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As the WTCs fell one at a time I sat in amazement that no one was asking if the terrorist had planted bombs in the buildings. There is absolutley no way that steel and concrete buildings would fall at near free-fall speed into their own footprints. No resistances to them falling what-so-ever. There had to be bombs in the building. The WTC's cement turned to dust right in front of us all yet we ignore that the plane's damages cause could not do that. It's just impossible. ![]() For some, the search for what happened on 9/11 isn't over "Jesse Ventura's new book American Conspiracies questions the government's position on 9/11. He wrote about the same topic on The Huffington Post, but his article was banned. Read it here on RT. You didn't see anything about it in the mainstream media, but two weeks ago at a conference in San Francisco, more than one thousand architects and engineers signed a petition demanding that Congress begin a new investigation into the destruction of the World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11. That's right, these people put their reputations in potential jeopardy because they don't buy the government's version of events. They want to know how 200,000 tons of steel disintegrated and fell to the ground in 11 seconds. They question whether the hijacked planes were responsible – or whether it could have been a controlled demolition from inside that brought down the twin towers and Building 7. Richard Gage, a member of the American Institute of Architects and the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, put it like this: "The official Federal Emergency Management [Agency] and National Institute of Standards and Technology reports provide insufficient, contradictory and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction." He's especially disturbed by Building 7, whose 47 stories came down in "pure free-fall acceleration" that afternoon – even though it was never hit by an aircraft. This is a subject I take up in my new book, American Conspiracies, published this week by Skyhorse. An excerpt follows: Some people have argued that the twin towers went down, within a half hour of one another, because of the way they were constructed. Well, those 425,000 cubic yards of concrete and 200,000 tons of steel were designed to hold up against a Boeing 707, the largest plane built at the time the towers were completed in 1973. Analysis had shown that a 707 traveling at 600 miles an hour (and those had four engines) would not cause major damage. The twin-engine Boeing 757s that hit on 9/11 were going 440 and 550 miles an hour. Still, we are told that a molten, highly intense fuel mixture from the planes brought down these two steel-framed skyscrapers. Keep in mind that no other such skyscraper in history had ever been known to collapse completely due to fire damage. So could it actually have been the result of a controlled demolition from inside the buildings? I don't claim expertise about this, but I did work four years as part of the Navy's underwater demolition teams, where we were trained to blow things to hell and high water. And my staff talked at some length with a prominent physicist, Steven E. Jones, who says that a "gravity driven collapse" without demolition charges defies the laws of physics. These buildings fell, at nearly the rate of free-fall, straight down into their own footprint, in approximately ten seconds. An object dropped from the roof of the 110-story-tall towers would reach the ground in about 9.2 seconds. Then there's the fact that steel beams that weighed as much as 200,000 pounds got tossed laterally as far as 500 feet. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) started its investigation on August 21, 2002. When their 10,000-page-long report came out three years later, the spokesman said there was no evidence to suggest a controlled demolition. But Steven E. Jones also says that molten metal found underground weeks later is proof that jet fuel couldn't have been all that was responsible. I visited the site about three weeks after 9/11, with Governor Pataki and my wife Terry. It didn't mean anything to me at the time, but they had to suspend digging that day because they were running into heat pockets of huge temperatures. These fires kept burning for more than three months, the longest-burning structure blaze ever. And this was all due to jet fuel? We're talking molten metal more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Probably the most conclusive evidence about a controlled demolition is a research paper (two years, nine authors) published in the peer-reviewed Open Chemical Physics Journal, in April 2009. In studying dust samples from the site, these scientists found chips of nano-thermite, which is a high-tech incendiary/explosive. Here's what the paper's lead author, Dr. Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen's chemistry department, had to say about the explosive that he's convinced brought down the Twin Towers and the nearby Building 7: "Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 degrees Centigrade. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel." Richard Gage is one of hundreds of credentialed architects and structural engineers who have put their careers on the line to point out the detailed anomalies and many implications of controlled demolition in the building collapses. As he puts it bluntly: "Once you get to the science, it's indisputable." If we do not get the truth this may well happen again and be done by the same criminals that still walk free today. http://rt.com/Politics/2010-03-10/jesse-ventura-911-truth.html?utm_source=2leep&utm_medium=2leep&utm_campaign=2leep this stuff is ridiculous.. it makes people alot of money, but the theories are just that... theories.. WHO is making money off this??? LOL...the MIC made the money off of this as well as the GOP who gained politically when they scared Americans into supporting illegal wars against people who did not attack us on 