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Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Mon 04/19/10 07:43 PM
detaching from the outcome unconsciously... humm, I'm not sure how to do that. My biggest challenge has been detachment and it is VERY conscious, still attainable with practice. Now stuff just happens without much effort or thought..but I'm very aware I am letting go.

iam4u Joined Fri 10/13/06 Posts: 30096	Mon 04/19/10 07:47 PM
Well... I've seen people dissociate as a way of detachment... which is usually just a poor defense mechanism. I think what you mean is drawing from life more objectively and recognizing life outside of yourself. At the same time - in the early stages - without the right guidance it's hard to distinguish backing away from consciously withdrawing. Ya know what I mean? NO... IM STILL STUCK IN THIS DAMN ROOM YOU BROUGHT ME INTO,, WITH EVERYONE STARING AT ME AND ME ONLY BEING BOTHERED BY ALL OF THEM TELL THEM TO STOP-IT PLEASE,,PLEASE TELL THEM PLEASE!!!!! THE MOMENT! In which we all have felt our own be-littling in the presents of others,,,LOST and CONFUSED and NO-WAY OUT fast enough to FEEL peace.. THATS the Moment!!!!

Atlantis75 Joined Wed 12/03/08 Posts: 8581	Mon 04/19/10 07:47 PM
At the same time - in the early stages - without the right guidance it's hard to distinguish backing away from consciously withdrawing. and what would be the "right guidance"?

Ruth34611 Joined Sat 08/02/08 Posts: 32401	Mon 04/19/10 07:49 PM
Yes! Excellent points. And, I do definitely agree. However, when I speak of detachment I am talking about more of a conquering of the ego. In addition, it's a total acceptance of the current situation emotionally without giving into it physically. Meaning, I do what I have to do to change something if it's not working for me, but I am okay where I am at the same time. Not sure if that makes sense. But, that's how I view it.

Tribbles Joined Tue 11/17/09 Posts: 7349	Mon 04/19/10 07:49 PM
Psychobabble? Oh No!!!

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Mon 04/19/10 07:49 PM
It makes sense

Tessa02 Joined Tue 02/16/10 Posts: 2519	Mon 04/19/10 07:51 PM
If it weren't for the voices in my head then I'd have nobody to talk too!!

plastic_pancakes Joined Sun 10/18/09 Posts: 7399	Mon 04/19/10 07:52 PM
Voices in your head are like thermometers: they're only as important as what you do with the reading.

Ruth34611 Joined Sat 08/02/08 Posts: 32401	Mon 04/19/10 07:53 PM
My biggest challenge has been detachment Mine too. I think it is for everyone really. It's an ongoing process that takes lots of practice. I fail daily.

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Mon 04/19/10 07:55 PM
I know some who are very good at it..they have become my teachers. I'm down to a weekly epic fail

plastic_pancakes Joined Sun 10/18/09 Posts: 7399	Mon 04/19/10 07:55 PM
Perfection isn't progress. It is delusion. To me.

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Mon 04/19/10 07:57 PM
were already whole and perfect now....just what we've been taught that makes us think were not. Society standards...f* CK that! Were all right where were supposed to be.

Ruth34611 Joined Sat 08/02/08 Posts: 32401	Mon 04/19/10 07:58 PM
I know some who are very good at it..they have become my teachers. I'm down to a weekly epic fail You're lucky to have teachers. And, once a week? That's impressive. Keep up the good work.

plastic_pancakes Joined Sun 10/18/09 Posts: 7399	Mon 04/19/10 07:59 PM
I don't think I've been totally honest with anyone, ever. I tried before with a person and failed. But, I refuse to accept a compromise.

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Mon 04/19/10 08:08 PM
I know some who are very good at it..they have become my teachers. I'm down to a weekly epic fail You're lucky to have teachers. And, once a week? That's impressive. Keep up the good work. Yeah, I did get lucky to work with a group of Shaman, they traveled to and studied with the Shaman in Peru..in the jungle, drinking the jungle vine. The healing of the "luminous energy field" helps. I've been having healing sessions for several years with them and also now doing energy healing's for others. It's amazing what can be done through some good ole healing. It's a beautiful thing..

Atlantis75 Joined Wed 12/03/08 Posts: 8581	Mon 04/19/10 08:09 PM Edited by Atlantis75 on Mon 04/19/10 08:10 PM
Perfection isn't progress. It is delusion. To me. It depends of what is perfection. To me, nothing is perfect if it has no faults. But then, faultiness is another's perfection. Much like a terrorist to you is another man's freedom fighter. A completely wrong by one is someone else near perfection.

plastic_pancakes Joined Sun 10/18/09 Posts: 7399	Tue 04/20/10 01:35 AM
One time, in high school, I started a cult. Maybe I should run for public office.

EquusDancer Joined Sun 04/05/09 Posts: 6281	Tue 04/20/10 01:38 AM Edited by EquusDancer on Tue 04/20/10 01:49 AM
Plastic, are you thinking along the lines of Don Miguel Ruiz's The Four Agreements, and detaching control of the Ego?

plastic_pancakes Joined Sun 10/18/09 Posts: 7399	Tue 04/20/10 01:49 AM
rubs eyes Nope - I can't honestly say that I am. I was reading "Helter Skelter" and was jealous of how many girls liked Charlie Manson, so I started a cult. I wish it was less superficial. But out of it I'm going to look up what you were talking about. smile

EquusDancer Joined Sun 04/05/09 Posts: 6281	Tue 04/20/10 01:51 AM
Ahh, okay. Yeah, I'm amazed at those types of people too. Never did it for me.