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Topic: iman and backers talk of moving GZ mosque
Dragoness's photo
Thu 09/09/10 07:27 PM
I can't fear Islam because I know that Islam is not terrorism. Radicals of any religion are dangerous.

To hold all Muslims responsible for 9/11 is wrong and it is punishing the wrong people, making it wrong all the way around.

If we are going to restrict religions, I have some Christian churches that need to be moved. They can be held responsible by the abortion bombers and abortion clinic murderers who killed for their religion.

If my rightful opinion of people who wrongly hold all Muslims responsible for 9/11 and perpetrate prejudice and hatred are ignorant and/or hateful offend, oops sorry, but it is correct.

s1owhand's photo
Thu 09/09/10 07:35 PM
fortunately no one holds ALL muslims responsible since that is obviously idiotic.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 09/09/10 07:37 PM

fortunately no one holds ALL muslims responsible since that is obviously idiotic.


Obviously that is not correct or there would not be a problem with a mosque anywhere in this here United States.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/09/10 07:38 PM

fortunately no one holds ALL muslims responsible since that is
obviously idiotic.

obviously... to normal people

Dragoness's photo
Thu 09/09/10 07:46 PM
Normal people know that the community center with a mosque in it means absolutely nothing about 9/11 since all Muslims are not terrorists.

It is the others that can't get their mind around that concept that we need to get help.

willing2's photo
Thu 09/09/10 07:50 PM


fortunately no one holds ALL muslims responsible since that is
obviously idiotic.

obviously... to normal people
drinker smokin

AndyBgood's photo
Thu 09/09/10 08:27 PM


fortunately no one holds ALL muslims responsible since that is obviously idiotic.


Obviously that is not correct or there would not be a problem with a mosque anywhere in this here United States.


OK. Lets say White Supremacists parked a car bomb at your house and boom, you come home and everything you held dear was gone. Now I come in and build my house on the site your house stood and I move in and laugh at you because you are not white enough. Can you see the correlation?

more than likely not!

Also you protect a religion and way of life that does not have your interests in heart in the name of Tolerance.

DIRP DIRP DIRP DIRP DIRP DIRP!

Dragoness's photo
Thu 09/09/10 08:33 PM
No correlation at all.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/09/10 08:46 PM
did you really expect anything different, andy?
laugh laugh

AndyBgood's photo
Thu 09/09/10 09:01 PM

did you really expect anything different, andy?
laugh laugh



Honestly no. Some people are so fuqued up on believing everything can be traced to such easy answers as just giving everyone and everything hugs to solve everything.

Things that get too complicated for them make them break down and try to defend their "simplistic" views to the point of staying on a sinking ship.

There are women who praise Islam for preferential treatment. I would bet in all reality more Islamic women wish someone like us would rescue them from their own.

It is one thing to protect something that you know and understand. Take alligators for instance... They are hard to love. They are walking stomachs and attitudes when they are young. They get older and they can just tear us apart. I know they are out to kill me but they were purpose built to kill. Since I understand them and how they hunt and behave I can get along fine with them. People even successfully matriculated them into a 'domestic' life style but their owners know and understand the animals more than 98% of the rest of humanity. I have seen pictures of people with nine and ten foot long American Alligators in their laps! The rule of thumb with a pet alligator, do not put ANYTHING in its mouth you do not want to loose! They have a trigger reflex when their tongue is touched that makes them snap their mouth shut. But Islam, they are the same thing as handling venomous snakes. You had better be GOD DAMN sure of yourself to be in the same space as any of them. The saying goes the dangerous snakes are the ones you don't see. Islam is more like a venomous snake than an alligator.

Again some people just don't understand. That is where Darwin comes in. Survival of the fittest??? So how many monkeys ever lived past their first face to face encounter with a Lion by being foolish enough to walk right up to one?

1 in a million maybe?

Dragoness's photo
Thu 09/09/10 09:10 PM
Strange how simplistic some folks can be and accuse others of the same as though they have no knowledge of themselves.


The point here is that it is prejudice and hateful to want one religion to suffer because of terrorists when all religions have terrorists.

It is wrong to make one religion pay for a crime committed by terrorist who happened to be that religion when there are terrorists of other religions and the religions of those terrorists do not pay for the crimes of the terrorists who committed the crimes in that religions name.

It is wrong to target one religion when all religions have the same problem.

It is wrong and it isn't right.

