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Topic: obama "no regrets" lol
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Wed 08/18/10 04:44 PM

obama trying to backtrack without seeming like he is...
wants them votes don't he
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Columbus, Ohio (CNN) -- President Obama said Wednesday that he has "no regrets" about his comments last week supporting the rights of Muslims to build an Islamic center and mosque two blocks from the site of the September 11 terror attacks in New York.

"The answer is no regrets," Obama said when asked about bringing up the issue Friday at a White House dinner commemorating the start of Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

At the dinner, Obama said that those wanting to build the Islamic center and mosque have the constitutional right to religious freedom. On Saturday, he clarified that he was talking only about the right to build the center and not the "wisdom" of doing so close to "ground zero," where more than 2,700 people died when planes hijacked by terrorists slammed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center.

The remarks sparked a national debate on the emotional issue, with many Republicans condemning the president as insensitive to families of victims and out of touch with the views of most Americans.


Many Democrats responded that the right to religious freedom applies to all Americans, though some -- including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid -- said they oppose having the Islamic center so close to ground zero.

A CNN poll showed that 70 percent of respondents opposed having an Islamic center near the site. A separate poll released Wednesday by the Siena Research Institute found that 63 percent opposed it, but 64 percent said the center's developers have a constitutional right to build it.
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Wed 08/18/10 05:17 PM
The fact that this is even a headline story shows how screwed up politics and journalists are when there are far more pressing news stories to be told.
What a freak show event this has turned out to be. Islamophobe racists make me giggle.

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Wed 08/18/10 05:20 PM

The fact that this is even a headline story shows how screwed up politics and journalists are when there are far more pressing news stories to be told.
What a freak show event this has turned out to be. Islamophobe racists make me giggle.


pissing people makes the news.... that's why he's always in the news

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Wed 08/18/10 05:25 PM
Uhhhh, 'news flash' time:

He's jes' doin' what he SAID he was gonna do in that book o' his that Little Billy Ayers ghost-wrote for him - that 'Screams Of My Father' thingie ...

He SAID that when the schit hit the fan ... "I will stand with the muslims" ... the blades are turnin' pretty damned fast right now, and look at his response ... he's 'standin' with the muslims' ... Why is ANYone surprised ... ? He's just keepin' an election promise to his base ...

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Wed 08/18/10 05:28 PM
I'll say it again, it's not about religious freedom, it's about respect.

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Wed 08/18/10 05:32 PM

I'll say it again, it's not about religious freedom, it's about respect.


if it's all about respect, why aren't the muslins showing any? if the people have said they don't want it THERE, why can't the muslims move it? we are the only people that have to show respect?

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Wed 08/18/10 05:37 PM
Edited by Peccy on Wed 08/18/10 05:39 PM


I'll say it again, it's not about religious freedom, it's about respect.


if it's all about respect, why aren't the muslins showing any? if the people have said they don't want it THERE, why can't the muslims move it? we are the only people that have to show respect?
whoa dude.........lol............I'm on the "I don't want it there" side of this debate....I meant respect for everyone in the towers, not respect for the ones that want a mosque there

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Wed 08/18/10 05:39 PM



I'll say it again, it's not about religious freedom, it's about respect.


if it's all about respect, why aren't the muslins showing any? if the people have said they don't want it THERE, why can't the muslims move it? we are the only people that have to show respect?
whoa dude.........lol............I'm on the "I don't want it there" side of this debate


oh... i musta misread...sorry

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Wed 08/18/10 05:41 PM
nada prob moe, it's a touchy subject

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Wed 08/18/10 05:46 PM
There is no disrespect for the survivors of the tower unless they are prejudice against Muslims since Muslims didn't do 9/11, terrorists did.

If we are going to hold the religion of all terrorists against all the rest of those who practice the same religion then we have to obliterate Christianity from these here United States because we have had our share of Christian terrorists here.

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Wed 08/18/10 05:58 PM

There is no disrespect for the survivors of the tower unless they are prejudice against Muslims since Muslims didn't do 9/11, terrorists did.

