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I don't know a whole lot about how this system is set up. I do know of one who gets 'welfare' right now and with her 2 children I know she receives 799.00 per month in cash. Her rent alone is 600,00 so I don't know how people think those who receive this are living so well. I've known her for 10 years and she always worked, received her child support and did ok...wasn't living in the lap of luxury by any means. I do know that she struggles and would much rather be back to work (she lost her job 8 months ago) and receiving her child support. When her ex lost his job he stopped the child support. She never has any money to play, go out or do anything but take care of her children. If she was able to find a way to take a weekend and go to a casino I wouldn't have any problem with it. She could use a break. But with housing and medical institutted, and utilities taken care of she could survive without cash.....I was stating taking cash away instituting housing utilities and food and creating a larger margin for more people to have medical in US. Collectively cash/welfare could be enough to institute that happening.........no check no rent of 600.00, and no utilities medical and food handled. What she worked for would or should be able to handle all else.....from gas to movies etc. And this is what I believe may be called socialism or communism. So is Welfare, FSP and Medical called socialism.....the US instutited a multi-dimensional government.....we are no longer what they call a capitalistic government......where have you been that you do not recognize these programs as socialism? |
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makes no sense at all...period.
defending them is absurd. its Welfare money drawn on a Welfare Account in a Gambling establishment. not a bank account,or a savings account. so your vacation theory is moot. and 2 pennies eyh? "quote" Casino withdrawals, which represented far less than 1% of total welfare spending during the eight months for which the department released data, averaged just over $227,392 a month. assume for a moment they are spending a 100 bucks apiece. we all know gamblers spend everything. so say what 400 a month? thats still 50,000 violaters per MONTH. but,as you imply,im Sure they are all on vacation..spending their 2 cents. |
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Edited by
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makes no sense at all...period. defending them is absurd. its Welfare money drawn on a Welfare Account in a Gambling establishment. not a bank account,or a savings account. so your vacation theory is moot. and 2 pennies eyh? "quote" Casino withdrawals, which represented far less than 1% of total welfare spending during the eight months for which the department released data, averaged just over $227,392 a month. assume for a moment they are spending a 100 bucks apiece. we all know gamblers spend everything. so say what 400 a month? thats still 50,000 violaters per MONTH. but,as you imply,im Sure they are all on vacation..spending their 2 cents. Another almost bull crap post here too. One, it is not all welfare money. EBT cards can OAP, SSI, SSDI, Etc. Some of which are programs that people have worked to get so really nobodies damn business. Second, considering the population of California, that amount of money is squat for people spending 20 -100 dollars. If they can manage to save that amount of money to go to the casino, it isn't anybodies damn business. If they are addicted, then just like all addicts they need to ask for help and get help but we cannot deny them benefits because of a human affliction like addiction. Hatemongering rhetoric always paints the down trodden of this country with an ugly brush of anti humanism. Not a good thing to buy into. Supporting others and allowing them the everyone owes me syndrome is a good thing to propel? And isnt welfare FSP and Medical, Socialism? |
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Edited by
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Fri 06/25/10 01:00 PM
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makes no sense at all...period. defending them is absurd. its Welfare money drawn on a Welfare Account in a Gambling establishment. not a bank account,or a savings account. so your vacation theory is moot. and 2 pennies eyh? "quote" Casino withdrawals, which represented far less than 1% of total welfare spending during the eight months for which the department released data, averaged just over $227,392 a month. assume for a moment they are spending a 100 bucks apiece. we all know gamblers spend everything. so say what 400 a month? thats still 50,000 violaters per MONTH. but,as you imply,im Sure they are all on vacation..spending their 2 cents. No defense at all. Another word for allowing folks to abuse a system could be called enabling. If they are looking to have the abusers pay back the money wasted at the casino, it shows abuse. Cut the abusers off. |
