm between the haves and have not's... middle class doesn't exist outside the USA (everywhere else its known as Working Class)...take a good look at global economics (started by US foreign investment policies..NAFTA, et al...) you guys are not far from the scenario posted by "willing2"...stop fooling yourselves people...

the working class has got to organize, stop listening to the BS propaganda designed to keep you divided while the uppper class wreaks the benefits of your demise....


working class people in this country actualy enable their own downfall. One only need to view some of these boards and see how they bash the only institutions that will try to help them.

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Mon 11/01/10 05:04 PM


does Brazil have poverty? without a doubt..there is a HUGE chasm between the haves and have not's... middle class doesn't exist outside the USA (everywhere else its known as Working Class)...take a good look at global economics (started by US foreign investment policies..NAFTA, et al...) you guys are not far from the scenario posted by "willing2"...stop fooling yourselves people...

the working class has got to organize, stop listening to the BS propaganda designed to keep you divided while the uppper class wreaks the benefits of your demise....


working class people in this country actualy enable their own downfall. One only need to view some of these boards and see how they bash the only institutions that will try to help them.

Just a question.

How would one know how many, "on theses boards" actually works?

And, if they don't work, how can they speak for the working class?

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Mon 11/01/10 05:07 PM



does Brazil have poverty? without a doubt..there is a HUGE chasm between the haves and have not's... middle class doesn't exist outside the USA (everywhere else its known as Working Class)...take a good look at global economics (started by US foreign investment policies..NAFTA, et al...) you guys are not far from the scenario posted by "willing2"...stop fooling yourselves people...

the working class has got to organize, stop listening to the BS propaganda designed to keep you divided while the uppper class wreaks the benefits of your demise....


working class people in this country actualy enable their own downfall. One only need to view some of these boards and see how they bash the only institutions that will try to help them.

Just a question.

How would one know how many, "on theses boards" actually works?

And, if they don't work, how can they speak for the working class?
Good point I have seen many people on medicare on these boards claiming Obamas health care plan is a communist take over. People makeing 8 bucks an hour bad mouthing Unions. the list goes on and on.