It is prejudice and hateful to target Muslims over 9/11 because it was terrorists who committed the crimes.

Do I need to repeat myself again and again for understanding purposes?

If people are not doing it in a hateful manner than they are ignorant of the facts that Muslims should not be made to pay since they did not do 9/11, terrorists did.

Again?

Peccy's photo
Thu 09/09/10 09:40 PM
Ok, those dancing whooping and hollering in the streets after the world trade center was demolished... they were all radical extremist right? You have no friggin clue what the US is trying to deal with here do you? It's a different culture with different views than the Americans have. It's not a cultural universal. They think bad about the US. Most have been told that we are the enemy since they were born and one little "conflict" is not going to change their mind Dragoness. I'm a little tipsy and I try not to offend, but I am sick of this PC bull.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/09/10 11:57 PM

Ok, those dancing whooping and hollering in the streets after the world trade center was demolished... they were all radical extremist right? You have no friggin clue what the US is trying to deal with here do you? It's a different culture with different views than the Americans have. It's not a cultural universal. They think bad about the US. Most have been told that we are the enemy since they were born and one little "conflict" is not going to change their mind Dragoness. I'm a little tipsy and I try not to offend, but I am sick of this PC bull.
some people cannot read, i wouldn't waste my time time to explain anything to the people that cannot see past the end of their nose. it's like an old album, with the needle stuck... just playing the same thing over and over....

s1owhand's photo
Fri 09/10/10 07:00 AM
i'll say it again...

fortunately no one holds ALL muslims responsible since that is obviously idiotic.

laugh

People object to the Islamic Center next to ground zero because their
friends, loved ones and fellow americans were killed there in the name
of Islam by Islamic extremists not because they blame all Muslims for
the acts of the extremists. They do not. Most people recognize that it
is their right to build wherever they want but find it distasteful and
hurtful.

Why not just move it a couple of miles away?
There are plenty of suitable alternative sites.
And just for good measure put a synagogue in there
and a chapel and truly make it a place where all
religions are respected...

How about they come out publicly saying that it is
just fine if someone converts from Islam to Christianity
and reading the bible is alright and that the rights
of christians and jews will be respected in Islamic
countries on an EQUAL basis with Muslims?


That is what I would like to see.

Why shouldn't Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Wiccans, Hindus,
and every other religion of the world be allowed to
be freely and openly practiced in Saudi Arabia, UAE,
Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Indonesian, Afghanistan, Pakistan
well you catch my drift...

How about building a large Christian Center next to the
Jumeirah Mosque or the Masjid an-Nabawi?

Or a more apt analogy...Suppose some Christian terrorists
blew up a block of buildings near the Masjid an-Nabawi and
then developers proposed to build a large Christian Center
with chapel next to the site?

That would go over pretty well don't you think?

laugh


TonkaTruck3's photo
Fri 09/10/10 11:47 PM
I'll take American terrorists over Islamic terrorists any day, thank you!!

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 09/11/10 07:36 PM
Edited by AndyBgood on Sat 09/11/10 07:36 PM

i'll say it again...

fortunately no one holds ALL muslims responsible since that is obviously idiotic.

laugh

People object to the Islamic Center next to ground zero because their
friends, loved ones and fellow americans were killed there in the name
of Islam by Islamic extremists not because they blame all Muslims for
the acts of the extremists. They do not. Most people recognize that it
is their right to build wherever they want but find it distasteful and
hurtful.

Why not just move it a couple of miles away?
There are plenty of suitable alternative sites.
And just for good measure put a synagogue in there
and a chapel and truly make it a place where all
religions are respected...

How about they come out publicly saying that it is
just fine if someone converts from Islam to Christianity
and reading the bible is alright and that the rights
of christians and jews will be respected in Islamic
countries on an EQUAL basis with Muslims?


That is what I would like to see.

Why shouldn't Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Wiccans, Hindus,
and every other religion of the world be allowed to
be freely and openly practiced in Saudi Arabia, UAE,
Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Indonesian, Afghanistan, Pakistan
well you catch my drift...

How about building a large Christian Center next to the
Jumeirah Mosque or the Masjid an-Nabawi?

Or a more apt analogy...Suppose some Christian terrorists
blew up a block of buildings near the Masjid an-Nabawi and
then developers proposed to build a large Christian Center
with chapel next to the site?

That would go over pretty well don't you think?

laugh





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