9-11...egads. Those who believe the 9-11 Commission's report are either suffering from cognitive dissonance or are just really really ignorant...oh, and those who refuse to give the red, white and blue a black eye. We deserve that black eye and should own it...so maybe it won't happen again. More here from yet another credible organization: ![]() http://cms.ae911truth.org/ People that write books and give speeches make money. I didn't realize that was a hard concept to grasp. I have spent hours looking over the AE website.. There is nothing there. I have read Harrit's report and I have to admit, it's pretty surprising that a so called credible scientist would use samples that were given to him after 6 years. In the real world, no one would accept such samples since there is no way to prove who actually acquired them, what type of environment they were stored in, and who has touched them. Random dust off peoples ledges.. I would stake my reputation on that..LMAO And.... In his conclusion he doesn't say that samples actually, incontrovertibly, or even remotely can be proven to be thermite, let alone the phantom NANO thermite. He says "These observations reminded us of nano-thermite fabricated at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and elsewhere." Doesn't say he can prove it or that it actually is.. It reminds him of it.. hardly a definitive work.. Sooo, people who wanted to write books got some Arabs to fly planes into buildings? C'mon, look at the whole picture as to who would gain the most. I'd rather believe that 9-11 was as reported...but it just ain't possible. I have flown an actual Falcon Jet simulator as well as PC ones...back in 1990 it took me 4 tries to hit the Sears Tower in the Falcon...try reading the Pilots for 9-11 Truth site a bit...these guys were rookies and not able to accurately fly planes into the buildings, that's obvious..plus a few of them are STILL ALIVE..one is a pilot for an airline. Egads, so many people who are shooting from the hip here... No one answers as to why OBL is not wanted for the attacks. And of the samples...why didn't authorities test the dust...speaking the dust why did the concrete pulverize into dust? WHY? There's only ONE logical answer to this...the buildings were rigged to explode..there is no other logical reason. It defies physics. Why that was NOT investigated tells us a lot. Here are some great clues: ![]() This site is now at: http://911truth.org/ |
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As the WTCs fell one at a time I sat in amazement that no one was asking if the terrorist had planted bombs in the buildings. There is absolutley no way that steel and concrete buildings would fall at near free-fall speed into their own footprints. No resistances to them falling what-so-ever. There had to be bombs in the building. The WTC's cement turned to dust right in front of us all yet we ignore that the plane's damages cause could not do that. It's just impossible. ![]() For some, the search for what happened on 9/11 isn't over "Jesse Ventura's new book American Conspiracies questions the government's position on 9/11. He wrote about the same topic on The Huffington Post, but his article was banned. Read it here on RT. You didn't see anything about it in the mainstream media, but two weeks ago at a conference in San Francisco, more than one thousand architects and engineers signed a petition demanding that Congress begin a new investigation into the destruction of the World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11. That's right, these people put their reputations in potential jeopardy because they don't buy the government's version of events. They want to know how 200,000 tons of steel disintegrated and fell to the ground in 11 seconds. They question whether the hijacked planes were responsible – or whether it could have been a controlled demolition from inside that brought down the twin towers and Building 7. Richard Gage, a member of the American Institute of Architects and the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, put it like this: "The official Federal Emergency Management [Agency] and National Institute of Standards and Technology reports provide insufficient, contradictory and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction." He's especially disturbed by Building 7, whose 47 stories came down in "pure free-fall acceleration" that afternoon – even though it was never hit by an aircraft. This is a subject I take up in my new book, American Conspiracies, published this week by Skyhorse. An excerpt follows: Some people have argued that the twin towers went down, within a half hour of one another, because of the way they were constructed. Well, those 425,000 cubic yards of concrete and 200,000 tons of steel were designed to hold up against a Boeing 707, the largest plane built at the time the towers were completed in 1973. Analysis had shown that a 707 traveling at 600 miles an hour (and those had four engines) would not cause major damage. The twin-engine Boeing 757s that hit on 9/11 were going 440 and 550 miles an hour. Still, we are told that a molten, highly intense fuel mixture from the planes brought down these two steel-framed skyscrapers. Keep in mind that no other such skyscraper in history had ever been known to collapse completely due to fire damage. So could it actually have been the result of a controlled demolition from inside the buildings? I don't claim expertise about this, but I did work four years as part of the Navy's underwater demolition teams, where we were trained to blow things to hell and high water. And my staff talked at some length with a prominent physicist, Steven E. Jones, who says that a "gravity driven collapse" without demolition charges defies the laws of physics. These buildings fell, at nearly the rate of free-fall, straight down into their own footprint, in approximately ten seconds. An object dropped from the roof of the 110-story-tall towers would reach the ground in about 9.2 seconds. Then there's the fact that steel beams that weighed as much as 200,000 pounds got tossed laterally as far as 500 feet. