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Enough is enough!!! All 3 countries America, Canada, Mexico, have to pull thier heads outta thier collective Azzes and take action! |
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No, this is one time MAerica needs to just pony up and go break some heads in Mexico military style. We need to send tens of thousands of tropps door to door through entire communities and when gunfire erupst we get all Delta Force on them. Rescue who we can, say prayers for the rest!
We need to show the, that not only are our balls bigger but we got the arm to back them. |
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No, this is one time MAerica needs to just pony up and go break some heads in Mexico military style. We need to send tens of thousands of tropps door to door through entire communities and when gunfire erupst we get all Delta Force on them. Rescue who we can, say prayers for the rest! We need to show the, that not only are our balls bigger but we got the arm to back them. |
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The wife has given several conflicting stories, if she's not the prime suspect, she probably should be. Mexican 'Pirates'? -- Why We First Suspect the Spouse This doesn't change the fact that our borders are porous and something desperately needs to be changed. I can agree with that. Our borders should be better protected - but drugs are not just entering through Mexico, they come in through some very protected sites along our coastal regions as well. We definately need to figure out a way to protect the most vulnerable areas, but I totally disagree with sending military into another country simply because they have drug lords selling their product in the U.S. |
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Edited by
mightymoe
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Mon 10/25/10 11:05 PM
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The wife has given several conflicting stories, if she's not the prime suspect, she probably should be. Mexican 'Pirates'? -- Why We First Suspect the Spouse This doesn't change the fact that our borders are porous and something desperately needs to be changed. I can agree with that. Our borders should be better protected - but drugs are not just entering through Mexico, they come in through some very protected sites along our coastal regions as well. We definately need to figure out a way to protect the most vulnerable areas, but I totally disagree with sending military into another country simply because they have drug lords selling their product in the U.S. not me... we didn't have a problem with it in Columbia, Ecuador,, Nicaragua,or any of the other central American counties... |
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Edited by
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Tue 10/26/10 08:31 AM
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The wife has given several conflicting stories, if she's not the prime suspect, she probably should be. Mexican 'Pirates'? -- Why We First Suspect the Spouse This doesn't change the fact that our borders are porous and something desperately needs to be changed. I can agree with that. Our borders should be better protected - but drugs are not just entering through Mexico, they come in through some very protected sites along our coastal regions as well. We definately need to figure out a way to protect the most vulnerable areas, but I totally disagree with sending military into another country simply because they have drug lords selling their product in the U.S. not me... we didn't have a problem with it in Columbia, Ecuador,, Nicaragua,or any of the other central American counties... I see it as matter of cost/benefit. If we address the problem internally from the perspective of boarder control, and other social issues that surround the reasons for 'hard' drug use and its 'internal' distribution, the benefits far exceed the cost. Cost cannot be viewed in financial terms alone. Addressing the problem adequately with internal measures is more beneficial in terms of our social well-being and does not further endanger 'innocent' life and property in another country. Financially, we would be ahead of the game as well. Obviously if we have the financial resouces to support a 'short-term' military intervention, we can invest those funds internally, to expand boarder protection and increase efforts to resolving the social issues of drugs internally. That kind of internal effort would also create long-term new jobs in many areas of the workforce, bolster the need for new technology which is good for businesses, and create avenues for new philanthropic ventures and entrepreneurship. So the question becomes, do we seek to control internal issues through external efforts, or do we utilize the same financial resources that are more beneficial to our short and long-term goals? |
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Enough is enough!!! All 3 countries America, Canada, Mexico, have to pull thier heads outta thier collective Azzes and take action! They have been working toward the NAU and SPP for years. Bad. bad, idea. H won't secure the border. He needs those Illegals votes. Im so sick of the "its your responsibility" and the "its your problem" game...while our Gov's play games peeps die and the drug cartels strangle Mexico. Where do you think they are looking next?? Enough! its time for a cohesive plan from all 3 Gov's to combat this Bullchit! Mexico is rich enough and has enough troops to do what needs doing. They just don't want to. Ummmm, the Mexican Government is on the virge of collapsing. |
