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People act like America has never done anything as brutal or unnecessary 
We are no different than them, we just have different reasons for torture and killing than they do. I don't see us putting people in prison for life, or executing them for adultry or drawing a cartoon. Just sayin' |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Wed 09/22/10 05:39 PM
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People act like America has never done anything as brutal or unnecessary
We are no different than them, we just have different reasons for torture and killing than they do. I don't see us putting people in prison for life, or executing them for adultry or drawing a cartoon. Just sayin' I guess you don't know our history, yes, people have died for adultery in this country. You could be killed here for a list of sins in the old days. And to add to that, we have tortured, abused and lynched blacks for being black. We have burned women for being witches. We herded Japanese people into camps. We continually have hate crimes against gays on the streets daily. Etc... Who is better than who? It is just different reasons for heinous acts. We cannot sit in judgment of others, we are as barbaric as they are. |
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One group of people's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. One major major reason we shouldn't be in the middle east at all. The history of the place is full of wrongs by each group. We cannot justify ANY of them in reality. There are atrocities across the board. What we have done is basically pick one of the bad guys to back in all situations. Hell we sometimes switch sides on them just for the hell of it. It is a mess. I highlight your statement above because it is absolutely false. The actions of terrorists are not the actions of freedom fighters. The actions of terrorists are considered war crimes by any and all true freedom fighters - those who do not bomb buses, cafes and fire rockets indiscriminately into cities timed to kill as many innocent civilians as possible. Your analysis of the mideast conflict is wrong and biased. The atrocities of the terrorists far outweigh the wrongs of the Israelis and this is the reason why we are their allies. The difference can be summed up this way. In the mideast conflict, 1. Israel does everything in their power to prevent civilian casualties. 2. Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Aqsa martyrs, Islamic Jihad and other Palestinian terrorists do everything in their power to produce a maximum number of civilian casualties. It is a stark and indisputable difference and defines the difference between terrorist and freedom fighter. You are wrong and need to do some research on what you write. |
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People act like America has never done anything as brutal or unnecessary
We are no different than them, we just have different reasons for torture and killing than they do. I don't see us putting people in prison for life, or executing them for adultry or drawing a cartoon. Just sayin' I guess you don't know our history, yes, people have died for adultery in this country. You could be killed here for a list of sins in the old days. And to add to that, we have tortured, abused and lynched blacks for being black. We have burned women for being witches. We herded Japanese people into camps. We continually have hate crimes against gays on the streets daily. Etc... Who is better than who? It is just different reasons for heinous acts. We cannot sit in judgment of others, we are as barbaric as they are. Exactly, you said "Old Days" Not to mention we don't use people as human shields, especially women and children. |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Wed 09/22/10 07:47 PM
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One group of people's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. One major major reason we shouldn't be in the middle east at all. The history of the place is full of wrongs by each group. We cannot justify ANY of them in reality. There are atrocities across the board. What we have done is basically pick one of the bad guys to back in all situations. Hell we sometimes switch sides on them just for the hell of it. It is a mess. I highlight your statement above because it is absolutely false. The actions of terrorists are not the actions of freedom fighters. The actions of terrorists are considered war crimes by any and all true freedom fighters - those who do not bomb buses, cafes and fire rockets indiscriminately into cities timed to kill as many innocent civilians as possible. Your analysis of the mideast conflict is wrong and biased. The atrocities of the terrorists far outweigh the wrongs of the Israelis and this is the reason why we are their allies. The difference can be summed up this way. In the mideast conflict, 1. Israel does everything in their power to prevent civilian casualties. 2. Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Aqsa martyrs, Islamic Jihad and other Palestinian terrorists do everything in their power to produce a maximum number of civilian casualties. It is a stark and indisputable difference and defines the difference between terrorist and freedom fighter. You are wrong and need to do some research on what you write. Nonsense. I am fully aware and supply thoughtful support for any position which I take. I have done my research. It is your argument that war criminals are just the same as regular troops which is absurd, uneducated, inadequate, unsupportable and laughable! 
The fact that you can claim that there is an equivalence between terrorists (war criminals) and freedom fighters or just defensive actions indicates a profound misunderstanding of ethics and is an absurd attempt to whitewash or justify the most obscene things which truly despicable war criminals do to innocent people. That you would compare suicide bombers like those who attacked the World Trade Center with defensive military maneuvers which adhere to the Geneva convention and any other reasonable code of military conduct shows perverse and backward reasoning in this matter on your part. But don't take it merely from me....Try this BBC interview as well from someone who also has studied the situation and understands it truly and well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssrKJ3Iqcw |
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One group of people's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. One major major reason we shouldn't be in the middle east at all. The history of the place is full of wrongs by each group. We cannot justify ANY of them in reality. There are atrocities across the board. What we have done is basically pick one of the bad guys to back in all situations. Hell we sometimes switch sides on them just for the hell of it. It is a mess. I highlight your statement above because it is absolutely false. The actions of terrorists are not the actions of freedom fighters. The actions of terrorists are considered war crimes by any and all true freedom fighters - those who do not bomb buses, cafes and fire rockets indiscriminately into cities timed to kill as many innocent civilians as possible. Your analysis of the mideast conflict is wrong and biased. The atrocities of the terrorists far outweigh the wrongs of the Israelis and this is the reason why we are their allies. The difference can be summed up this way. In the mideast conflict, 1. Israel does everything in their power to prevent civilian casualties. 2. Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Aqsa martyrs, Islamic Jihad and other Palestinian terrorists do everything in their power to produce a maximum number of civilian casualties. It is a stark and indisputable difference and defines the difference between terrorist and freedom fighter. You are wrong and need to do some research on what you write. Nonsense. I am fully aware and supply thoughtful support for any position which I take. I have done my research. It is your argument that war criminals are just the same as regular troops which is absurd, uneducated, inadequate, unsupportable and laughable!
