Topic: Bands that play badly!
AndyBgood's photo
Fri 09/17/10 07:34 PM
And actually sound good doing it.

Oh yes there are all kinds of generas of music. One in particular is Avant-guard.

That is the classification for anything that cannot be classified otherwise.

A personal favorite of mine is the Residents. They are somewhat obscure. They have a very long history and a serious cult following.

They can display some rather incredible talent with how they strangle music the way they do. They are to music as Dali is to art.

Then there is Primus. Oh God yes there is a Primus. Their music can be rather unusual in its structure to "formal" music (including rock).

There is a big difference in this that these bands do not suck. They are just so damn exotic from what we would consider main stream anything.

You could call this musical surrealism. A lot of Psychedelia loosely fits in this category but again compare Pink Floyd to the residents.... YOU CAN'T DO IT!

What are other favorite musical surrealists out there? I am always out to uncover more obscurities!

boredinaz06's photo
Fri 09/17/10 07:44 PM



The interesting thing about primus is, Larry LaLonde plays in the right key but plays all the wrong notes and it works!

Goofball73's photo
Fri 09/17/10 07:53 PM
One band that I think fits into what you are talking about is Nine Inch Nails. In the late 80's, people didn't know what genre to put NIN into, so basically they were thrown into several. When Alternative music took over in the early 90's, NIN came out with The Downward Spiral. So, the industry classified NIN as Alternative. Now, I have always felt that NIN was one of the driving forces behind Alternative music becoming what it was. Yeah, Nirvana made Seattle popular and it was thought that Cobain and company introduced angst to the world. But in all honesty, NIN had a hold of the angst angle long before Nirvana. Nirvana just happened to be the band that got the world's attention. Anyways, Trent Reznor has always said that NIN really doesn't have a "style" or "type" of catagory he wanted the band to belong in. He just took elements of styles he liked and combined them into what NIN's music.

I am sure you will look at NIN as mainstream. And, to a point, they are. But they never have had a top 10 hit, or have been so popular that kids want to go out and buy their music. Honestly, if Trent had wanted to make NIN a commercial band, he could have done it. But he didn't. In 1999, NIN released The Fragile, which was nothing like Downward Spiral. Most of NIN's fans wanted another type of TDS album, but Trent did his own thing. Which is one reason why I love the dude. He stays true to what he wants. And he has never allowed others to make him do it their way. He does it how he wants.

MiddleEarthling's photo
Sat 09/18/10 09:35 AM
KISS - could it get any worse? Bad music played badly..heh.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sat 09/18/10 12:11 PM
Andy, you ought to try listening to Schoenberg's Pierrot Luniere if you're looking for some avant garde stuff. ;)

Gossipmpm's photo
Sat 09/18/10 04:34 PM
yes

kiss is the worst



then there was the NY Dolls.......:heart:



FearandLoathing's photo
Sat 09/18/10 05:18 PM

One band that I think fits into what you are talking about is Nine Inch Nails. In the late 80's, people didn't know what genre to put NIN into, so basically they were thrown into several. When Alternative music took over in the early 90's, NIN came out with The Downward Spiral. So, the industry classified NIN as Alternative. Now, I have always felt that NIN was one of the driving forces behind Alternative music becoming what it was. Yeah, Nirvana made Seattle popular and it was thought that Cobain and company introduced angst to the world. But in all honesty, NIN had a hold of the angst angle long before Nirvana. Nirvana just happened to be the band that got the world's attention. Anyways, Trent Reznor has always said that NIN really doesn't have a "style" or "type" of catagory he wanted the band to belong in. He just took elements of styles he liked and combined them into what NIN's music.

I am sure you will look at NIN as mainstream. And, to a point, they are. But they never have had a top 10 hit, or have been so popular that kids want to go out and buy their music. Honestly, if Trent had wanted to make NIN a commercial band, he could have done it. But he didn't. In 1999, NIN released The Fragile, which was nothing like Downward Spiral. Most of NIN's fans wanted another type of TDS album, but Trent did his own thing. Which is one reason why I love the dude. He stays true to what he wants. And he has never allowed others to make him do it their way. He does it how he wants.



Trent Reznor is a God among men.

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Sat 09/18/10 05:59 PM
Oysterhead

The guitarist attached ****ing deer antlers to his six-string and it sounds awesome.