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De-fund the drug cartels. Legalize all drugs in the US. Never gonna happen and it d=won't defund the cartels BTW. The make A LOT of money running a lot of other illegal rackets. |
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De-fund the drug cartels. Legalize all drugs in the US. Never gonna happen and it d=won't defund the cartels BTW. The make A LOT of money running a lot of other illegal rackets. Slavery, I guess. Kills for hire, probably. Prostitution, surely. But drugs are their main source of money. That's the other part, the government has no right legislating morality. Prostitution should be legalized and taxed also. Their war on prostitution does nothing but deny many men the one resource they most desire: a cheap source of sex. Then the government could focus on their other sources of income. |
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It's time to admit that the enemy is us (U.S.) and look to fix the problem from within our borders. We aren't the enemy, but our authoritarian laws on drugs are. Legalize all drugs, that will de-fund the cartels and collapse drug rings around the world. It will allow the Government to tax drugs, it will allow drug users to live as normal a life as possible and most importantly, it will prevent innocent deaths over drug turf. Also, if we then freed everyone imprisoned for possession, it would take a huge burden off the taxpayers. No it won't, it will only make the problem worse. |
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It's time to admit that the enemy is us (U.S.) and look to fix the problem from within our borders. We aren't the enemy, but our authoritarian laws on drugs are. Legalize all drugs, that will de-fund the cartels and collapse drug rings around the world. It will allow the Government to tax drugs, it will allow drug users to live as normal a life as possible and most importantly, it will prevent innocent deaths over drug turf. Also, if we then freed everyone imprisoned for possession, it would take a huge burden off the taxpayers. No it won't, it will only make the problem worse. How would it do that? I'm not big on gratuitous assertions. |
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The wife has given several conflicting stories, if she's not the prime suspect, she probably should be. Mexican 'Pirates'? -- Why We First Suspect the Spouse This doesn't change the fact that our borders are porous and something desperately needs to be changed. There are witnesses on both sides of the lake who veryify her story. Also it has been confirmed that it was low level Zetas wjp pulled thos one off and the leadership is furious. The ones responsible for this are in hiding right now because EVERYONE is looking for them. Law Enforcement and Zetas(Who are looking to kill them). I initially thought she was either lying or somehow involved but the evidence they have points in another direction. |
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No, this is one time MAerica needs to just pony up and go break some heads in Mexico military style. We need to send tens of thousands of tropps door to door through entire communities and when gunfire erupst we get all Delta Force on them. Rescue who we can, say prayers for the rest! We need to show the, that not only are our balls bigger but we got the arm to back them. Delta Force and Seal Team 6 has been in Mexico since the 90's assisting with assassinations and training Federal Police and the Military. Remember that whole Pablo Escobar mess when he was killed by a member of a combined Seal\Delta Force raid. |
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The wife has given several conflicting stories, if she's not the prime suspect, she probably should be. Mexican 'Pirates'? -- Why We First Suspect the Spouse This doesn't change the fact that our borders are porous and something desperately needs to be changed. I can agree with that. Our borders should be better protected - but drugs are not just entering through Mexico, they come in through some very protected sites along our coastal regions as well. We definately need to figure out a way to protect the most vulnerable areas, but I totally disagree with sending military into another country simply because they have drug lords selling their product in the U.S. not me... we didn't have a problem with it in Columbia, Ecuador,, Nicaragua,or any of the other central American counties... I see it as matter of cost/benefit. If we address the problem internally from the perspective of boarder control, and other social issues that surround the reasons for 'hard' drug use and its 'internal' distribution, the benefits far exceed the cost. Cost cannot be viewed in financial terms alone. Addressing the problem adequately with internal measures is more beneficial in terms of our social well-being and does not further endanger 'innocent' life and property in another country. Financially, we would be ahead of the game as well. Obviously if we have the financial resouces to support a 'short-term' military intervention, we can invest those funds internally, to expand boarder protection and increase efforts to resolving the social issues of drugs internally. That kind of internal effort would also create long-term new jobs in many areas of the workforce, bolster the need for new technology which is good for businesses, and create avenues for new philanthropic ventures and entrepreneurship. So the question becomes, do we seek to control internal issues through external efforts, or do we utilize the same financial resources that are more beneficial to our short and long-term goals? |