The fact that you can claim that there is an equivalence between terrorists (war criminals) and freedom fighters or just defensive actions indicates a profound misunderstanding of ethics and is an absurd attempt to whitewash or justify the most obscene things which truly despicable war criminals do to innocent people. That you would compare suicide bombers like those who attacked the World Trade Center with defensive military maneuvers which adhere to the Geneva convention and any other reasonable code of military conduct shows perverse and backward reasoning in this matter on your part. But don't take it merely from me....Try this BBC interview as well from someone who also has studied the situation and understands it truly and well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssrKJ3Iqcw You cannot see past your own little world. Just because you do not see their fight as valid doesn't make it so. An open mind serves us better. I do not agree with the methods of warfare either but we also use terroristic war tactics in war making us no different. It all kills innocents. It is called collateral damage. We have lots of collateral damage to our countries name and many more will come. A killing nation like ours cannot judge others who kill. It is the pot calling the kettle. |
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People act like America has never done anything as brutal or unnecessary
We are no different than them, we just have different reasons for torture and killing than they do. I don't see us putting people in prison for life, or executing them for adultry or drawing a cartoon. Just sayin' I guess you don't know our history, yes, people have died for adultery in this country. You could be killed here for a list of sins in the old days. And to add to that, we have tortured, abused and lynched blacks for being black. We have burned women for being witches. We herded Japanese people into camps. We continually have hate crimes against gays on the streets daily. Etc... Who is better than who? It is just different reasons for heinous acts. We cannot sit in judgment of others, we are as barbaric as they are. Exactly, you said "Old Days" Not to mention we don't use people as human shields, especially women and children. No we just bomb them in their homes. |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Wed 09/22/10 08:17 PM
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One group of people's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. One major major reason we shouldn't be in the middle east at all. The history of the place is full of wrongs by each group. We cannot justify ANY of them in reality. There are atrocities across the board. What we have done is basically pick one of the bad guys to back in all situations. Hell we sometimes switch sides on them just for the hell of it. It is a mess. I highlight your statement above because it is absolutely false. The actions of terrorists are not the actions of freedom fighters. The actions of terrorists are considered war crimes by any and all true freedom fighters - those who do not bomb buses, cafes and fire rockets indiscriminately into cities timed to kill as many innocent civilians as possible. Your analysis of the mideast conflict is wrong and biased. The atrocities of the terrorists far outweigh the wrongs of the Israelis and this is the reason why we are their allies. The difference can be summed up this way. In the mideast conflict, 1. Israel does everything in their power to prevent civilian casualties. 2. Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Aqsa martyrs, Islamic Jihad and other Palestinian terrorists do everything in their power to produce a maximum number of civilian casualties. It is a stark and indisputable difference and defines the difference between terrorist and freedom fighter. You are wrong and need to do some research on what you write. Nonsense. I am fully aware and supply thoughtful support for any position which I take. I have done my research. It is your argument that war criminals are just the same as regular troops which is absurd, uneducated, inadequate, unsupportable and laughable!
The fact that you can claim that there is an equivalence between terrorists (war criminals) and freedom fighters or just defensive actions indicates a profound misunderstanding of ethics and is an absurd attempt to whitewash or justify the most obscene things which truly despicable war criminals do to innocent people. That you would compare suicide bombers like those who attacked the World Trade Center with defensive military maneuvers which adhere to the Geneva convention and any other reasonable code of military conduct shows perverse and backward reasoning in this matter on your part. But don't take it merely from me....Try this BBC interview as well from someone who also has studied the situation and understands it truly and well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssrKJ3Iqcw You cannot see past your own little world. Just because you do not see their fight as valid doesn't make it so. An open mind serves us better. I do not agree with the methods of warfare either but we also use terroristic war tactics in war making us no different. It all kills innocents. It is called collateral damage. We have lots of collateral damage to our countries name and many more will come. A killing nation like ours cannot judge others who kill. It is the pot calling the kettle.
You compare our going after Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden with the WTC bombers.
Let's see: On the one hand a group of religious fanatics decide to hijack 4 planeloads of fuel and people and ram them into office buildings. OK I am with you so far. On the other hand after thousands of innocent people are murdered our government pursues a military mission to find Bin Laden and those working with him and make them answer for the above crime. They resist using cities and families as human shields causing untold suffering because of their actions while US troops are extremely careful to target only the terrorists. These two situations are not alike. Sorry. We are not terrorists and do not go out and try to kill innocent civilians. But Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, Al-Qaeda, and Fatah al-Islam are terrorists and they do go out of their way to maximize civilian casualties. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssrKJ3Iqcw |
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Edited by
Lpdon
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Wed 09/22/10 10:18 PM
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People act like America has never done anything as brutal or unnecessary
We are no different than them, we just have different reasons for torture and killing than they do. I don't see us putting people in prison for life, or executing them for adultry or drawing a cartoon. Just sayin' I guess you don't know our history, yes, people have died for adultery in this country. You could be killed here for a list of sins in the old days. And to add to that, we have tortured, abused and lynched blacks for being black. We have burned women for being witches. We herded Japanese people into camps. We continually have hate crimes against gays on the streets daily. Etc... Who is better than who? It is just different reasons for heinous acts. We cannot sit in judgment of others, we are as barbaric as they are. Exactly, you said "Old Days" Not to mention we don't use people as human shields, especially women and children. No we just bomb them in their homes. After they kill 3,000 innocent Americans? Hell yes we do. |
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