Published: 6/20/07, 12:25 PM EDT

EAST STROUDSBURG, Pa. (AP) - Federal agents arrested 81 illegal
immigrants during a raid at a manufacturing plant in the Poconos.

All the workers arrested Tuesday at Iridium Industries Inc.'s Artube
division have been placed in removal proceedings for eventual
deportation, said Ernestine Fobbs, a spokeswoman with U.S. Immigration
and Customs Enforcement.

She declined to say what led to the raid. The company makes plastic
tubes for lotions and other consumer products, according to its Web
site.

The arrested immigrants are from Mexico, Indonesia, Malaysia and Ecuador
and were taken to detention centers for processing, Fobbs said.

Federal agents have carried out several similar raids in recent months
as part of a national effort to crack down on illegal hiring.

Last week, federal agents raided a food processing plant in Oregon and
detained more than 165 workers on immigration, illegal document and
identity theft charges. In December, more than 1,200 immigrant workers
were arrested at Swift & Co. meatpacking plants in six states.

If that had happened here in AZ not only would the illegals be going
away but the owners and executives would be going jail as well and
unlike the illegals that would just be exported the executives would go
to prison for employing the illegals

I don't know what you are all complaining about.

Malta has a population of about 400.000

And 1800 immigrants arrive every year with nowhere to go after, they
just stay there.

Invisible I sounds like you shopuld be complaining too.

Shouldn't we all??????

I'm in Ireland and it's as bad as anywhere else.

But nobody is shouting as loud as the US.

well they got to come from somewhere

are they complaining because they are losing people to


hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm

We mostly get people from Africa, and most of them from countries that
are considered save. So go, figure.

hhhmmmmmmmmmmmm

grass is always green on the other side of the border i guess

I wouldn't mind if they came from countries where they are really in
danger, but they come here, get everything they want until they are
considered not eligible for refugee status and people that have worked
all their lives have to beg for everything twice.

i know that feeling

Don't take me wrong. A lot of them are in real danger at home, but some
only come to milk the system, and it's those ones that annoy me. They
wouldn't work because they get things anyway. Others want to work, they
pay their taxes and whether illegal or not, they do their bit.

Look, here is the bit about Malta

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18982936/

Andrea,
That is nowhere close to what we are expieriencing, and Malta is a long
ways from Ireland!
First, I just read that article and it says that if the refugees are
deemed to have come from a safe country they are immeadiately deported!
Second, The ones allowed to stay are basicaly prisoners, and not allowed
to leave the Island, because the European Union doesnt want them!

The immigrants that come to the US with refugee status like those in
Malta are safe and protected when they get here. We do get those here
you know, we offer political asylum to anyone in the world that can
prove it, if they just go to one of our Embassies. They dont even have
to get in a boat!
The illegals that come here from S. America are not in any real danger
in their own countries. They come here at the rate of aproximately 1
million a year. The real number is unknown, because they never register,
and most are not interested in becoming citizens. They are only
interested in making in more in one day than they can make in a week in
their home country.

* Most of that money is sent home

* Most dont pay taxes

* Some steal other people's identies, for various
reasons, like to obtain drivers licenses, vote, get
credit, and one in particular- to become a cop!

And yet they cost us American Tax payers billions of dollars in
services, and lost wages.
As you can see above they do not just take jobs Americans dont want. If
the Authorities would go to construction sites those numbers arrested
would easily increase by astronomical percentages. All this happens at
the same time that American Manufacturing Companies are closing down and
moving their operations to the very countries that these Illegal
Immigrants come from.
When you hear the number 12 million, you must remember this number is an
estimate. Some have estimated the number at over 24 million. Their
really is noway to tell, because they are Illegal. The best they can do
is guess based upon enrollments of school children, and people seeking
aid through the Department of Social services and health departments.
You wonder why you hear so much about it? WOW!
The problem is huge, and we have a free press, not to mention, there
isn't a newspaper in the world where America's current affairs are not
publicized! Most of the European Countries are the same size as one of
our 50 states, and China is roughly the same size as the US. Russia is
larger, but with less people. The influence we have around the world in
mind, culture, and economy is second to none, so you hear it if we fart
too loud. That is why it seems we are the loudest!!!
I have been to Europe, I spent 2 and 1/2 years over there. Our reactions
to the Illegal Immigrant problem is nowhere as violent or controversial
as the problems I saw in Germany concerning the Illegal Turkish
Immigrants. Believe me, in that regard we are a lot more humane and
civil.

