Topic: I dont know what I am
cpl4life's photo
Wed 03/24/10 05:40 AM
My religion is jaded I guess, I mean this is how I see things, I think the bible is not at all true, but rather a guide on how certain people lived their lives, I think its all symbols and folklore. I believe there are two sides in the universe, positive and negative energies. And its up to you whether you choose to put off negative energy with your actions and words, or you can put off positive energy by doing as good as you can. I'm a big believer in carma, which is why I try to be as good of a person as I can, to try and better the world through my own actions. I mean who knows my beliefs might tie into how another religion feels, I was raised christian so thats the only religion I know quite a bit about. And I personally cant stand christianity, I think alot of people who practice it are hypocritical jerks that are all shallow minded and very judgemental of others. If you're going to follow a religion like that I know you're SUPPOSED to be NON-judgemenal of others and listen to people instead of ridicule them if their beliefs are different, I mean religious freedom does that sound familiar to anyone? Yeah, you know thats a reason why this country was even founded in the first place. So yeah, I feel there is something up there beyond the clouds, I'm just not sure what. Anyways, please tell me your take on my rant, thank you.

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Wed 03/24/10 07:29 AM
I agree with you. Although I try hard not to judge all Christians or all Muslims or all Mormons or all anything based on how some of them act.

May777's photo
Wed 03/24/10 08:32 AM
remember,.. religion is man made ,..it`s been used for centuries to control the masses,..for power & greed

there is nothing spiritual in religion,..

keep asking questions, with an open heart,..and the universe will be more than happy to answer them bigsmile


cpl4life's photo
Wed 03/24/10 10:09 AM
I try to keep an open mind to all things really, its just some religions just make me so bitter towards them, and I guess it really is because in every religion or organization for that matter there are always those two faced people. So I guess what I would call myself is just agnostic I guess because I really have no substantial belief on what is beyond the clouds, but I do believe there is something out there watching over us all, just not neccesarily the stereotypical loving God that alot of people believe it is. I mean who's to say the Egyptians didnt have something with their polytheistic beliefs, the Greeks and Romans too for that matter. Maybe there's an infinite amount of Gods for all of the planets in the universe, or there's just one that oversees this vast universe of ours. Hopefully I'm not off my original topic by now lol. Oh well, thats my twisted beliefs on things anyway. And thanks too for the replies.

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Wed 03/24/10 10:53 AM
I think that definitely puts you in the agnostic category. Nothing wrong with that. Learning is a never ending process. flowerforyou

May777's photo
Wed 03/24/10 02:10 PM
not at all,..I think more and more people believe in an energy or light,.. being the God Force of the planet / universe,..

where as our ancestors believed that this energy had to take on human characteristics to be believable,..




EquusDancer's photo
Wed 03/24/10 09:49 PM
I was raised as an atheist, and became Pagan/Shamanic practitioner 16 years ago. I did then, and still do study and learn about the various beliefs and there's nothing wrong with it.

The majority of people live 70+ years. Why tie yourself to only one thing, especially without looking into others? There's nothing wrong with it at all.

davidben1's photo
Thu 03/25/10 10:01 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Thu 03/25/10 10:21 AM
the most opposite of "positive" energy flowing thru oneself, is to pick any certain label to describe one self, or trying to use any certain attribute to describe oneself, such as kind, or smart, or dumb, or intelligent......each is what itself "feel" each second, the brain simply narrating to self "all" of itself, each "moment" and second, with no regard to what humans define as positive or negative?

freedom of self is to allow one self to be defined by "other's", and not by one self?

when one know it is what any other say itself is, then it prosper, but when anything resist and defend what other's say itself is, it has no other choice but to decline toward self unhappiness, and all self discontent, as all the thought process of the brain is put to use to defend what self does NOT "want" to be viewed as?

there is no greater loss of emmotional content, and self peace, than to try to prove to self it is NOT, the "so called negative", other human eye's see and speak of self?

the brain hear three perspective's of data, who itself is at "any second", what other's NEED TO HEAR, NOT a constant of "who they are", and what the self and any other together create when interacting?