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makes no sense at all...period. defending them is absurd. its Welfare money drawn on a Welfare Account in a Gambling establishment. not a bank account,or a savings account. so your vacation theory is moot. and 2 pennies eyh? "quote" Casino withdrawals, which represented far less than 1% of total welfare spending during the eight months for which the department released data, averaged just over $227,392 a month. assume for a moment they are spending a 100 bucks apiece. we all know gamblers spend everything. so say what 400 a month? thats still 50,000 violaters per MONTH. but,as you imply,im Sure they are all on vacation..spending their 2 cents. Another almost bull crap post here too. One, it is not all welfare money. EBT cards can OAP, SSI, SSDI, Etc. Some of which are programs that people have worked to get so really nobodies damn business. Second, considering the population of California, that amount of money is squat for people spending 20 -100 dollars. If they can manage to save that amount of money to go to the casino, it isn't anybodies damn business. If they are addicted, then just like all addicts they need to ask for help and get help but we cannot deny them benefits because of a human affliction like addiction. Hatemongering rhetoric always paints the down trodden of this country with an ugly brush of anti humanism. Not a good thing to buy into. Supporting others and allowing them the everyone owes me syndrome is a good thing to propel? And isnt welfare FSP and Medical, Socialism? No socialism is when the government gets to tell you what to do with your money. There are people who are not on welfare who believe everyone owes me. That is a human issue that has nothing to do with welfare. The slogs who like to preach against welfare which include a bunch of racists like to portray all welfare and help program recipients as lazy and not wanting to work. It just isn't true. It is a way of spreading prejudice without being obvious with it. |
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I don't know a whole lot about how this system is set up. I do know of one who gets 'welfare' right now and with her 2 children I know she receives 799.00 per month in cash. Her rent alone is 600,00 so I don't know how people think those who receive this are living so well. I've known her for 10 years and she always worked, received her child support and did ok...wasn't living in the lap of luxury by any means. I do know that she struggles and would much rather be back to work (she lost her job 8 months ago) and receiving her child support. When her ex lost his job he stopped the child support. She never has any money to play, go out or do anything but take care of her children. If she was able to find a way to take a weekend and go to a casino I wouldn't have any problem with it. She could use a break. But with housing and medical institutted, and utilities taken care of she could survive without cash.....I was stating taking cash away instituting housing utilities and food and creating a larger margin for more people to have medical in US. Collectively cash/welfare could be enough to institute that happening.........no check no rent of 600.00, and no utilities medical and food handled. What she worked for would or should be able to handle all else.....from gas to movies etc. And this is what I believe may be called socialism or communism. So is Welfare, FSP and Medical called socialism.....the US instutited a multi-dimensional government.....we are no longer what they call a capitalistic government......where have you been that you do not recognize these programs as socialism? Civics, Political Science 101, student learn the difference between Socialism, Capitalism, and Communism......the US remains the only country with a multi-dimesional government coinciding together of Capitalism/Socialism. And anything given and not earned is Socialism....and everyone on SSI (Supplement Security Income) has not ever worked....therfore it was not earned....it is a disabled person never worked in the US but has been determined unable to work ever and therefore entitled to SSI max benefit of 674.00........ |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Socialism and communism are when the government gets to tell you what to do with your money.
We do not have socialism here. We have socialistic programs. That borrow from socialism a way of doing things |
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no offense,you can run left and you can run right,but the fact is
they are spending welfare money in a casino. period. and Thats bullcrap,as you like to say. nowhere do you see me saying that all welfare is wrong,but i do see a lot of local abusers. so,yes,i do have something to base my opinion on.thanks. also,the government Does tell you what to do with your money. you need car insurance,house insurance,life insurance,medical insurance,pay property taxes,school taxes and then theres the rest of the bills/food etc etc. by the time its over every payday,there aint much left. so spare me the bullcrap of defending welfare frauds...please...and thank you. |
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Edited by
willing2
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Civics, Political Science 101, student learn the difference between Socialism, Capitalism, and Communism......the US remains the only country with a multi-dimesional government coinciding together of Capitalism/Socialism. And anything given and not earned is Socialism....and everyone on SSI (Supplement Security Income) has not ever worked....therfore it was not earned....it is a disabled person never worked in the US but has been determined unable to work ever and therefore entitled to SSI max benefit of 674.00........ Very well explained. 