*

Yup.

short and sweet!!!

That's all I needed to say. I agree with Anrea's post and I enjoy
hearing the perspectives from those across the pond. I would like to
hear from Alex and Lee on this as well. Hey Glen! How are you today?
Crabby old fart!

LMAO, Im still trying to figure out what Malta has to do with Ireland.
Other than it has been protected by England forever, its not even close
to Ireland or England. Its about as close to N Africa, or closer than
Cuba is to Florida, Strategically located in the Med. Sea!! Im sure she
will tell me though when she wakes up!!!!

Since most people dont realize it let me help:

At the beginning of his class, Herr Michna makes it clear that it was a
big mistake on Germany’s part to bring so many guestworkers
(Gastarbeiter) from Turkey, and the question now is how to best fix the
mistake. Michna begins by showing his students pictures of radical Islam
from the front pages of several popular German magazines and newspapers.
He mentions September 11th and the recent death of Theo Van Gogh. The
problem of immigrants as Herr Michna frames it is existential in nature:
either integrate the immigrants in society or face death by radical
Islam.

Starting in the 1950s, to feed the post World War II economic miracle,
Germany signed bilateral agreements with poorer Mediterranean countries
to import guestworkers to fill vacant positions in the booming
industrial economy. The first guestworkers came from southern European
countries, mainly Italy, Croatia, Spain, and Greece. As these sources of
labor dried up, the German authorities moved further afield. In the
1960s and 70s millions of Turks came to work in Germany. This Turkish
population soon overtook all of the other guestworker populations and
today 2,375,000 people of Turkish origin live in Germany and comprise
approximately thirty percent of all those of foreign descent.

At the outset the Germans expected the Turks to leave and the Turks
expected to return to Turkey. However, the political situation in Turkey
was unstable and many Turks soon built a life for themselves in Germany
and no longer expected to go home; children went to school and families
bought property. The longer the guestworkers stayed in Germany, the more
the guestworkers were treated as foreigners in their native Turkey.
Furthermore, a complicated set of international agreements later backed
up by the German courts decided that the Turks had a right to stay in
Germany and could not be deported unless they had committed serious
crimes. Until recently, however, Turkish immigrants and their
German-born offspring could not acquire German citizenship.

As the German economic miracle ground to a halt in the 1980s, industrial
jobs dried up and the famed German social state moved closer to the edge
of bankruptcy. The Turkish population as well as other guestworker
communities, not possessing the educational or linguistic skills to
enter the modern economy, began to suffer extraordinarily high rates of
unemployment and draw heavily on the German welfare state. Currently,
the foreigner unemployment rate stands at approximately 21%, more than
double the already high national average. The guestworkers' reliance on
the welfare state has undoubtedly increased German antipathy toward its
Turkish population, who are seen in the eyes of the German as the
"typical foreigner," and has strengthened the German viewpoint that the
Turks are moving away from integrating into German society, renouncing
the trappings of Western life in order to create what the Germans term
Parallelgesellschaft, or parallel society. Germans continually say that
the problem in Germany is that you see third and fourth generation
immigrants of Turkish descent still speaking Turkish on the street,
something you only see in the most sealed off of American communities
such as the ultra-orthodox Jews and the Amish.

See, we are not nearly as bad. You just hear it more. When I was in
Germany, they would have mobs of germans going around the streets and
beating the turks up, and other worse things!!!

I would hate to see things get as bad here as there..
Germany is not the only country in Europe which expieriences immigration
problems. I could give more examples, if you wish, but I would rather
not.
You just hear more about it because America is America!!