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Topic: Yer nuts if you question Authority say
davidben1's photo
Sun 10/17/10 08:50 AM
i know middleearthly, it is disgusting.

the blatant SUPERIORITY COMPLEX, delusion's of grandeaur, unti-social, sociopath, sociapathic defintion's, of that which define it's fellow man as being less than itself, and the will and intent and motive to undermine and discard the basic platform of all human as equal, within the MENTAL and PHSCHOLOGICAL INSTITUTION'S, such even leading to the PHYSICAL abuse of human life...

it's making me wish to persue practicing law...

but, how can it be missed, it would take the assembly of, and collective voice, of every lawyer that fight for civil rights, gathered together in one mind and accord, to fight such unsane notion's as sane definitions of human beings.

even the addendum to such, by the mayo clinic, that this only apply to those "not able to function, (or function poorly), deeming anything that "dissent" such, as A CONSPIRACY THEORIST?

for those that seek PROTECTION FROM "ANY ACCUSTATION", can envoke "CONSPIRACY THEORIST", as valid and legitmate defense, and therefore deem this as adequate aquittal of ANY SCRUTINY?

sheer unsanity in broad daylight.

conspiracy...

TWO OR MORE HAVING A CONCEALED MOTIVE TO CONSPIRE AGAINST ANNOTHER?

every ****ing human hath been guilty of a conspiracy.

what two kindergarten's did not conspire in a conspiracy to "degrade" another student?

the very word conspiracy has become so unsanely defined as derrogatory, the by the very peoples itself, that NOW THE VERY WORD HATH BEEN TURNED AGAINST THEMSELF.

for, a ANYTHING labeled a "conspiracy theorist", HATH NO VOICE, just as was wished when it was picked up by mass media, not by the media itself, for they did not see or even consider the damage such could cause to even to THEMSELF, being so busy using it to disregard all but what wished to believed.

and the commoner, so busy endorsing it to "fight their neighbor", did not see how such accustion could leave themself guilty, with NO PROOF.

for was not abe lincoln a conspiricy theorist?

were not any that opposed to the earth as flat a conspiracy theorist?

were not any that wished for black to stop being murdered, and being made aqual to whites a conspiracy theorist?

were not any that oppsoed hitler a conspiracy theorist?

were not any that wanted the indian's treated as equal, and fair, as conspiracy theorist?

were not any that that wanted WOMEN as equal to MEN, and able to vote, A CONSPIRACY THEORIST?

were not any that wanted GAY'S, treated as equal to het's conspiracy theorist?

anything beyond MUTUAL CONSENT OF ALL ADULT'S, and ANY BELIEF, ACTION, IS OK, LEST YOU INDUCE BODILY HARM ON ANOTHER BE A CONSPIRACY THEN, LOL...

the very logic being used for any of the definition's of human behaviour being passed down is absurd, and undermine the human species itself.

THE VERY USE OF A "LABEL", AGAINST THE ACCUSED, HAS COME TO BE REASON FOR ESPONGEMENT OF ANY OR ALL ACCUSTATION MADE, AS REAL, OR HAVING MERIT, OR ANY VALUE...

such be a dark proposal of what the future of the human species shall be.

but, then that "negative", lol...

but, then ANYTHING THAT DEEM "ANY HUMAN BEHAVIOUR AS "NOT GOOD", IS BEING NEGATIVE?

unsane, and the people as the world masses are so busy staring at their own defense of their "own point" individually, than none see such as real?

wonder why it was said, that self pride hath the power to destroy a society.

hope "all as one", come up with some "common pride" soon, or the 'singular group pride', threaten to destroy many 'a groups of people', but the one most powerful.










Redykeulous's photo
Sun 10/17/10 10:56 AM
Edited by Redykeulous on Sun 10/17/10 11:07 AM
“A little knowledge is a dangerous thing”

We’ve heard that said often but how does apply to the OP?

Reading a blurb or a blog or taking information (especially information that is scientific in nature)out of its relavent context is not a good way to develop opinions about the subject and may, in fact, cause harm to others.

In the case of the OP, the information presented was taken out of context and is presented with opinions which reflect a bias against the field of psychology.

This is a predominant reason why people tend to avoid seeking qualified treatment from experts in the field. Not only can experts treat illnesses of mind but in doing so, individuals, their families and society can benefit greatly.

To set the record strait I provide the following:

website: American Psychological Association (APA) DSM-V Development
http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevisions/Pages/proposedrevision.aspx?rid=106

Here is their proposal for the listing of Oppositional Defiant Disorder:

APA DSM-V Development
313.81 Oppositional Defiant Disorder
A. A persistent pattern of angry and irritable mood along with defiant and vindictive behavior as evidenced by four (or more) of the following symptoms being displayed with one or more persons other than siblings.

Angry/Irritable Mood
1. Loses temper
2. Is touchy or easily annoyed by others.
3. Is angry and resentful

Defiant/Headstrong Behavior
4. Argues with adults
5. Actively defies or refuses to comply with adults’ request or rules
6. Deliberately annoys people
7. Blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior

Vindictiveness
8. Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past six months

B. (NOTE: UNDER CONSIDERATION) The persistence and frequency of these behaviors should be used to distinguish a behavior that is within normal limits from a behavior that is symptomatic to determine if they should be considered a symptom of the disorder. For children under 5 years of age, the behavior must occur on most days for a period of at least six months unless otherwise noted (see symptom #8). For individuals 5 years or older, the behavior must occur at least once per week for at least six months, unless otherwise noted (see symptom #8). While these frequency criteria provide a minimal level of frequency to define symptoms, other factors should also be considered such as whether the frequency and intensity of the behaviors are non-normative given the person’s developmental level, gender, and culture

C. The disturbance in behavior causes clinically significant impairment in social, educational, or vocational activities.