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makes no sense at all...period. defending them is absurd. its Welfare money drawn on a Welfare Account in a Gambling establishment. not a bank account,or a savings account. so your vacation theory is moot. and 2 pennies eyh? "quote" Casino withdrawals, which represented far less than 1% of total welfare spending during the eight months for which the department released data, averaged just over $227,392 a month. assume for a moment they are spending a 100 bucks apiece. we all know gamblers spend everything. so say what 400 a month? thats still 50,000 violaters per MONTH. but,as you imply,im Sure they are all on vacation..spending their 2 cents. Another almost bull crap post here too. One, it is not all welfare money. EBT cards can OAP, SSI, SSDI, Etc. Some of which are programs that people have worked to get so really nobodies damn business. Second, considering the population of California, that amount of money is squat for people spending 20 -100 dollars. If they can manage to save that amount of money to go to the casino, it isn't anybodies damn business. If they are addicted, then just like all addicts they need to ask for help and get help but we cannot deny them benefits because of a human affliction like addiction. Hatemongering rhetoric always paints the down trodden of this country with an ugly brush of anti humanism. Not a good thing to buy into. Supporting others and allowing them the everyone owes me syndrome is a good thing to propel? And isnt welfare FSP and Medical, Socialism? No socialism is when the government gets to tell you what to do with your money. There are people who are not on welfare who believe everyone owes me. That is a human issue that has nothing to do with welfare. The slogs who like to preach against welfare which include a bunch of racists like to portray all welfare and help program recipients as lazy and not wanting to work. It just isn't true. It is a way of spreading prejudice without being obvious with it. Socialism - a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles Does not say they tell you how to use it or distribute the money given.......not true.....Welfare FSP and Medical is SOCIALISM period....go take some college political course and get back to me....our government does control our tax money and how and who it is distributed to |
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no offense,you can run left and you can run right,but the fact is they are spending welfare money in a casino. period. and Thats bullcrap,as you like to say. nowhere do you see me saying that all welfare is wrong,but i do see a lot of local abusers. so,yes,i do have something to base my opinion on.thanks. also,the government Does tell you what to do with your money. you need car insurance,house insurance,life insurance,medical insurance,pay property taxes,school taxes and then theres the rest of the bills/food etc etc. by the time its over every payday,there aint much left. so spare me the bullcrap of defending welfare frauds...please...and thank you. The amount of fraud in the welfare system is in the single digits and spending money at a casino doesn't equate to fraud at all. EBT cards hold all kinds of different monies some of which are benefits like SSDI which is something you work to get if you become disabled. So the amount of welfare recipients using their ebt card at the casinos is not shown. Also, the government doesn't tell you how to spend your money. You don't have to pay taxes or anything else you listed. |
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makes no sense at all...period. defending them is absurd. its Welfare money drawn on a Welfare Account in a Gambling establishment. not a bank account,or a savings account. so your vacation theory is moot. and 2 pennies eyh? "quote" Casino withdrawals, which represented far less than 1% of total welfare spending during the eight months for which the department released data, averaged just over $227,392 a month. assume for a moment they are spending a 100 bucks apiece. we all know gamblers spend everything. so say what 400 a month? thats still 50,000 violaters per MONTH. but,as you imply,im Sure they are all on vacation..spending their 2 cents. Another almost bull crap post here too. One, it is not all welfare money. EBT cards can OAP, SSI, SSDI, Etc. Some of which are programs that people have worked to get so really nobodies damn business. Second, considering the population of California, that amount of money is squat for people spending 20 -100 dollars. If they can manage to save that amount of money to go to the casino, it isn't anybodies damn business. If they are addicted, then just like all addicts they need to ask for help and get help but we cannot deny them benefits because of a human affliction like addiction. Hatemongering rhetoric always paints the down trodden of this country with an ugly brush of anti humanism. Not a good thing to buy into. Supporting others and allowing them the everyone owes me syndrome is a good thing to propel? And isnt welfare FSP and Medical, Socialism? No socialism is when the government gets to tell you what to do with your money. There are people who are not on welfare who believe everyone owes me. That is a human issue that has nothing to do with welfare. The slogs who like to preach against welfare which include a bunch of racists like to portray all welfare and help program recipients as lazy and not wanting to work. It just isn't true. It is a way of spreading prejudice without being obvious with it. Socialism - a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles Does not say they tell you how to use it or distribute the money given.......not true.....Welfare FSP and Medical is SOCIALISM period....go take some college political course and get back to me....our government does control our tax money and how and who it is distributed to You need to read up on socialism a bit more. Once the tax money is paid it isn't yours anymore. That is like saying you pay for insurance and own the insurance company. |
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Marxist theory on Socialism or Marx definition of Socialism -
in Marxist theory, the stage after the proletarian revolution when a society is changing from capitalism to communism |
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Hey don't try to school me and I won't do the same since it seems to be a difficulty.