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The wife has given several conflicting stories, if she's not the prime suspect, she probably should be. Mexican 'Pirates'? -- Why We First Suspect the Spouse This doesn't change the fact that our borders are porous and something desperately needs to be changed. I can agree with that. Our borders should be better protected - but drugs are not just entering through Mexico, they come in through some very protected sites along our coastal regions as well. We definately need to figure out a way to protect the most vulnerable areas, but I totally disagree with sending military into another country simply because they have drug lords selling their product in the U.S. not me... we didn't have a problem with it in Columbia, Ecuador,, Nicaragua,or any of the other central American counties... I see it as matter of cost/benefit. If we address the problem internally from the perspective of boarder control, and other social issues that surround the reasons for 'hard' drug use and its 'internal' distribution, the benefits far exceed the cost. Cost cannot be viewed in financial terms alone. Addressing the problem adequately with internal measures is more beneficial in terms of our social well-being and does not further endanger 'innocent' life and property in another country. Financially, we would be ahead of the game as well. Obviously if we have the financial resouces to support a 'short-term' military intervention, we can invest those funds internally, to expand boarder protection and increase efforts to resolving the social issues of drugs internally. That kind of internal effort would also create long-term new jobs in many areas of the workforce, bolster the need for new technology which is good for businesses, and create avenues for new philanthropic ventures and entrepreneurship. So the question becomes, do we seek to control internal issues through external efforts, or do we utilize the same financial resources that are more beneficial to our short and long-term goals? i agree, but i still think a show of force at the border towns needs to happen - just to them know that it will not be tolerated on our side of the border... Mexico is renowned for it's corrupt politicians and their unwillingness to try to do anything about it. so if we build up a few troops at the border and hassle everyone that crosses it, the gangs will move further into Mexico. The last thing they really want is to hassled crossing the border. |
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The wife has given several conflicting stories, if she's not the prime suspect, she probably should be. Mexican 'Pirates'? -- Why We First Suspect the Spouse This doesn't change the fact that our borders are porous and something desperately needs to be changed. I can agree with that. Our borders should be better protected - but drugs are not just entering through Mexico, they come in through some very protected sites along our coastal regions as well. We definately need to figure out a way to protect the most vulnerable areas, but I totally disagree with sending military into another country simply because they have drug lords selling their product in the U.S. not me... we didn't have a problem with it in Columbia, Ecuador,, Nicaragua,or any of the other central American counties... I see it as matter of cost/benefit. If we address the problem internally from the perspective of boarder control, and other social issues that surround the reasons for 'hard' drug use and its 'internal' distribution, the benefits far exceed the cost. Cost cannot be viewed in financial terms alone. Addressing the problem adequately with internal measures is more beneficial in terms of our social well-being and does not further endanger 'innocent' life and property in another country. Financially, we would be ahead of the game as well. Obviously if we have the financial resouces to support a 'short-term' military intervention, we can invest those funds internally, to expand boarder protection and increase efforts to resolving the social issues of drugs internally. That kind of internal effort would also create long-term new jobs in many areas of the workforce, bolster the need for new technology which is good for businesses, and create avenues for new philanthropic ventures and entrepreneurship. So the question becomes, do we seek to control internal issues through external efforts, or do we utilize the same financial resources that are more beneficial to our short and long-term goals? i agree, but i still think a show of force at the border towns needs to happen - just to them know that it will not be tolerated on our side of the border... Mexico is renowned for it's corrupt politicians and their unwillingness to try to do anything about it. so if we build up a few troops at the border and hassle everyone that crosses it, the gangs will move further into Mexico. The last thing they really want is to hassled crossing the border. I agree. If these attackers saw a Coast Guard vessel or knew there was a heavy presance in the area this attack would have happened. A show of force is only part of what we need. |