D. The behaviors may be confined to only one setting or in more severe cases present in multiple settings.


It’s clear from the information above that the disorder (ODD) is related primarily to children. Children do not experience or exhibit psychological disorders in the same way adults do. Also, children tend to experience disorders that adults do not. In either case children require differing diagnosis and differences in treatment.

ODD is an issue for the individual which can include other complication, and for the families who must deal with the ODD child every day, and for teachers and classmates. Left untreated, ODD, can present a problem to society.

To the individual:
Left untreated the individual has high risk factors for: failing in school, aggression, low self-esteem, social rejection, isolation, running away, anxiety and depression. Later in life the risk is greater for substance abuse, relationships with authority figures like employers and the law and facing legal issues.

Other complication:
Children with ODD often have other ‘treatable’ behavioral or mental health issues such as,
Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)
Depression ---- Anxiety ----- Learning & communication disorders

For families there is a great amount of frustration, conflict, power struggles creating stress and heightening the risk of siblings reacting to the to disruptions around them with their own symptoms which can likewise carry over into adulthood.

Another clarification to the OP that needs to be made is that Children NEED to develop a certain respect to authority and to identify who authority figures are.

Authority within the family must be established, for it is through the family that a child finds safety and comfort, and learns how to control and deal with their emotions (temper tantrums, hurt feelings, insecurity, fear, etc.).

Authority also guides the child to maneuver effectively with accordance to societal norms. Teachers must be considered an authority figure so that children will learn to behave properly in a classroom setting so the learning environment is beneficial to all students.

About pharmaceuticals:
Medical doctors should understand the limitations of their particular field, when they do such pediatricians and family doctors will refer an otherwise, physically, healthy child to a psychologist for proper diagnosis and treatment options.

Unfortunately, many doctors still attempt to remedy a child’s symptoms with a pharmaceutical prescription. The reasons are varied; sometimes doctor succumbs to a parent’s plea, or makes determinations based of the amount of resources available and affordable to the caretaker’s situation. None of these reasons are supported by most of the medical field, but it happens.

In the hands of a competent psychologist, diagnosis and treatment options are determined based on individual cases. Pharmaceuticals are not always included, or may be prescribed later or may only be used in the beginning to enhance and increase the success of further treatment options.

It’s important to recognize that all doctors practice within the limitations of general fields or specializations. Some doctors, such a family practitioners and pediatricians do overstep their bounds and attempt to treat psychological disorders with pharmaceuticals. All too often when such attempts fail or complications result, the specialized field of psychology that is blamed.

The context in which information or knowledge is passed on and received should be considered before establishing opinions because “a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.” Especially to a child whose development and success in life may be dependent on correct diagnosis and treatment.

Redykeulous's photo
Sun 10/17/10 11:00 AM
"ODD is a mental disorder commonly found in teenagers. It is severe enough that they can not function (or function poorly) in simple day-to-day life" (this is not a diagnosis for adult conspiracy theorists or anti-government politically-minded individuals)"

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/oppositional-defiant-disorder/DS00630/DSECTION=symptoms


Well, at least one ray of light shines - maybe together our rays will be brighter.


:wink:

davidben1's photo
Sun 10/17/10 11:41 AM
if a student, or child, or adult, or human, OF THE COMMON FACTOR OF LIFE, COMMON IS THEY BE HUMAN, be implicated, or defined by way of derrogatory implication of BEHAVIOUR, OR WORDS, then IT BE IMPERATIVE, TO THE EQUAL REPRESENTATION OF ALL, that ANY, that make make such IMPLICATION, that hath ALL POWER to reduce, lesson, impoverish, restrict, control, and harm another INDIVIDUAL, MUST BE QUESTIONED AS WELL!

for to not do so, is to idly stand by, and allow SOME, to define their own fellow species with all disregard, having no insight as to any equal footing, or foundation?

for that which MAKE SUCH ACCUSTION OR RULING OR DEFINITION, MUST BE HELD TO THE STRICTEST REVIEW AND SCRUTINY, certainly BY SOMETHING "OUTSIDE" OF THE SAME PIER GROUP, as what be in the same PIER GROUP, hath easily the SAME MOTIVE or INTENT?

for anything called to justice and fair to be maintained, THE SCHOOL MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTIBLE AND SCRUTINZED AS DULY GUILTY OF TACTIC'S OR PRACTICES THAT CAN CREATE SUCH ACTIONS?

the TEACHER'S must be held as ACCOUNTIBLE AND SCRUTINIZED FOR BEING ABLE TO CREATE OR CAUSE ANY OF THESE BEHAVIOURS OR ACTIONS?

the parent must be held to ACCOUNTIBLE AND SCRUTINIZED for HAVING THE ABILITY AND GUILT OF ACCOUNTING FOR ANY OF THESE BEHAVIOURS!

for any FAIR, OR BALANCED THING CALLED JUSTICE, OR EQUAL CARING, OR EQUAL REPRESENTATION?

the government must be be HELD AS ACCOUNTIBLE AND SCRUTINZED FOR HAVING THE ABILITY TO CREATE ANY OF THESE BEHAVIOURS?

the pyshcologist must be held accountible AND SCRUTINIZED FOR HAVING THE ABILITY TO CREATE ANY OF THESE BEHAVIOURS?

the lack of the study TO EVEN BEGIN TO ADDRESS SUCH ISSUE'S, SHOW'S IT'S TOTAL DISREAGRD OF COMMON RIGHTS OF ASSESSING ACCOUNTIBILITY, AND THEREFORE DISPLAY EXTEREME BIAS in it's own study.

when any established power has come to be BELIEVED AS THE "ULTIMATE TRUTH", then their is no true democracy, or equal accountibility for all, as possible creator's of anything called less than good.




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