We are not socialist here. We do have socialistic programs but we are not socialist. |
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makes no sense at all...period. defending them is absurd. its Welfare money drawn on a Welfare Account in a Gambling establishment. not a bank account,or a savings account. so your vacation theory is moot. and 2 pennies eyh? "quote" Casino withdrawals, which represented far less than 1% of total welfare spending during the eight months for which the department released data, averaged just over $227,392 a month. assume for a moment they are spending a 100 bucks apiece. we all know gamblers spend everything. so say what 400 a month? thats still 50,000 violaters per MONTH. but,as you imply,im Sure they are all on vacation..spending their 2 cents. Another almost bull crap post here too. One, it is not all welfare money. EBT cards can OAP, SSI, SSDI, Etc. Some of which are programs that people have worked to get so really nobodies damn business. Second, considering the population of California, that amount of money is squat for people spending 20 -100 dollars. If they can manage to save that amount of money to go to the casino, it isn't anybodies damn business. If they are addicted, then just like all addicts they need to ask for help and get help but we cannot deny them benefits because of a human affliction like addiction. Hatemongering rhetoric always paints the down trodden of this country with an ugly brush of anti humanism. Not a good thing to buy into. Supporting others and allowing them the everyone owes me syndrome is a good thing to propel? And isnt welfare FSP and Medical, Socialism? No socialism is when the government gets to tell you what to do with your money. There are people who are not on welfare who believe everyone owes me. That is a human issue that has nothing to do with welfare. The slogs who like to preach against welfare which include a bunch of racists like to portray all welfare and help program recipients as lazy and not wanting to work. It just isn't true. It is a way of spreading prejudice without being obvious with it. Socialism - a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles Does not say they tell you how to use it or distribute the money given.......not true.....Welfare FSP and Medical is SOCIALISM period....go take some college political course and get back to me....our government does control our tax money and how and who it is distributed to You need to read up on socialism a bit more. Once the tax money is paid it isn't yours anymore. That is like saying you pay for insurance and own the insurance company. Actually distributing monies for Welfare FSP and Medical is Socialism.....period taught in civics and political science in college and high schools all across the United States, seriously take one....take POL 101 and see what it is about....never trust the net to much conjecture and opinion added in.......Check it out the US is not a captialistic country it is a Capitalistic/Socialistic country now because of these programs instituted....... |
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makes no sense at all...period. defending them is absurd. its Welfare money drawn on a Welfare Account in a Gambling establishment. not a bank account,or a savings account. so your vacation theory is moot. and 2 pennies eyh? "quote" Casino withdrawals, which represented far less than 1% of total welfare spending during the eight months for which the department released data, averaged just over $227,392 a month. assume for a moment they are spending a 100 bucks apiece. we all know gamblers spend everything. so say what 400 a month? thats still 50,000 violaters per MONTH. but,as you imply,im Sure they are all on vacation..spending their 2 cents. Another almost bull crap post here too. One, it is not all welfare money. EBT cards can OAP, SSI, SSDI, Etc. Some of which are programs that people have worked to get so really nobodies damn business. Second, considering the population of California, that amount of money is squat for people spending 20 -100 dollars. If they can manage to save that amount of money to go to the casino, it isn't anybodies damn business. If they are addicted, then just like all addicts they need to ask for help and get help but we cannot deny them benefits because of a human affliction like addiction. Hatemongering rhetoric always paints the down trodden of this country with an ugly brush of anti humanism. Not a good thing to buy into. Supporting others and allowing them the everyone owes me syndrome is a good thing to propel? And isnt welfare FSP and Medical, Socialism? No socialism is when the government gets to tell you what to do with your money. There are people who are not on welfare who believe everyone owes me. That is a human issue that has nothing to do with welfare. The slogs who like to preach against welfare which include a bunch of racists like to portray all welfare and help program recipients as lazy and not wanting to work. It just isn't true. It is a way of spreading prejudice without being obvious with it. Socialism - a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles Does not say they tell you how to use it or distribute the money given.......not true.....Welfare FSP and Medical is SOCIALISM period....go take some college political course and get back to me....our government does control our tax money and how and who it is distributed to You need to read up on socialism a bit more. Once the tax money is paid it isn't yours anymore. That is like saying you pay for insurance and own the insurance company. Actually distributing monies for Welfare FSP and Medical is Socialism.....period taught in civics and political science in college and high schools all across the United States, seriously take one....take POL 101 and see what it is about....never trust the net to much conjecture and opinion added in.......Check it out the US is not a captialistic country it is a Capitalistic/Socialistic country now because of these programs instituted....... Again the programs are socialistic in nature, yes, they are not socialism. Socialism is a different horse. If you have to check it out, do so but we are not a socialist country. |
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Socialism - a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles Does not say they tell you how to use it or distribute the money given.......not true.....Welfare FSP and Medical is SOCIALISM period....go take some college political course and get back to me....our government does control our tax money and how and who it is distributed to The IRS is quick to run ya' down if the error is in their favor and slow to admit their error. |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Hey don't try to school me and I won't do the same since it seems to be a difficulty. We are not socialist here. We do have socialistic programs but we are not socialist. Socialist governments own many of the larger industries and provide education, health and welfare services while allowing citizens some economic choices |
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So you now see what I was talking about.
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