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) started its investigation on August 21, 2002. When their 10,000-page-long report came out three years later, the spokesman said there was no evidence to suggest a controlled demolition. But Steven E. Jones also says that molten metal found underground weeks later is proof that jet fuel couldn't have been all that was responsible. I visited the site about three weeks after 9/11, with Governor Pataki and my wife Terry. It didn't mean anything to me at the time, but they had to suspend digging that day because they were running into heat pockets of huge temperatures. These fires kept burning for more than three months, the longest-burning structure blaze ever. And this was all due to jet fuel? We're talking molten metal more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Probably the most conclusive evidence about a controlled demolition is a research paper (two years, nine authors) published in the peer-reviewed Open Chemical Physics Journal, in April 2009. In studying dust samples from the site, these scientists found chips of nano-thermite, which is a high-tech incendiary/explosive. Here's what the paper's lead author, Dr. Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen's chemistry department, had to say about the explosive that he's convinced brought down the Twin Towers and the nearby Building 7: "Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 degrees Centigrade. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel." Richard Gage is one of hundreds of credentialed architects and structural engineers who have put their careers on the line to point out the detailed anomalies and many implications of controlled demolition in the building collapses. As he puts it bluntly: "Once you get to the science, it's indisputable." If we do not get the truth this may well happen again and be done by the same criminals that still walk free today. http://rt.com/Politics/2010-03-10/jesse-ventura-911-truth.html?utm_source=2leep&utm_medium=2leep&utm_campaign=2leep this stuff is ridiculous.. it makes people alot of money, but the theories are just that... theories.. WHO is making money off this??? LOL...the MIC made the money off of this as well as the GOP who gained politically when they scared Americans into supporting illegal wars against people who did not attack us on 9-11...egads. Those who believe the 9-11 Commission's report are either suffering from cognitive dissonance or are just really really ignorant...oh, and those who refuse to give the red, white and blue a black eye. We deserve that black eye and should own it...so maybe it won't happen again. More here from yet another credible organization: ![]() http://cms.ae911truth.org/ People that write books and give speeches make money. I didn't realize that was a hard concept to grasp. I have spent hours looking over the AE website.. There is nothing there. I have read Harrit's report and I have to admit, it's pretty surprising that a so called credible scientist would use samples that were given to him after 6 years. In the real world, no one would accept such samples since there is no way to prove who actually acquired them, what type of environment they were stored in, and who has touched them. Random dust off peoples ledges.. I would stake my reputation on that..LMAO And.... In his conclusion he doesn't say that samples actually, incontrovertibly, or even remotely can be proven to be thermite, let alone the phantom NANO thermite. He says "These observations reminded us of nano-thermite fabricated at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and elsewhere." Doesn't say he can prove it or that it actually is.. It reminds him of it.. hardly a definitive work.. Sooo, people who wanted to write books got some Arabs to fly planes into buildings? C'mon, look at the whole picture as to who would gain the most. I'd rather believe that 9-11 was as reported...but it just ain't possible. I have flown an actual Falcon Jet simulator as well as PC ones...back in 1990 it took me 4 tries to hit the Sears Tower in the Falcon...try reading the Pilots for 9-11 Truth site a bit...these guys were rookies and not able to accurately fly planes into the buildings, that's obvious..plus a few of them are STILL ALIVE..one is a pilot for an airline. Egads, so many people who are shooting from the hip here... No one answers as to why OBL is not wanted for the attacks. And of the samples...why didn't authorities test the dust...speaking the dust why did the concrete pulverize into dust? WHY? There's only ONE logical answer to this...the buildings were rigged to explode..there is no other logical reason. It defies physics. Why that was NOT investigated tells us a lot. Here are some great clues: ![]() This site is now at: http://911truth.org/ People pushing the theory that the official story is a lie are writing books, making movies and giving speeches. Thermite is a low explosive. It burns, it does not detonate. Its used by demolition companies to cut steel before the high explosives are detonated. Thermite is very volatile and once the reaction starts there is no stopping or controlling it.. You want me to believe that thermite was placed in the exact spots that the building began its collapse, yet didn't start to react when the fires started after the planes hit? Are you serious? Not to mention that for thermite to be effective in creating the collapse at so called freefall speed you would need a couple thousand tons to be placed in precise locations. This thermite theory is so obviously flawed. For it to still be considered the alternative version is pretty pathetic. Even with that said, I don't care if people question the official story. There are details that don't add up, but it is not in relation to the towers collapsing or what supposedly caused it. |
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Nothing you say is gonna get it thru their thick skulls ... they're Kool-Aid drinkers ...