there is no way to sort out the "differences", or what is what, if self still be trying to "define itself", into some "mortal" idea of what is good or bad?

humans resist most admitting to self any negative the brain say about itself, so enlightenment most be accepting as true any negative the brain make the body feel about itself, removing the focus for a short while........"off"..........of other's, and then self allow the immortal energy, or "never ending energy", of the cosmos to flow ***thru*** itself, as any denial of what self be, simply impeede the "cosmic energy", of freedom and self peace and "self expansion", such not able to penetrate "thru" the brain, if it still wish to think or define self as a "good", or something solid, or constant, self only trying to keep self in a constant state of what itself "deem" as most good, not allowing self to be fluid, and morph with the cosmos as it morph around one self...

as if self is to be dumb one second, and smart the next, as kind one second, and mean the next, as intelligent one second and ignorant the next, as loving one second, and not loving the next, and the self can throw off the shackles of self tyranny, that "mortal's" demand and try to imprison other's with...

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Thu 03/25/10 10:28 AM
Your beliefs are not twisted at all. Your mind is where it needs to be. Have fun living the life to its highest heights enjoying the things that give you the most joy and..........................


don't forget to laugh and smile more often. laugh


MiVidaLoca's photo
Thu 03/25/10 11:37 AM

remember,.. religion is man made ,..it`s been used for centuries to control the masses,..for power & greed

there is nothing spiritual in religion,..

keep asking questions, with an open heart,..and the universe will be more than happy to answer them bigsmile




Couldn't have said it better myself.......so I won't even try :thumbsup:



cpl4life's photo
Sun 03/28/10 05:00 AM
Hey thanks for the input y'all, I really appreciate the different perspectives you all were able to give me. I guess simply put, religion is up to you, and it is man made, made by us, and also to be questioned by us. I believe we all have our own lives to live, but faith in something, regardless of what it is, that is important, I think its what keeps us going. Maybe it is a God, or spouse, parent, maybe its your kid that keeps you going.

I have faith that there is something out there, beyond the clouds that does watch over us, but they have a cruel sense of humor; because there is cancer that kills children mercilessly, there are roofs of churches that do collapse and kill many innocent people.

And yet, this same entity makes sure I get what I need, so I don't understand this being, and I don't think any mortal ever will, that's why their a God, and we are not. I guess there is another way though to look at the scenarios I just gave, usually when those horrific events occur, it causes us all to band together for that common cause, to help soothe that child in terrible pain, to help the grieving survivors of a horrible catastrophe, so I guess there really is a yen for every yan (I think I spelled those right, lol) or whatever you want to say. I think there is a certain amount of Carma there regardless. I don't post this to change anyone's outlook on the cosmos, or fate, or whatever you want to call it, I wanted to say again thank you for your input, and good luck on all of y'alls searches for whatever it is you seek.

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Sun 03/28/10 07:58 AM
Adversity is necessary for humans to evolve. Without disaster, pain and disease we would never grow and never advance. Think of a child who has always been given what they wanted and never suffered through any hardship. What do they turn into?

Some of the best people are the people that have suffered the most in this lifetime. Adversity brings out the best and worst in people. The goal is to use it to bring out the best in yourself rather than let it bring out the worst.

May777's photo
Mon 03/29/10 07:54 AM
I believe we have to start thinking that this God,..He,..She,.It,..( whatever ) has no human word to describe ) gives a hoog - a - boo about what were doing down here,..

I believe God`s light / energy is like just like the sun,..man can direct it`s energy to any source it wants,.it can light a hospital & a whore house at the same time,..it makes no difference to the light,..

we have to stop thinkin that this Light is at fault for all the disasters that fall upon us,..WE create our own reality,...it`s what WE do,.. that effects the world,...ie,.. putting harmful chemicals in our food,.. building in earthquake zones,..our very own governments sending sons & daughters to a war for their own greed under the disguise of impending disaster,..

WE bring down the disasters,..but WE can also bring healing,..if we choose,..our choice,..our consequenses,.. not God`s


heavenlyboy34's photo
Mon 03/29/10 07:00 PM
OP-you sound rather like a deist to me. JMHO. drinker Peace unto you.