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The wife has given several conflicting stories, if she's not the prime suspect, she probably should be. Mexican 'Pirates'? -- Why We First Suspect the Spouse This doesn't change the fact that our borders are porous and something desperately needs to be changed. I can agree with that. Our borders should be better protected - but drugs are not just entering through Mexico, they come in through some very protected sites along our coastal regions as well. We definately need to figure out a way to protect the most vulnerable areas, but I totally disagree with sending military into another country simply because they have drug lords selling their product in the U.S. not me... we didn't have a problem with it in Columbia, Ecuador,, Nicaragua,or any of the other central American counties... I see it as matter of cost/benefit. If we address the problem internally from the perspective of boarder control, and other social issues that surround the reasons for 'hard' drug use and its 'internal' distribution, the benefits far exceed the cost. Cost cannot be viewed in financial terms alone. Addressing the problem adequately with internal measures is more beneficial in terms of our social well-being and does not further endanger 'innocent' life and property in another country. Financially, we would be ahead of the game as well. Obviously if we have the financial resouces to support a 'short-term' military intervention, we can invest those funds internally, to expand boarder protection and increase efforts to resolving the social issues of drugs internally. That kind of internal effort would also create long-term new jobs in many areas of the workforce, bolster the need for new technology which is good for businesses, and create avenues for new philanthropic ventures and entrepreneurship. So the question becomes, do we seek to control internal issues through external efforts, or do we utilize the same financial resources that are more beneficial to our short and long-term goals? i agree, but i still think a show of force at the border towns needs to happen - just to them know that it will not be tolerated on our side of the border... Mexico is renowned for it's corrupt politicians and their unwillingness to try to do anything about it. so if we build up a few troops at the border and hassle everyone that crosses it, the gangs will move further into Mexico. The last thing they really want is to hassled crossing the border. I agree. If these attackers saw a Coast Guard vessel or knew there was a heavy presance in the area this attack would have happened. A show of force is only part of what we need. |
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The wife has given several conflicting stories, if she's not the prime suspect, she probably should be. Mexican 'Pirates'? -- Why We First Suspect the Spouse This doesn't change the fact that our borders are porous and something desperately needs to be changed. I can agree with that. Our borders should be better protected - but drugs are not just entering through Mexico, they come in through some very protected sites along our coastal regions as well. We definately need to figure out a way to protect the most vulnerable areas, but I totally disagree with sending military into another country simply because they have drug lords selling their product in the U.S. not me... we didn't have a problem with it in Columbia, Ecuador,, Nicaragua,or any of the other central American counties... I see it as matter of cost/benefit. If we address the problem internally from the perspective of boarder control, and other social issues that surround the reasons for 'hard' drug use and its 'internal' distribution, the benefits far exceed the cost. Cost cannot be viewed in financial terms alone. Addressing the problem adequately with internal measures is more beneficial in terms of our social well-being and does not further endanger 'innocent' life and property in another country. Financially, we would be ahead of the game as well. Obviously if we have the financial resouces to support a 'short-term' military intervention, we can invest those funds internally, to expand boarder protection and increase efforts to resolving the social issues of drugs internally. That kind of internal effort would also create long-term new jobs in many areas of the workforce, bolster the need for new technology which is good for businesses, and create avenues for new philanthropic ventures and entrepreneurship. So the question becomes, do we seek to control internal issues through external efforts, or do we utilize the same financial resources that are more beneficial to our short and long-term goals? i agree, but i still think a show of force at the border towns needs to happen - just to them know that it will not be tolerated on our side of the border... Mexico is renowned for it's corrupt politicians and their unwillingness to try to do anything about it. so if we build up a few troops at the border and hassle everyone that crosses it, the gangs will move further into Mexico. The last thing they really want is to hassled crossing the border. I agree. If these attackers saw a Coast Guard vessel or knew there was a heavy presance in the area this attack would have happened. A show of force is only part of what we need. AND they need to be able to cross the border if they see an American in danger. |
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Edited by
Redykeulous
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Fri 10/29/10 04:36 PM