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Edited by
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Sun 09/05/10 04:23 PM
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As the WTCs fell one at a time I sat in amazement that no one was asking if the terrorist had planted bombs in the buildings. There is absolutley no way that steel and concrete buildings would fall at near free-fall speed into their own footprints. No resistances to them falling what-so-ever. There had to be bombs in the building. The WTC's cement turned to dust right in front of us all yet we ignore that the plane's damages cause could not do that. It's just impossible. ![]() For some, the search for what happened on 9/11 isn't over "Jesse Ventura's new book American Conspiracies questions the government's position on 9/11. He wrote about the same topic on The Huffington Post, but his article was banned. Read it here on RT. You didn't see anything about it in the mainstream media, but two weeks ago at a conference in San Francisco, more than one thousand architects and engineers signed a petition demanding that Congress begin a new investigation into the destruction of the World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11. That's right, these people put their reputations in potential jeopardy because they don't buy the government's version of events. They want to know how 200,000 tons of steel disintegrated and fell to the ground in 11 seconds. They question whether the hijacked planes were responsible – or whether it could have been a controlled demolition from inside that brought down the twin towers and Building 7. Richard Gage, a member of the American Institute of Architects and the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, put it like this: "The official Federal Emergency Management [Agency] and National Institute of Standards and Technology reports provide insufficient, contradictory and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction." He's especially disturbed by Building 7, whose 47 stories came down in "pure free-fall acceleration" that afternoon – even though it was never hit by an aircraft. This is a subject I take up in my new book, American Conspiracies, published this week by Skyhorse. An excerpt follows: Some people have argued that the twin towers went down, within a half hour of one another, because of the way they were constructed. Well, those 425,000 cubic yards of concrete and 200,000 tons of steel were designed to hold up against a Boeing 707, the largest plane built at the time the towers were completed in 1973. Analysis had shown that a 707 traveling at 600 miles an hour (and those had four engines) would not cause major damage. The twin-engine Boeing 757s that hit on 9/11 were going 440 and 550 miles an hour. Still, we are told that a molten, highly intense fuel mixture from the planes brought down these two steel-framed skyscrapers. Keep in mind that no other such skyscraper in history had ever been known to collapse completely due to fire damage. So could it actually have been the result of a controlled demolition from inside the buildings? I don't claim expertise about this, but I did work four years as part of the Navy's underwater demolition teams, where we were trained to blow things to hell and high water. And my staff talked at some length with a prominent physicist, Steven E. Jones, who says that a "gravity driven collapse" without demolition charges defies the laws of physics. These buildings fell, at nearly the rate of free-fall, straight down into their own footprint, in approximately ten seconds. An object dropped from the roof of the 110-story-tall towers would reach the ground in about 9.2 seconds. Then there's the fact that steel beams that weighed as much as 200,000 pounds got tossed laterally as far as 500 feet. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) started its investigation on August 21, 2002. When their 10,000-page-long report came out three years later, the spokesman said there was no evidence to suggest a controlled demolition. But Steven E. Jones also says that molten metal found underground weeks later is proof that jet fuel couldn't have been all that was responsible. I visited the site about three weeks after 9/11, with Governor Pataki and my wife Terry. It didn't mean anything to me at the time, but they had to suspend digging that day because they were running into heat pockets of huge temperatures. These fires kept burning for more than three months, the longest-burning structure blaze ever. And this was all due to jet fuel? We're talking molten metal more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Probably the most conclusive evidence about a controlled demolition is a research paper (two years, nine authors) published in the peer-reviewed Open Chemical Physics Journal, in April 2009. In studying dust samples from the site, these scientists found chips of nano-thermite, which is a high-tech incendiary/explosive. Here's what the paper's lead author, Dr. Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen's chemistry department, had to say about the explosive that he's convinced brought down the Twin Towers and the nearby Building 7: "Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 degrees Centigrade. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel." Richard Gage is one of hundreds of credentialed architects and structural engineers who have put their careers on the line to point out the detailed anomalies and many implications of controlled demolition in the building collapses. As he puts it bluntly: "Once you get to the science, it's indisputable." If we do not get the truth this may well happen again and be done by the same criminals that still walk free today. http://rt.com/Politics/2010-03-10/jesse-ventura-911-truth.html?utm_source=2leep&utm_medium=2leep&utm_campaign=2leep this stuff is ridiculous.. it makes people alot of money, but the theories are just that... theories.. WHO is making money off this??? LOL...the MIC made the money off of this as well as the GOP who gained politically when they scared Americans into supporting illegal wars against people who did not attack us on 9-11...egads. Those who believe the 9-11 Commission's report are either suffering from cognitive dissonance or are just really really ignorant...oh, and those who refuse to give the red, white and blue a black eye. We deserve that black eye and should own it...so maybe it won't happen again. More here from yet another credible organization: ![]() http://cms.ae911truth.org/ People that write books and give speeches make money. I didn't realize that was a hard concept to grasp. I have spent hours looking over the AE website.. There is nothing there. I have read Harrit's report and I have to admit, it's pretty surprising that a so called credible scientist would use samples that were given to him after 6 years. In