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Topic: help please
LadyLovely1105's photo
Wed 04/07/10 09:44 AM
oh please....how we're able to raise our children HAS changed....huh somewhere along the way...our kid's got the RIGHT to disown their parents and the RIGHT to scream child abuse
whenever they got punished...surprised

I'm sure the ones who are truly abused get overlooked due to the missuse of this "right"!!frown grumble

I WILL spank my daughter when she needs to be spanked and I will coddle her when she needs to be coddled...just so happens, along they way, I'm just a tad bit smarter than her in using other ways to punish her behavior!bigsmile bigsmile

that BIG paddle still sits in the same spot though...at only an arms length...and she is SOOOOOOO aware of it!flowerforyou

bedlum1's photo
Wed 04/07/10 10:10 AM
:thumbsup: smokin

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Sat 04/10/10 02:33 AM
Hi there.. Suzie.
Sorry i'm guessing your name, I like to use names when i'm talking to new people.

Do you know that bears can smell women's mentruel cycle?! TRUE FACT
I use nappisan :D

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Sat 04/10/10 09:15 AM



coddeling the kids too much is what is wrong with the kids today...plain and simple if i talked back or yelled at my mom i would have been smacked in the mouth and sent to my room...and she was in her right...taught me to show some respect...kids are more resillient than these premadona child counselors want to believe..it the people tellin the kids constantly that somethings wrong that should be punished
they are just like we were ...just raised different....the world hasnt changed....we have...


We are the world...
then we need to get back to basicsflowerforyou


Like smacking kids in the mouth...indifferent
if its really needed and all else fails.....YES...
we agree on a lot of stuff lady but everyone doesnt agree on everything...i respect your opine and your stand ...
this is one thing we just dont agree on..
i still luvs ya thoughflowerforyou
I would attack a man or a woman if THEY smacked their child in their face,,,,,,and then call the police to come and look into that parents life a little...
YES,,,PEOPLE=PARENTS,,have given away their controls on their kids,,GREATLY,,,but to say or think that its SOLELY because THEY ARE NOT BEATING THEIR KIDS NOW,,IS INSANE!
PUNISHMENTS,,,ARE NOT BEING INFORCED!,,THAT SIMPLE,,,
NO CONTENUED OVER-SIGHT TO THEM FOLLOWING IT,,or even GIVEN ""ANY""
because many parents "THINK",,to much about THEIR ISSUE AT HAND,,"OVER" their childs WELL BEING..or FUTURES...
MANY parents are NOW USERS of MANY different SUBSTANCES THEM SELVES,,so their children,,just learn the streets and THAT LIFE.
PLUS,,with somany NOT KNOWING where their NEXT MEAL might be coming from,,ANYTHING the kids DO,,,are over-looked as THAT worry feels their parents minds, full-time.
I was beaten as a child,,IT SUCKS!
and to say whoop their azz is COOL,,,thats OPEN for DISCUSSIONS TO.
Because like TEACHERS,,who use to paddle their students,,
SOME TEACHERS WERE FREAKING NUTS and half KILLED students,,so we had to HALT THAT,,,AGAIN,,,NO OVER-SEEING THAT TEACHERS ABILITIES TO HANDLE A PADDLE ON A CHILDS BUTT..
My Kids grew,,getting a spanking if they done wrong..
And NEVER,,,,,,NEVER,did they recieve a violent ANYTHING,,to any other areas of their bodies...THAT BREEDS ANGER AND SHAME TO GROW WITH,,,and MY SPANKINGS were all limited to three at the most swats to their butts,,,and ALL OF THAT,,was more to show them, they made that happen,,by allowing themselves to DO THEIR WRONG.
IT WAS NOT USED TO HURT THEIR BUTTS,,just their prides and their attatudes to THINKING they would get by with breaking rules or doing something THEY KNEW,,they were not suppose to do.
GROUNDINGS and RESTRICTING THEM FROM THINGS THEY LIKE TO HAVE WORKS AS AN EQUIL OR BETTER AS FOR THAT CHILD TO LEARN FROM IT.
BUT ONLY IF THE PARENT STAYS ON TOP OF THEIR RESRICTIONS GIVEN..
JUST MY OPINIONS,,,sorry caps locked,,lol

Shasta1's photo
Sat 04/10/10 04:20 PM
Yes, children are children. A little more educated than we awere at their age, but emotionally...still the same as they ever were- still needing guidance and discipline. Just because they are now being dressed as little adults...make up, jewlery etc does not mean they are. Parents wanting to be friends or not realizing they are children still is a big problem these days. We were not 'hit' per say but knew dam well if we did something wrong or were defiant. a spanking was coming, with a paddle. Not a murderous one but with it came additional...go think about it. Later all was forgiven and forgotten. People are sooo busy trying top survivew these days, they are afraid to say no to their children because their children will be upset with them??? Tell her to grow up and raise a concious child, or the child will not be able to survive in a world that has consequences for actions, negative and positive.flowerforyou

Tromette's photo
Sat 04/10/10 04:47 PM
I've worked with a lot of children in the past. Your friend's child behaves this way, because she lets her. Period.

Surely things have been more difficult following the divorce or separation. That sort of thing can be really hard on kids. BUT the majority of kids that I worked with who behaved like disrespectful monsters, have been in this similar situation of parents recently separated. These same kids obeyed and respected me for a year and a half while they still treated the parents same horrible way.

From an outsiders stand point, it's because of the parent's guilt of the divorce. Both parents want to be the kid's favorite/feel guilty about "doing this to their kids", etc. They let them get away with murder as not to disrupt their lives even more. I cannot stress how important it is to stick to your guns when dishing out any sort of punishment, else the kids will never take you seriously.

Don't let the guilt get to you. I think you'd feel more guilty in 20 years having your child be totally messed up because they were raised in an unhappy home. Kids aren't completely stupid. If you explain this to them (as often as necessary) it will sink in. Also, kids these days aren't alone with their peers if they have divorced parents. It's likely these days that 50% of their classmates also have divorced folks.

And for those of you who suggest physical punishment, good luck with that. Teach them early how to smack up their own kids or be bullies at school.


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Sat 04/10/10 08:44 PM
Edited by buttons on Sat 04/10/10 08:46 PM
i wonder if daughter feels like she needs attention? perhaps too much attention was spent on the divorce? sometimes its best to not try punishment.. but wait till the behaviors arent there whilst she is being good.. and say hey we havent had much time lately to have fun together, how about doing something next sat? what would you like to do daughter?

and i dont mean say a word about the divorce to her... just time together as mom and daughter. for im sure this is the last thing the daughter may want to hear about...

Donnar's photo
Sun 04/11/10 09:14 PM
This child is in first grade? Is that what you are saying? That is a lot different than if she were a teen.
A first grader is 6 yrs old and should still be fearful of their parents. This got out of control way early. I would still take privileges and dinner away and then send her to her room so I wouldn't be hearing her whining.

silverlight's photo
Mon 04/12/10 05:06 PM
Hello there ...There are 2 parents here and 1 child Mum and Dad needs to sit down and let their child know what's going on and how it affects her- then make sure she knows the rules...Bitter divorces create bitter children. Da dum SOLVED lol

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