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The wife has given several conflicting stories, if she's not the prime suspect, she probably should be. Mexican 'Pirates'? -- Why We First Suspect the Spouse This doesn't change the fact that our borders are porous and something desperately needs to be changed. I can agree with that. Our borders should be better protected - but drugs are not just entering through Mexico, they come in through some very protected sites along our coastal regions as well. We definately need to figure out a way to protect the most vulnerable areas, but I totally disagree with sending military into another country simply because they have drug lords selling their product in the U.S. not me... we didn't have a problem with it in Columbia, Ecuador,, Nicaragua,or any of the other central American counties... I see it as matter of cost/benefit. If we address the problem internally from the perspective of boarder control, and other social issues that surround the reasons for 'hard' drug use and its 'internal' distribution, the benefits far exceed the cost. Cost cannot be viewed in financial terms alone. Addressing the problem adequately with internal measures is more beneficial in terms of our social well-being and does not further endanger 'innocent' life and property in another country. Financially, we would be ahead of the game as well. Obviously if we have the financial resouces to support a 'short-term' military intervention, we can invest those funds internally, to expand boarder protection and increase efforts to resolving the social issues of drugs internally. That kind of internal effort would also create long-term new jobs in many areas of the workforce, bolster the need for new technology which is good for businesses, and create avenues for new philanthropic ventures and entrepreneurship. So the question becomes, do we seek to control internal issues through external efforts, or do we utilize the same financial resources that are more beneficial to our short and long-term goals? i agree, but i still think a show of force at the border towns needs to happen - just to them know that it will not be tolerated on our side of the border... Mexico is renowned for it's corrupt politicians and their unwillingness to try to do anything about it. so if we build up a few troops at the border and hassle everyone that crosses it, the gangs will move further into Mexico. The last thing they really want is to hassled crossing the border. I'm not opposed to that at all, in fact, it seems like the best way to procede while alternative (more long-term) border security can be developed and established. It also seems like a good interum use of military personnel stationed in the U.S.. With the current job crunch, and considering the overseas alternative, some troups might be happy to re-enlist for another term, if there's a greater prospect of in country assignment. |
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The wife has given several conflicting stories, if she's not the prime suspect, she probably should be. Mexican 'Pirates'? -- Why We First Suspect the Spouse This doesn't change the fact that our borders are porous and something desperately needs to be changed. I can agree with that. Our borders should be better protected - but drugs are not just entering through Mexico, they come in through some very protected sites along our coastal regions as well. We definately need to figure out a way to protect the most vulnerable areas, but I totally disagree with sending military into another country simply because they have drug lords selling their product in the U.S. not me... we didn't have a problem with it in Columbia, Ecuador,, Nicaragua,or any of the other central American counties... I see it as matter of cost/benefit. If we address the problem internally from the perspective of boarder control, and other social issues that surround the reasons for 'hard' drug use and its 'internal' distribution, the benefits far exceed the cost. Cost cannot be viewed in financial terms alone. Addressing the problem adequately with internal measures is more beneficial in terms of our social well-being and does not further endanger 'innocent' life and property in another country. Financially, we would be ahead of the game as well. Obviously if we have the financial resouces to support a 'short-term' military intervention, we can invest those funds internally, to expand boarder protection and increase efforts to resolving the social issues of drugs internally. That kind of internal effort would also create long-term new jobs in many areas of the workforce, bolster the need for new technology which is good for businesses, and create avenues for new philanthropic ventures and entrepreneurship. So the question becomes, do we seek to control internal issues through external efforts, or do we utilize the same financial resources that are more beneficial to our short and long-term goals? i agree, but i still think a show of force at the border towns needs to happen - just to them know that it will not be tolerated on our side of the border... Mexico is renowned for it's corrupt politicians and their unwillingness to try to do anything about it. so if we build up a few troops at the border and hassle everyone that crosses it, the gangs will move further into Mexico. The last thing they really want is to hassled crossing the border. I'm not opposed to that at all, in fact, it seems like the best way to procede while alternative (more long-term) border security can be developed and established. It also seems like a good intermum use of military personnel stationed in the U.S.. With the current job crunch, and considering the overseas alternative, some troups might be happy to re-enlist for another term, if there's a greater prospect of in country assignment. That will only go so far. They have to be able to enforce the laws, now just catch the person walk them to the border and let them go. |
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