the real world, no one would accept such samples since there is no way to prove who actually acquired them, what type of environment they were stored in, and who has touched them. Random dust off peoples ledges.. I would stake my reputation on that..LMAO And.... In his conclusion he doesn't say that samples actually, incontrovertibly, or even remotely can be proven to be thermite, let alone the phantom NANO thermite. He says "These observations reminded us of nano-thermite fabricated at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and elsewhere." Doesn't say he can prove it or that it actually is.. It reminds him of it.. hardly a definitive work.. Sooo, people who wanted to write books got some Arabs to fly planes into buildings? C'mon, look at the whole picture as to who would gain the most. I'd rather believe that 9-11 was as reported...but it just ain't possible. I have flown an actual Falcon Jet simulator as well as PC ones...back in 1990 it took me 4 tries to hit the Sears Tower in the Falcon...try reading the Pilots for 9-11 Truth site a bit...these guys were rookies and not able to accurately fly planes into the buildings, that's obvious..plus a few of them are STILL ALIVE..one is a pilot for an airline. Egads, so many people who are shooting from the hip here... No one answers as to why OBL is not wanted for the attacks. And of the samples...why didn't authorities test the dust...speaking the dust why did the concrete pulverize into dust? WHY? There's only ONE logical answer to this...the buildings were rigged to explode..there is no other logical reason. It defies physics. Why that was NOT investigated tells us a lot. Here are some great clues: ![]() This site is now at: http://911truth.org/ People pushing the theory that the official story is a lie are writing books, making movies and giving speeches. Thermite is a low explosive. It burns, it does not detonate. Its used by demolition companies to cut steel before the high explosives are detonated. Thermite is very volatile and once the reaction starts there is no stopping or controlling it.. You want me to believe that thermite was placed in the exact spots that the building began its collapse, yet didn't start to react when the fires started after the planes hit? Are you serious? Not to mention that for thermite to be effective in creating the collapse at so called freefall speed you would need a couple thousand tons to be placed in precise locations. This thermite theory is so obviously flawed. For it to still be considered the alternative version is pretty pathetic. Even with that said, I don't care if people question the official story. There are details that don't add up, but it is not in relation to the towers collapsing or what supposedly caused it. Uh, it was military grade nano thermite...highly explosive and melts steel quickly, it also slices steel...there are many types of thermite. "It is a collective name of substances with high levels of energy" http://radicalfilms.co.uk/2009/04/13/scientists-find-military-grade-explosives-in-wtc-dust/ But your argument does not solve how concrete turned to dust in seconds...and buildings free fell into their own foot prints. Not even close dude. Sure wish we'd have a true investigation, would love to see that. Until then all I get is speculation in denials and people avoiding the questions that perplex them... |
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I see Jesse is off his meds again. They guy is a proven liar.
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Nothing you say is gonna get it thru their thick skulls ... they're Kool-Aid drinkers ... I know. I would be willing to bet that 90% of the so called architects and engineers that support Gage's site are Bush haters. The reality of 9-11 truth is that they want people to think that Bush ordered it. It's obviously political, because the "scientific evidence" is laughable. |
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As the WTCs fell one at a time I sat in amazement that no one was asking if the terrorist had planted bombs in the buildings. There is absolutley no way that steel and concrete buildings would fall at near free-fall speed into their own footprints. No resistances to them falling what-so-ever. There had to be bombs in the building. The WTC's cement turned to dust right in front of us all yet we ignore that the plane's damages cause could not do that. It's just impossible. ![]() For some, the search for what happened on 9/11 isn't over "Jesse Ventura's new book American Conspiracies questions the government's position on 9/11. He wrote about the same topic on The Huffington Post, but his article was banned. Read it here on RT. You didn't see anything about it in the mainstream media, but two weeks ago at a conference in San Francisco, more than one thousand architects and engineers signed a petition demanding that Congress begin a new investigation into the destruction of the World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11. That's right, these people put their reputations in potential jeopardy because they don't buy the government's version of events. They want to know how 200,000 tons of steel disintegrated and fell to the ground in 11 seconds. They question whether the hijacked planes were responsible – or whether it could have been a controlled demolition from inside that brought down the twin towers and Building 7. Richard Gage, a member of the American Institute of Architects and the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, put it like this: "The official Federal Emergency Management [Agency] and National Institute of Standards and Technology reports provide insufficient, contradictory and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction." He's especially disturbed by Building 7, whose 47 stories came down in "pure free-fall acceleration" that afternoon – even though it was never hit by an aircraft. This is a subject I take up in my new book, American Conspiracies, published this week by Skyhorse. An excerpt follows: Some people have argued that the twin towers went down, within a half hour of one another, because of the way they were constructed. Well, those 425,000 cubic yards of concrete and 200,000 tons of steel were designed to hold up against a Boeing 707, the largest plane built at the time the towers were completed in 1973. Analysis had shown that a 707 traveling at 600 miles an hour (and those had four engines) would not cause major damage. The twin-engine Boeing 757s that hit on 9/11 were going 440 and 550 miles an hour. Still, we are told that a molten, highly intense fuel mixture from the planes brought down these two steel-framed skyscrapers. Keep in mind that no other such skyscraper in history had ever been known to collapse completely due to fire damage. So could it actually have been the result of a controlled demolition from inside the buildings? I don't claim expertise about this, but I did work four years as part of the Navy's underwater demolition teams, where we were trained to blow things to hell and high water. And my staff talked at some length with a prominent physicist, Steven E. Jones, who says that a "gravity driven collapse" without demolition charges defies the laws of physics. These buildings fell, at nearly the rate of free-fall, straight down into their own footprint, in approximately ten seconds. An object dropped from the roof of the 110-story-tall towers would reach the ground in about 9.2 seconds. Then there's the fact that steel beams that weighed as much as 200,000 pounds got tossed laterally as far as 500 feet. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) started its investigation on August 21, 2002. When their 10,000-page-long report came out three years later, the spokesman said there was no evidence to suggest a controlled demolition. But Steven E. Jones also says that molten metal found underground weeks later is proof that jet fuel couldn't have been all that was responsible. I visited the site about three weeks after 9/11, with Governor Pataki and my wife Terry. It didn't mean anything to me at the time, but they had to suspend digging that day because they were running into heat pockets of huge temperatures. These fires kept burning for more than three months, the longest-burning structure blaze ever. And this was all due to jet fuel? We're talking molten metal more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Probably the most conclusive evidence about a controlled demolition is a research paper (two years, nine authors) published in the peer-reviewed Open Chemical Physics Journal, in April 2009. In studying dust samples from the site, these scientists found chips of nano-thermite, which is a high-tech incendiary/explosive. Here's what the paper's lead author, Dr. Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen's chemistry department, had to say about the explosive that he's convinced brought down the Twin Towers and the nearby Building 7: "Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 degrees Centigrade. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel." Richard Gage is one of hundreds of credentialed architects and structural engineers who have put their careers on the line to point out the detailed anomalies and many implications of controlled demolition in the building collapses. As he puts it bluntly: "Once you get to the science, it's indisputable." If we do not get the truth this may well happen again and be done by the same criminals that still walk free today. http://rt.com/Politics/2010-03-10/jesse-ventura-911-truth.html?utm_source=2leep&utm_medium=2leep&utm_campaign=2leep this stuff is ridiculous.. it makes people alot of money, but the theories are just that... theories.. WHO is making money off this??? LOL...the MIC made the money off of this as well as the GOP who gained politically when they scared Americans into supporting illegal wars against people who did not attack us on 9-11...egads. Those who believe the 9-11 Commission's report are either suffering from cognitive dissonance or are just really really ignorant...oh, and those who refuse to give the red, white and blue a black eye. We deserve that black eye and should own it...so maybe it won't happen again. More here from yet another credible organization: ![]() http://cms.ae911truth.org/ People that write books and give speeches make money. I didn't realize that was a hard concept to grasp. I have spent hours looking over the AE website.. There is nothing there. I have read Harrit's report and I have to admit, it's pretty surprising that a so called credible scientist would use samples that were given to him after 6 years. In the real world, no one would accept such samples since there is no way to prove who actually acquired them, what type of environment they were stored in, and who has touched them. Random dust off peoples ledges.. I would stake my reputation on that..LMAO And.... In his conclusion he doesn't say that samples actually, incontrovertibly, or even remotely can be proven to be thermite, let alone the phantom NANO thermite. He says "These observations reminded us of nano-thermite fabricated at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and elsewhere." Doesn't say he can prove it or that it actually is.. It reminds him of it.. hardly a definitive work.. Sooo, people who wanted to write books got some Arabs to fly planes into buildings? C'mon, look at the whole picture as to who would gain the most. I'd rather believe that 9-11 was as reported...but it just ain't possible. I have flown an actual Falcon Jet simulator as well as PC ones...back in 1990 it took me 4 tries to hit the Sears Tower in the Falcon...try reading the Pilots for 9-11 Truth site a bit...these guys were rookies and not able to accurately fly planes into the buildings, that's obvious..plus a few of them are STILL ALIVE..one is a pilot for an airline. Egads, so many people who are shooting from the hip here... No one answers as to why OBL is not wanted for the attacks. And of the samples...why didn't authorities test the dust...speaking the dust why did the concrete pulverize into dust? WHY? There's only ONE logical answer to this...the buildings were rigged to explode..there is no other logical reason. It defies physics. Why that was NOT investigated tells us a lot. Here are some great clues: ![]() This site is now at: http://911truth.org/ People pushing the theory that the official story is a lie are writing books, making movies and giving speeches. Thermite is a low explosive. It burns, it does not detonate. Its used by demolition companies to cut steel before the high explosives are detonated. Thermite is very volatile and once the reaction starts there is no stopping or controlling it.. You want me to believe that thermite was placed in the exact spots that the building began its collapse, yet didn't start to react when the fires started after the planes hit? Are you serious? Not to mention that for thermite to be effective in creating the collapse at so called freefall speed you would need a couple thousand tons to be placed in precise locations. This thermite theory is so obviously flawed. For it to still be considered the alternative version is pretty pathetic. Even with that said, I don't care if people question the official story. There are details that don't add up, but it is not in relation to the towers collapsing or what supposedly caused it. Uh, it was military grade nano thermite...highly explosive and melts steel quickly, it also slices steel...there are many types of thermite. "It is a collective name of substances with high levels of energy" http://radicalfilms.co.uk/2009/04/13/scientists-find-military-grade-explosives-in-wtc-dust/ But your argument does not solve how concrete turned to dust in seconds...and buildings free fell into their own foot prints. Not even close dude. Sure wish we'd have a true investigation, would love to see that. Until then all I get is speculations and people avoiding the questions that perplex them... you haven't explained how a highly reactive low explosive didn't set off with the fires burning.. why use something elaborate like "military grade thermite" when c4 is obviously more common and can be exposed to fire without detonating prematurely? using exotic explosives is the easiest way to get caught. c4 is found throughout the world.. and if they knew they wouldn't thoroughly investigate why go to the trouble of using something that would be a smoking gun? you are the one that needs to think a little more about what is being propagated.. If the government was behind the attacks, they wouldn't use some sort of explosive that is only found within the government.. duh... |