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Sat 09/18/10 06:53 PM

One band that I think fits into what you are talking about is Nine Inch Nails. In the late 80's, people didn't know what genre to put NIN into, so basically they were thrown into several. When Alternative music took over in the early 90's, NIN came out with The Downward Spiral. So, the industry classified NIN as Alternative. Now, I have always felt that NIN was one of the driving forces behind Alternative music becoming what it was. Yeah, Nirvana made Seattle popular and it was thought that Cobain and company introduced angst to the world. But in all honesty, NIN had a hold of the angst angle long before Nirvana. Nirvana just happened to be the band that got the world's attention. Anyways, Trent Reznor has always said that NIN really doesn't have a "style" or "type" of catagory he wanted the band to belong in. He just took elements of styles he liked and combined them into what NIN's music.

I am sure you will look at NIN as mainstream. And, to a point, they are. But they never have had a top 10 hit, or have been so popular that kids want to go out and buy their music. Honestly, if Trent had wanted to make NIN a commercial band, he could have done it. But he didn't. In 1999, NIN released The Fragile, which was nothing like Downward Spiral. Most of NIN's fans wanted another type of TDS album, but Trent did his own thing. Which is one reason why I love the dude. He stays true to what he wants. And he has never allowed others to make him do it their way. He does it how he wants.

my friends always thought of NIN as "Industrial." and after soem consideration I'd have to agree

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Sat 09/18/10 06:59 PM

And actually sound good doing it.

Oh yes there are all kinds of generas of music. One in particular is Avant-guard.

That is the classification for anything that cannot be classified otherwise.

A personal favorite of mine is the Residents. They are somewhat obscure. They have a very long history and a serious cult following.

They can display some rather incredible talent with how they strangle music the way they do. They are to music as Dali is to art.

Then there is Primus. Oh God yes there is a Primus. Their music can be rather unusual in its structure to "formal" music (including rock).

There is a big difference in this that these bands do not suck. They are just so damn exotic from what we would consider main stream anything.

You could call this musical surrealism. A lot of Psychedelia loosely fits in this category but again compare Pink Floyd to the residents.... YOU CAN'T DO IT!

What are other favorite musical surrealists out there? I am always out to uncover more obscurities!


I have mentioned this band on here in other contexts, but I'd have to say Southern Culture on The Skids is awful, but in a great way - love them. Classic psychobilly. They even throw fried chicken at the crowd - so you won't go hungry. The song Banana Puddin' from the album Plastic Seat Sweat is a recognized classicwaving :thumbsup:

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Sat 09/18/10 07:01 PM

Oysterhead

The guitarist attached ****ing deer antlers to his six-string and it sounds awesome.
saw really cute panda earrings at Claire's in the mall 2daywaving

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 09/18/10 07:55 PM


And actually sound good doing it.

Oh yes there are all kinds of generas of music. One in particular is Avant-guard.

That is the classification for anything that cannot be classified otherwise.

A personal favorite of mine is the Residents. They are somewhat obscure. They have a very long history and a serious cult following.

They can display some rather incredible talent with how they strangle music the way they do. They are to music as Dali is to art.

Then there is Primus. Oh God yes there is a Primus. Their music can be rather unusual in its structure to "formal" music (including rock).

There is a big difference in this that these bands do not suck. They are just so damn exotic from what we would consider main stream anything.

You could call this musical surrealism. A lot of Psychedelia loosely fits in this category but again compare Pink Floyd to the residents.... YOU CAN'T DO IT!

What are other favorite musical surrealists out there? I am always out to uncover more obscurities!


I have mentioned this band on here in other contexts, but I'd have to say Southern Culture on The Skids is awful, but in a great way - love them. Classic psychobilly. They even throw fried chicken at the crowd - so you won't go hungry. The song Banana Puddin' from the album Plastic Seat Sweat is a recognized classicwaving :thumbsup:


OH BABY! YOU MAKE ME WANT TO WALK LIKE A CAMEL!


Say, would you eat that there snack cracker in your special outfit?

pitchfork

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Sat 09/18/10 08:06 PM



And actually sound good doing it.

Oh yes there are all kinds of generas of music. One in particular is Avant-guard.

That is the classification for anything that cannot be classified otherwise.

A personal favorite of mine is the Residents. They are somewhat obscure. They have a very long history and a serious cult following.

They can display some rather incredible talent with how they strangle music the way they do. They are to music as Dali is to art.

Then there is Primus. Oh God yes there is a Primus. Their music can be rather unusual in its structure to "formal" music (including rock).

There is a big difference in this that these bands do not suck. They are just so damn exotic from what we would consider main stream anything.

You could call this musical surrealism. A lot of Psychedelia loosely fits in this category but again compare Pink Floyd to the residents.... YOU CAN'T DO IT!

What are other favorite musical surrealists out there? I am always out to uncover more obscurities!