If we are going to hold the religion of all terrorists against all the rest of those who practice the same religion then we have to obliterate Christianity from these here United States because we have had our share of Christian terrorists here.
fine with me...........I'm atheist

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Wed 08/18/10 06:00 PM
Edited by Peccy on Wed 08/18/10 06:01 PM


There is no disrespect for the survivors of the tower unless they are prejudice against Muslims since Muslims didn't do 9/11, terrorists did.

If we are going to hold the religion of all terrorists against all the rest of those who practice the same religion then we have to obliterate Christianity from these here United States because we have had our share of Christian terrorists here.
fine with me...........I'm atheist....but still Christians didn't go there and obliterate a landmark and kill 3000+

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Wed 08/18/10 06:03 PM
See also: Anti-abortion violence in the United States
Ku Klux Klan with a burning cross
The End. Victoriously slaying Catholic influence in the U.S. Illustration by Rev. Branford Clarke from Klansmen: Guardians of Liberty 1926 by Bishop Alma White published by the Pillar of Fire Church in Zarephath, NJ.

Beginning in the late nineteenth century, white supremacist Ku Klux Klan members in the Southern United States engaged in arson, beatings, cross burning, destruction of property, lynching, murder, rape, tar-and-feathering, and whipping against African Americans, Jews, Catholics and other social or ethnic minorities.[36]

During the twentieth century, members of extremist groups such as the Army of God began executing attacks against abortion clinics and doctors across the United States.[37][38][39] A number of terrorist attacks, including the Centennial Olympic Park bombing during the 1996 Summer Olympics by Eric Robert Rudolph, were accused of being carried out by individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements; including the Lambs of Christ.[40]:105–120[41][42] A group called Concerned Christians were deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999, believing that their deaths would "lead them to heaven."[43][44] The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on May 31, 2009 was religious.[45]

Hutaree was a Christian militia group based in Adrian, Michigan. In 2010, after an FBI agent infiltrated the group, nine of its members were indicted by a federal grand jury in Detroit on charges of seditious conspiracy to use of improvised explosive devices, teaching the use of explosive materials, and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence.[46]

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Wed 08/18/10 06:07 PM
Christian Extremism Is Undermining America

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The death of Dr. George Tiller, while ghastly, comes as no surprise, as the past 28 years have seen an increase in ‘normalization’ of Christian extremism and a refusal by both the media and government to confront violent Christian fundamentalism. Yet a majority of the most horrific domestic terrorism and international war crimes committed by Americans have been done under the guise of Evangelical Christianity. An incomplete list:

• Eric Rudolph, who was motivated by his Catholicism to end the ‘abortion holocaust’, bombed the 1996 Atlanta Olympics, several abortion clinics, and a gay/lesbian club in Atlanta.

• The Oklahoma City Bombing, the largest act of domestic terrorism in America’s history, was executed by survivalist and right-wing militia member Timothy McVeigh.

• In 2003, while lobbying leaders to put together the Coalition of the Willing, President Bush spoke to France’s President Jacques Chirac. Bush wove a story about how the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East and how they must be defeated. Bush told Chirac, “This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins”. [source]

• Then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld presented intelligence and defense reports on Iraq and Afghanistan to George W. Bush with cover pages dedicated to ‘militaristic passages of the Bible’:

Former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld routinely used militaristic passages from the Bible on the cover pages of White House intelligence documents, according to new revelations by GQ magazine….

One republished on the GQ website came from March 31, 2003, showing a US tank roaring through the desert about 10 days after the United States invaded Iraq to topple the regime of Saddam Hussein. Over the image was printed a verse from Ephesians: “Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.”

[source 1, 2]

• During the invasion of Iraq in 2003, President Bush told several people that “‘I am driven with a mission from God’. God would tell me, ‘George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan’. And I did. And then God would tell me ‘George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq’. And I did.” [source]

• Evangelical Christians in the military were caught distributing Bibles to Afghanis [source]

• All told, there have been over 600,000 civilians dead in Iraq and 80,000 civilians dead in Afghanistan, which have been viewed as little more than modern-day Christian crusades by the predominately Muslim victims [source]

And yet there has been a complete unwillingness to brand what a significant portion of Americans identify with as dangerous or extremist. But for American democracy to thrive as it was envisioned — equitable, just, and secular — the growing force of Christian radicalism must be confronted in American society.