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As the WTCs fell one at a time I sat in amazement that no one was asking if the terrorist had planted bombs in the buildings. There is absolutley no way that steel and concrete buildings would fall at near free-fall speed into their own footprints. No resistances to them falling what-so-ever. There had to be bombs in the building. The WTC's cement turned to dust right in front of us all yet we ignore that the plane's damages cause could not do that. It's just impossible. ![]() For some, the search for what happened on 9/11 isn't over "Jesse Ventura's new book American Conspiracies questions the government's position on 9/11. He wrote about the same topic on The Huffington Post, but his article was banned. Read it here on RT. You didn't see anything about it in the mainstream media, but two weeks ago at a conference in San Francisco, more than one thousand architects and engineers signed a petition demanding that Congress begin a new investigation into the destruction of the World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11. That's right, these people put their reputations in potential jeopardy because they don't buy the government's version of events. They want to know how 200,000 tons of steel disintegrated and fell to the ground in 11 seconds. They question whether the hijacked planes were responsible – or whether it could have been a controlled demolition from inside that brought down the twin towers and Building 7. Richard Gage, a member of the American Institute of Architects and the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, put it like this: "The official Federal Emergency Management [Agency] and National Institute of Standards and Technology reports provide insufficient, contradictory and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction." He's especially disturbed by Building 7, whose 47 stories came down in "pure free-fall acceleration" that afternoon – even though it was never hit by an aircraft. This is a subject I take up in my new book, American Conspiracies, published this week by Skyhorse. An excerpt follows: Some people have argued that the twin towers went down, within a half hour of one another, because of the way they were constructed. Well, those 425,000 cubic yards of concrete and 200,000 tons of steel were designed to hold up against a Boeing 707, the largest plane built at the time the towers were completed in 1973. Analysis had shown that a 707 traveling at 600 miles an hour (and those had four engines) would not cause major damage. The twin-engine Boeing 757s that hit on 9/11 were going 440 and 550 miles an hour. Still, we are told that a molten, highly intense fuel mixture from the planes brought down these two steel-framed skyscrapers. Keep in mind that no other such skyscraper in history had ever been known to collapse completely due to fire damage. So could it actually have been the result of a controlled demolition from inside the buildings? I don't claim expertise about this, but I did work four years as part of the Navy's underwater demolition teams, where we were trained to blow things to hell and high water. And my staff talked at some length with a prominent physicist, Steven E. Jones, who says that a "gravity driven collapse" without demolition charges defies the laws of physics. These buildings fell, at nearly the rate of free-fall, straight down into their own footprint, in approximately ten seconds. An object dropped from the roof of the 110-story-tall towers would reach the ground in about 9.2 seconds. Then there's the fact that steel beams that weighed as much as 200,000 pounds got tossed laterally as far as 500 feet. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) started its investigation on August 21, 2002. When their 10,000-page-long report came out three years later, the spokesman said there was no evidence to suggest a controlled demolition. But Steven E. Jones also says that molten metal found underground weeks later is proof that jet fuel couldn't have been all that was responsible. I visited the site about three weeks after 9/11, with Governor Pataki and my wife Terry. It didn't mean anything to me at the time, but they had to suspend digging that day because they were running into heat pockets of huge temperatures. These fires kept burning for more than three months, the longest-burning structure blaze ever. And this was all due to jet fuel? We're talking molten metal more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Probably the most conclusive evidence about a controlled demolition is a research paper (two years, nine authors) published in the peer-reviewed Open Chemical Physics Journal, in April 2009. In studying dust samples from the site, these scientists found chips of nano-thermite, which is a high-tech incendiary/explosive. Here's what the paper's lead author, Dr. Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen's chemistry department, had to say about the explosive that he's convinced brought down the Twin Towers and the nearby Building 7: "Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 degrees Centigrade. