Topic: What to you is a "non-believer"?
wonderman37's photo
Fri 06/15/07 04:00 PM
NO I JUST HAVE A FANTASTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS AND KNOWS WHAT HE
EXPECTS FROM ME AND THAT THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD

no photo
Fri 06/15/07 04:00 PM
Ooops... out of sync as usual. Cute said the same, more concisely.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Fri 06/15/07 04:02 PM
thanks massage.I have no problem with wonderman except he yells a
lot.laugh

no photo
Fri 06/15/07 04:13 PM
Oh, I thought his capslock key was stuck. Some of my keys get stuck,
once in a while. :wink:

Wonder, I hope you know that I'm not trying to argue with you!
I don't think Cute is either.

Wildone4lyfe's photo
Fri 06/15/07 04:20 PM
Soul Tears you sound more MUSLIM or JEWISH than anything. Sorry I don't
want to categorize you

Wildone4lyfe's photo
Fri 06/15/07 04:27 PM
Thank you everyone for responding

SammyJo27's photo
Fri 06/15/07 05:20 PM
My grandma didn't believe in anything she thought when you died your
done. I believe a man, Christ, lived once, but he wasn't resurected or
any of the other stories. It just seems unrealistic to me. I believe
in energy.

MicheleNC's photo
Fri 06/15/07 05:20 PM
Wild-You will find that folks here call people 'non-believers' people
that are not Christian or believers that Jesus was the messiah. Anyone
that disagrees or disputes this, is a 'non-believers.'

Yes, I am one of them. Most accept me anyway. Hugs to those who do!
You know who you are.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Fri 06/15/07 05:43 PM
a non believer?
someone who knows better but refuses change.. Miles

wonderman37's photo
Fri 06/15/07 07:54 PM
MASSAGETRADE no problem

SoulsTears's photo
Fri 06/15/07 07:59 PM
Not Jewish nor mUslim..I simply just AM..I need no labels

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 06/15/07 08:43 PM
Hey Miles could it also be someone who knows better and therefore can
not accept limiting doctrine.

From the High Seat a person can see the horizon but from the seat of
Glory one can see eternity to the limit of infinity.

Wildone4lyfe's photo
Fri 06/15/07 08:50 PM
Hey AB

"Hey Miles could it also be someone who knows better and therefore can
not accept limiting doctrine.

From the High Seat a person can see the horizon but from the seat of
Glory one can see eternity to the limit of infinity."

I was just curious on what were you talking about in the last statement?
I've seen your topic forums and I am curious on your stance. You appear
to be a Christian but not a Christian at the same time

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 06/15/07 09:03 PM
It is in the book that so many quote yet so few know.

Many seek the High Seats that they may appear learned yet in so seeking
they miss the Glory that is in all things.

I am not a Christian. I was raised in another faith. I never read the
Christian book till spider kept quoting it as though I was some kind of
evil thing.

When I did read it I found within it many truths. I also found within
it great lies woven around those truths.

Please bear with me and don't get bored by the way I talk.

I mean no one harm or offense.

Wildone4lyfe's photo
Fri 06/15/07 09:07 PM
You're perfectly fine AB.

How do you know everything in the book is lies? What advanced knowledge
do you have further than others?

From your other post, you said you believe in God but not a believer.
Wouldn't that make you a believer because you believe in God?

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 06/15/07 09:14 PM
I am not a beliver in Christanity.

For I have seen the path beyond Jesus.

Everything in that book is not lies. There is great truth within that
book.

Lies have been woven within and over that truth but the truth is still
there. When you follow a path the descerning one will allways keep a
watch on the back trail.

I started from where I saw the lies and dug a bit in history for the
back trail of that book. History shows without doubt that the book was
changed after the Advent of Jesus.

Wildone4lyfe's photo
Fri 06/15/07 09:23 PM
Can you give me some sources? Sounds interesting

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 06/15/07 09:32 PM
Apostles Creed.

Council of Nicea 325 AD.

2nd Council of Nicea 755 AD.

Council of Trent (convened 3 times 1545 to 1563 AD)

Pope Pious Doctring of Papal Infalibility. Doctrine of the Blessed
Virgin.

There are many more.

Before the first Nicean Council in 325 AD there were 140 (one hundren
forty) Original Manuscripts concerning the dispensation of Christ.
Where did they all go? Are they in the bible now? Some are sure to
have been saved somewhere after the Roman Emperor Constantine orderd
them destroyed. Men being what they are I am quite sure at least some
of them were well hidden.

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Sat 06/16/07 07:30 PM
When Christians speak of believers and non-believers, it simply means in
Christ. It's short hand, if you will. Early Christians were called
many names, "Believers" one of them. Secrecy was needed, because
Christians were killed first by Jews and later by Romans. For instance:
Saul of Tarsus dedicated his life to killing Christians. Christians
used the greek letter "X" and the ichthys as symbols and called each
other believers, so that they could meet without being murdered. The
name stuck. I have noticed that people take offense at this and it
confuses me. "In Christ" is always assumed at the end, so if you are a
non-Believer "in Christ", that means you don't believe that Jesus was
the Messiah. Pretty simple, it's not an insult and doesn't suggest that
you don't have beliefs and faiths of your own.

Ghostrecon's photo
Sat 06/16/07 07:50 PM
I don't believe in a God at all but. I am curious of those the do.
I try to study the belief mechanisms of such a devotion to an invisible
deity or notion of one.

The reasoning are very from someone who is so low that they can't help
but to call upon a deity for help to some just indoctrinated so. I have
had both and still I see that nothing to show me that if I was so low
that a God would help me or not.
In other words. some believe that struggles are God's way of
strengthening you. I see it as humans struggling as to learn from their
mistakes and growing from that weather it'
s God given or not.

I don't believe in a God not because I struggled though life and didn't
receive the things in life that i needed or wanted. But because I see no
evidence that humans and animals are any different. For instance. Is
there a heaven for animals? Why or why not?
They( Just as we) die any return back to dust.
The only thing that separates us from the animals is that we have more
brain cells in witch to utilize being creative and able to communicate
more complexly( Is that a word complexly?)LOL.

Ghost