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Wed 08/18/10 06:07 PM



There is no disrespect for the survivors of the tower unless they are prejudice against Muslims since Muslims didn't do 9/11, terrorists did.

If we are going to hold the religion of all terrorists against all the rest of those who practice the same religion then we have to obliterate Christianity from these here United States because we have had our share of Christian terrorists here.
fine with me...........I'm atheist....but still Christians didn't go there and obliterate a landmark and kill 3000+ also, just curious.....if they weren't muslim what were they? Let me guess the same BS that makes people African-american, muslim-american, etc. If they were born here they are AMERICAN! Since when did being just american become a bad thing?


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Wed 08/18/10 06:10 PM
oooooo........copy and paste.............use some original thought. hey I'm drunk ........... lol. I mean no disrespect!

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Wed 08/18/10 06:10 PM




There is no disrespect for the survivors of the tower unless they are prejudice against Muslims since Muslims didn't do 9/11, terrorists did.

If we are going to hold the religion of all terrorists against all the rest of those who practice the same religion then we have to obliterate Christianity from these here United States because we have had our share of Christian terrorists here.
fine with me...........I'm atheist....but still Christians didn't go there and obliterate a landmark and kill 3000+ also, just curious.....if they weren't muslim what were they? Let me guess the same BS that makes people African-american, muslim-american, etc. If they were born here they are AMERICAN! Since when did being just american become a bad thing?




Their religion is irrelevant since they are terrorists. Terrorist come in a all religions.

A terrorist is a terrorist regardless.

Look at the Christian terrorists in this country, yet I don't see an issue with a Christian church being built anywhere.

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Wed 08/18/10 06:15 PM


obama trying to backtrack without seeming like he is...
wants them votes don't he
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Columbus, Ohio (CNN) -- President Obama said Wednesday that he has "no regrets" about his comments last week supporting the rights of Muslims to build an Islamic center and mosque two blocks from the site of the September 11 terror attacks in New York.

"The answer is no regrets," Obama said when asked about bringing up the issue Friday at a White House dinner commemorating the start of Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

At the dinner, Obama said that those wanting to build the Islamic center and mosque have the constitutional right to religious freedom. On Saturday, he clarified that he was talking only about the right to build the center and not the "wisdom" of doing so close to "ground zero," where more than 2,700 people died when planes hijacked by terrorists slammed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center.

The remarks sparked a national debate on the emotional issue, with many Republicans condemning the president as insensitive to families of victims and out of touch with the views of most Americans.


Many Democrats responded that the right to religious freedom applies to all Americans, though some -- including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid -- said they oppose having the Islamic center so close to ground zero.

A CNN poll showed that 70 percent of respondents opposed having an Islamic center near the site. A separate poll released Wednesday by the Siena Research Institute found that 63 percent opposed it, but 64 percent said the center's developers have a constitutional right to build it.
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Obama's ****ed harder then Ron Jeremy.

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Wed 08/18/10 06:26 PM
even though Ron Jeremy was nicknamed "The Hedgehog" please don't put Obamanator up there wqith him........lol

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Wed 08/18/10 06:30 PM





There is no disrespect for the survivors of the tower unless they are prejudice against Muslims since Muslims didn't do 9/11, terrorists did.

If we are going to hold the religion of all terrorists against all the rest of those who practice the same religion then we have to obliterate Christianity from these here United States because we have had our share of Christian terrorists here.
fine with me...........I'm atheist....but still Christians didn't go there and obliterate a landmark and kill 3000+ also, just curious.....if they weren't muslim what were they? Let me guess the same BS that makes people African-american, muslim-american, etc. If they were born here they are AMERICAN! Since when did being just american become a bad thing?




Their religion is irrelevant since they are terrorists. Terrorist come in a all religions.

A terrorist is a terrorist regardless.

Look at the Christian terrorists in this country, yet I don't see an issue with a Christian church being built anywhere.
why does this argument even involve religion? We were talking about the placement of a mosque, not allah or jesus. I don't give a flip what religion it offends, it's not right in my opinion.

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