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel." Richard Gage is one of hundreds of credentialed architects and structural engineers who have put their careers on the line to point out the detailed anomalies and many implications of controlled demolition in the building collapses. As he puts it bluntly: "Once you get to the science, it's indisputable." If we do not get the truth this may well happen again and be done by the same criminals that still walk free today. http://rt.com/Politics/2010-03-10/jesse-ventura-911-truth.html?utm_source=2leep&utm_medium=2leep&utm_campaign=2leep this stuff is ridiculous.. it makes people alot of money, but the theories are just that... theories.. WHO is making money off this??? LOL...the MIC made the money off of this as well as the GOP who gained politically when they scared Americans into supporting illegal wars against people who did not attack us on 9-11...egads. Those who believe the 9-11 Commission's report are either suffering from cognitive dissonance or are just really really ignorant...oh, and those who refuse to give the red, white and blue a black eye. We deserve that black eye and should own it...so maybe it won't happen again. More here from yet another credible organization: ![]() http://cms.ae911truth.org/ People that write books and give speeches make money. I didn't realize that was a hard concept to grasp. I have spent hours looking over the AE website.. There is nothing there. I have read Harrit's report and I have to admit, it's pretty surprising that a so called credible scientist would use samples that were given to him after 6 years. In the real world, no one would accept such samples since there is no way to prove who actually acquired them, what type of environment they were stored in, and who has touched them. Random dust off peoples ledges.. I would stake my reputation on that..LMAO And.... In his conclusion he doesn't say that samples actually, incontrovertibly, or even remotely can be proven to be thermite, let alone the phantom NANO thermite. He says "These observations reminded us of nano-thermite fabricated at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and elsewhere." Doesn't say he can prove it or that it actually is.. It reminds him of it.. hardly a definitive work.. Sooo, people who wanted to write books got some Arabs to fly planes into buildings? C'mon, look at the whole picture as to who would gain the most. I'd rather believe that 9-11 was as reported...but it just ain't possible. I have flown an actual Falcon Jet simulator as well as PC ones...back in 1990 it took me 4 tries to hit the Sears Tower in the Falcon...try reading the Pilots for 9-11 Truth site a bit...these guys were rookies and not able to accurately fly planes into the buildings, that's obvious..plus a few of them are STILL ALIVE..one is a pilot for an airline. Egads, so many people who are shooting from the hip here... No one answers as to why OBL is not wanted for the attacks. And of the samples...why didn't authorities test the dust...speaking the dust why did the concrete pulverize into dust? WHY? There's only ONE logical answer to this...the buildings were rigged to explode..there is no other logical reason. It defies physics. Why that was NOT investigated tells us a lot. Here are some great clues: ![]() This site is now at: http://911truth.org/ People pushing the theory that the official story is a lie are writing books, making movies and giving speeches. Thermite is a low explosive. It burns, it does not detonate. Its used by demolition companies to cut steel before the high explosives are detonated. Thermite is very volatile and once the reaction starts there is no stopping or controlling it.. You want me to believe that thermite was placed in the exact spots that the building began its collapse, yet didn't start to react when the fires started after the planes hit? Are you serious? Not to mention that for thermite to be effective in creating the collapse at so called freefall speed you would need a couple thousand tons to be placed in precise locations. This thermite theory is so obviously flawed. For it to still be considered the alternative version is pretty pathetic. Even with that said, I don't care if people question the official story. There are details that don't add up, but it is not in relation to the towers collapsing or what supposedly caused it. Uh, it was military grade nano thermite...highly explosive and melts steel quickly, it also slices steel...there are many types of thermite. "It is a collective name of substances with high levels of energy" http://radicalfilms.co.uk/2009/04/13/scientists-find-military-grade-explosives-in-wtc-dust/ But your argument does not solve how concrete turned to dust in seconds...and buildings free fell into their own foot prints. Not even close dude. Sure wish we'd have a true investigation, would love to see that. Until then all I get is speculations and people avoiding the questions that perplex them... you haven't explained how a highly reactive low explosive didn't set off with the fires burning.. why use something elaborate like "military grade thermite" when c4 is obviously more common and can be exposed to fire without detonating prematurely? using exotic explosives is the easiest way to get caught. c4 is found throughout the world.. and if they knew they wouldn't thoroughly investigate why go to the trouble of using something that would be a smoking gun? you are the one that needs to think a little more about what is being propagated.. If the government was behind the attacks, they wouldn't use some sort of explosive that is only found within the government.. duh... It'd be easy for the government to have used a specific and unique type of explosive...because they never intended to test for it anyway. The crime scene was not treated like a crime scene, they immediately started cleaning it, imploding the other WTCs that did not fall....because they were not rigged with explosives. After 9-11 they shipped the WTC's shredded steel overseas...basically selling off the evidence. "1. A few short weeks after 9/11, tons of metal from the collapsed twin towers was sold to scrap yards in New Jersey. Thereafter, the steel was re-sold to other recyclers in the United States and overseas. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the “scrap” has ended up in India, Japan, South Korea, China and Malaysia. It is the FSC’s position that the thousands of pounds of debris was crime-scene evidence. It should have been examined, catalogued, and stored in a secure location. Why were the steel beams sold and shipped overseas and not retained as evidence? Was the material examined before it was sent overseas? If examined, then by whom? Were any diagnostic studies/tests performed? If not, then why? Whose responsibility was this? Former FBI Acting Director Thomas Pickard said that the FBI wanted to take over Ground Zero and make it a crime scene as was done at the Pentagon. If that had occurred all materials from the scene would have been protected until an investigation was complete. Pickard also stated that you, Mayor Giuliani, would not allow the FBI access to the pit area. Is this accurate? If so, then what was your reason for keeping the nation’s chief investigatory team—the FBI, out of Ground Zero?" http://911independentcommission.org/giuliani31804.html Check sir... |
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Jesse Ventura has lied about several aspects of his life, including his military service. Hell, he could barely keep a job in the WWF since he kept getting suspended then finally fired. He's an idiot and anyone that believes anything he says seriously needs some help.
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