I have mentioned this band on here in other contexts, but I'd have to say Southern Culture on The Skids is awful, but in a great way - love them. Classic psychobilly. They even throw fried chicken at the crowd - so you won't go hungry. The song Banana Puddin' from the album Plastic Seat Sweat is a recognized classicwaving :thumbsup:


OH BABY! YOU MAKE ME WANT TO WALK LIKE A CAMEL!


Say, would you eat that there snack cracker in your special outfit?

pitchfork
maybe with some chicken on toplaugh

Goofball73's photo
Sat 09/18/10 08:08 PM


One band that I think fits into what you are talking about is Nine Inch Nails. In the late 80's, people didn't know what genre to put NIN into, so basically they were thrown into several. When Alternative music took over in the early 90's, NIN came out with The Downward Spiral. So, the industry classified NIN as Alternative. Now, I have always felt that NIN was one of the driving forces behind Alternative music becoming what it was. Yeah, Nirvana made Seattle popular and it was thought that Cobain and company introduced angst to the world. But in all honesty, NIN had a hold of the angst angle long before Nirvana. Nirvana just happened to be the band that got the world's attention. Anyways, Trent Reznor has always said that NIN really doesn't have a "style" or "type" of catagory he wanted the band to belong in. He just took elements of styles he liked and combined them into what NIN's music.

I am sure you will look at NIN as mainstream. And, to a point, they are. But they never have had a top 10 hit, or have been so popular that kids want to go out and buy their music. Honestly, if Trent had wanted to make NIN a commercial band, he could have done it. But he didn't. In 1999, NIN released The Fragile, which was nothing like Downward Spiral. Most of NIN's fans wanted another type of TDS album, but Trent did his own thing. Which is one reason why I love the dude. He stays true to what he wants. And he has never allowed others to make him do it their way. He does it how he wants.



Trent Reznor is a God among men.


Creatively.....Reznor surely is that. A God among men. However, I am sure many would say that NIN can sound bad, or that they play terribly. I always felt that Trent took that element and made it work. Hell, he makes bad sounds, well, sound good. LOL!

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Sat 09/18/10 08:27 PM
wow Andy I just happened upon another qualified candidate!

The Gourds

Gin and Juicedrinker

violentfemmes's photo
Sun 09/19/10 10:04 PM

And actually sound good doing it.

Oh yes there are all kinds of generas of music. One in particular is Avant-guard.

That is the classification for anything that cannot be classified otherwise.

A personal favorite of mine is the Residents. They are somewhat obscure. They have a very long history and a serious cult following.

They can display some rather incredible talent with how they strangle music the way they do. They are to music as Dali is to art.

Then there is Primus. Oh God yes there is a Primus. Their music can be rather unusual in its structure to "formal" music (including rock).

There is a big difference in this that these bands do not suck. They are just so damn exotic from what we would consider main stream anything.

You could call this musical surrealism. A lot of Psychedelia loosely fits in this category but again compare Pink Floyd to the residents.... YOU CAN'T DO IT!

What are other favorite musical surrealists out there? I am always out to uncover more obscurities!


PRIMUS SUCKS

only true fans will understand...

boredinaz06's photo
Mon 09/20/10 08:29 PM
Edited by boredinaz06 on Mon 09/20/10 08:30 PM


One band that I think fits into what you are talking about is Nine Inch Nails. In the late 80's, people didn't know what genre to put NIN into, so basically they were thrown into several. When Alternative music took over in the early 90's, NIN came out with The Downward Spiral. So, the industry classified NIN as Alternative. Now, I have always felt that NIN was one of the driving forces behind Alternative music becoming what it was. Yeah, Nirvana made Seattle popular and it was thought that Cobain and company introduced angst to the world. But in all honesty, NIN had a hold of the angst angle long before Nirvana. Nirvana just happened to be the band that got the world's attention. Anyways, Trent Reznor has always said that NIN really doesn't have a "style" or "type" of catagory he wanted the band to belong in. He just took elements of styles he liked and combined them into what NIN's music.

I am sure you will look at NIN as mainstream. And, to a point, they are. But they never have had a top 10 hit, or have been so popular that kids want to go out and buy their music. Honestly, if Trent had wanted to make NIN a commercial band, he could have done it. But he didn't. In 1999, NIN released The Fragile, which was nothing like Downward Spiral. Most of NIN's fans wanted another type of TDS album, but Trent did his own thing. Which is one reason why I love the dude. He stays true to what he wants. And he has never allowed others to make him do it their way. He does it how he wants.

my friends always thought of NIN as "Industrial." and after soem consideration I'd have to agree


Ministry, Hanzel und Gretyl and KMFDM are industrial, NIN is pop industrial.