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But to have them set up in order to have a camera on them to spy on the person using the Laptop is way over board They didn't add the camera(s). They were already part of the laptops. If those laptops are stolen they need a way to get pictures of the people who stole them so the police can track them down. Many phones now have software for this same anti-theft feature. Any feature designed for good can also be used for wrong doing. That's not the features fault. http://www.gadgettrak.com/products/pc/flickr/ |
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Edited by
massagetrade
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Sat 02/27/10 03:52 PM
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The government owns our land. When they decide they want it, it becomes a case of eminent domain.... This particularly affects me, ... if it goes the way they want, our place is condemned and taken. I'm sorry that you are in this position. I'm guessing this might be something that is often on your mind, and that this is why you bring it up now. I don't see how this relates directly to the topic. I also don't agree that the phrase 'the government owns your land' is the most accurate way to portray this situation. As of today, you have ownership rights to your property, and the government does not. For example, in some circumstances, police would still need warrants to enter your property tonight. You are really talking about the potential for your land to be seized, which is not done on a whim, but must follow a procedure. I'm also aware of the fact that corruption can play a role in these situations, and I wouldn't be surprised if greedy corporations and 'bought off' government officials undermine the 'proper procedure' which is supposed to occur. A driver's license, IMO, is not a right that every automatically gets or should get. It's a priviledge. You haven't specifically said whether you think it is okay for the government to install monitoring devices in our driver's licenses. Regarding guns, sorry, but that is what they are intended to do - kill people and animals....To deny that, is to deny the purpose and intent of that gun. All of your comments on guns, while interesting, are completely unrelated to the issues at hand (one of which is: what rights does a person have to use something simply because they own it; what restrictions are there). Suppose I go and buy a gun. Am I now legally allowed to kill anyone I wish with my gun? We've spiraled down into everyone is out for themselves, and screw each other. And it's hurting us, badly. The balance is messed up. I emphatically agree. So, both with an outlook for the many and the few, a hidden video camera in a public place is wrong, as well as a private place that is not your own personal domain. If you wanted to set up a camera in your own home, more power to you, and while some might find it creepy, they couldn't really say much about it. I think the situation is a bit more complicated than that. On all of these examples, there is a question of both 'what does the law say' and 'what ought the law say'. What do you think about the person who sets up a secret video camera in their bathroom and hosts a dinner party, filming her guests using the bathroom, then selling the footage to the makers of pornography? Isn't that 'wrong', in your eyes? Whether its 'in your own home, with your own camera' or not? Does her guests have a 'right' to privacy, even when they are in another persons house? If you wanted to set up a camera in your own home, more power to you, and while some might find it creepy, they couldn't really say much about it. But not in my home. Thank you for engaging me in this conversation, ED. You just stated that there was a limit in what I can do with my own property. I cannot use my property anyway I want while my property is in/on your property. Do I have this right? |
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The link you give discusses data on a company computer, and computers which are located at the workplace - which is therefore twice removed from the issue of spying on people in their homes. Did you also notice that it was 7 years old? Currently the law says that any property owned by a company, that said company has the right to know how their property is being used. If you don't like it then buy your OWN laptop  No I did not notice, and I'm not checking, but if I take your word for it, then: You directed my attention to a page which is not only twice removed from the issue at hand, it is also seven years out of date. Is this symptomatic of the thoroughness of your thought process here? |
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In case you couldn't figure it out for yourself the page showed that this issue has been going on for a long time, and has ALWAYS headed in the SAME direction, that being, whomever owns the equipment - owns the rights to it. Deal with it
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In case you couldn't figure it out for yourself the page showed that this issue has been going on for a long time, and has ALWAYS headed in the SAME direction, that being, whomever owns the equipment - owns the rights to it. Deal with it Which, of course, does not mean that you can do whatever you want with it, simply because you own it. |
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